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As far as I know P3D Academic and Professional are identical products except of course the license with LM Aero. It should not effect your installs of PMDG products as I believe it is just looking for the install directories and makes a determination that way. Many of the beta testers have either version or even developer and I have never heard of an issue of what P3D you have other than the true version number. (i.e. P3D v1 / v2 / v3) Also know that RSR has posted that if you have v3 and v2 on that the "to be released" installers will only install to v3 and not v2. Jhan PS - I am impressed with your ethics! A lot of people will buy the Academic version and are not truly students.

Hi Eric, All PMDG base package installers will install independent of each other. Meaning you can install them in any order, obviously the addon (e.g. NGX base goes on before the -6700 addon) need to go on after the base product. Now also realize the installers will install to FSX period. Not FSX Steam Edition nor P3D. As a beta during the first part of the year, this got exercised heavily as we were doing NGX and 777 back and forth all of the time.

All, I have been reading there are several people having issues with FSX/FSX:SE in full screen and menus not showing up. I am one of them and I am wondering if it has something to do with DX9. I know this issue is hitting NVidia users but I am actually running Intel HD4000 (No snide remarks please as it has been working flawlessly in Win7). When I put FSX into DX10 Preview Mode the menus appear again without issue. PMDG does not really recommend using DX10 PM so I am not sure what I am going to do. I like Win10 performance and I have not had any major issues other than the menus. I have to just remember to go into Window mode. But I hate having to remember. I also use P3D and it does not have any issues. I think yes we need to let video card mfg know but I am not an expert on DX9 but I feel it is a Microsoft issue. Jhan

Hi, Sorry I'm a bit new using P3D. I know P3D extracts the Airline Callsigns from the aircraft.cfg's. Because there was a shift in how things got names between FSX and P3D, I have a lot of duplicate callsigns. For example: AMERICAN and American, DELTA and Delta. I am using v2.5 and wondering where are these callsigns being stored so I can fix them. I have fixed the offending .cfg but the duplicate callsign still shows up. Thanks, Jhan Jensen

Don't quote me on this but many years ago, RSR of PMDG said out of respect for LD they will not compete. Meaning no PMDG 767/757. I have no idea if that agreement translates to P3D or XP. Very much doubt that as slow as they are. I respect that LD is a group of people that loving craft their aircraft. I miss those days when everyday it seemed someone had a new aircraft to download. But LD 767X was never much more than a FS9 port. It is hard for me to fly after some of the newer addons I have bought in the past two years.

I know this is a long list, hopefully we will get some of them with the -300ER/-200ER. Air China - Red Phoenix, Blue Phoenix Japan Airlines - 30th Anniversary of Tokyo Disneyland (Happiness Direct) Malaysia Airlines - Heliconia Singapore Airlines - 50th Anniversary and my latest absolute favorite 777 livery... Air New Zealand's All Blacks livery WOW! (I know its for the -300 but would be cool even on a Yugo!)

Also are you setting your flaps and speed into the FMC? For me that corrected a lot of my overspeeds. You can also set your speed on the MCP, click the middle and set the speed and it will override the FMC unless it has a hard set speed. Usually better once you are closer to landing. The tutorial has a good example of all of this.

There will be a lot more liveries for the -300ER/-200ER as there are more real world operators. Also I know the 777 Paintkit has been made available and it won't be long a lot of fictional liveries will show up here on AVSIM. But I agree I like PMDG's paintjobs and JAL and ANA would have been nice.

It was an issue that was reported on the FSX Beta in 2006! And for the SP1 Beta and the Acceleration Beta that followed. Aces kept saying yeah they would fix it and never did. I get the airplane without the skin, kind of cool but yeah it is a FSX flaw.

Forget my banner at the bottom for a moment. As a beta I don't get told anything that isn't public knowlege, I come here to AVSIM to find out like the rest of you. RSR has stated that they learned a hard leason from the MD-11, it was a plane they wanted to do but not one many people seen or board on as a passenger. They are focusing on those planes that we see each and everytime you go to the airport. With that said, here is my guess and speculation. 707 - maybe in the lite line but not even likely 717 - did not sell well, probably sell as well as the MD-11 727 - maybe in the lite line 737 - NGs done, MAX not for a long time as it hasn't enter service. Classics all but gone from commerical service 747 - v2 coming soon to a PC near you, hoping true 747-8!!! 757 - reaching end of service as a passenger aircraft, also PMDG has stated won't do unless Level-D does not release theirs 767 - nope, will not compete with Level-D unless Level-D goes away 777 - ah read the news lately, she is lovely! 787 - only -8 out, still have to get data for -9 and the probable -10 (personally wanting this one bad!) Airbus - no to A300, A310 as no longer in general passenger service A320 - Aerosoft has a nice one on this, theirs from what I know is nice and so why compete A330 - Aerosoft kind of owns the Aibus series for FSX, but maybe but longshot IMHO A340 - See A330, longshot A350 - not even launched, see Boeing 787 A380 - PMDG has done big before, I feel this is a good maybe Those are my on my very high possibily list CRJ - Nobody has done a high def CRJ and they are EVERYWHERE. No to the CS series Dash 8 - maybe a good one for X-Plane, has been rumored forever ERJ - Embraer is also everywhere, E-Jets and the RJs Probably not but possible still ATR-72 - Already a decent one out there These are on my no way in hell list as most are not even in service yet MRJ - Mitsubishi has pushed this until the next century I believe COMSEC 919 - getting data impossible RRJ Superjet- Sukhoi works with Boeing, but again hard to get data MS 21 - Another russian bird but has not sold outside of Russia, CS candidate probably Business Jets - Hahahahaha no! Well those are my gueses. I would not hold anyone too them including me as I predicted PMDG would release the PMDG Paper Airplane for Microsoft Flight... Guess I was wrong. :huh:

No need, FSX is nearly 7 years old, It only uses one CPU core, and actually does ok now with middle of the road equipment. Now of course if you want spend the $3000, but get a great GPU card and large monitors so you can drool on the awsome cockpit!

What would you say if it was 777GB? JUST KIDDING! I know the first time I downloaded it, much like how many you will feel soon. It did not matter the size, I just wanted it DOWNLOADED! I have not checked but there is a contest on the release date which I am sure someone with the name RSR will win. But wonder if anyone has a file size contest yet.

RSR said "best PMDG product ever". Hmmmm Absolutely! This is from a diehard 747 fanatic. She is an absolute joy to fly, if you respect her. She demands you understand her, she isn't like her little brother (NGX) or big sister (747X). Forgiving, yes but not if you make assumptions. In other words, read read read. She is long, can't imagine the -300ER yet. Her power plants are huge and take time to build thrust, or bleed off speed. Just remember the opening of one of her GE90s are about the same diameter of a 737's body! Some of the systems are not the same as other Boeing's, BETTER but there are some differences. Ok back to some final testing!

I vote for Forward Product Development.

Hey Rob, I am not sure I like the name WIDE next to Beta Team. Feels like it makes my butt look big. :Big Grin: Everyone else, one word... WOW! (It won't disappoint) Ok back to the trenches to find those left articulated polygons that should have been right perplexed polygons instead.

Hi All, Disclaimer first, I realize it is a bit nuts to put FSX onto a Mac. This is more of an experiment as I do have pretty much a dedicated FSX machine for beta testing and just enjoying flying. Recently I purchased a Mac mini (Late 2012 model), here is some of the specs 2.3GHz quad-core Intel Core i7 (Turbo Boost up to 3.3GHz) with 6MB L3 cache 1TB Hard Drive, going to probably change this out soon to a something bigger Intel HD Graphics 4000 4GB of 1600MHz DDR3 memory, memory bumping to 8GB or 16GB soon Windows 7 Ultimate x64 running on a 100GB Bootcamp partition Win7 is completely up to date with the latest and greatest patches and drivers FSX is installed in C:\FSX FSX is patched with SP2/Acceleration No scenery added PMDG MD-11/J41/747X w/-8 expansion/NGX installed and all patched to latest SP I am not pushing the resolution, I put this on an old 1280x1024 LCD monitor and that is the resolution. I have FSX set to 1280x1024x32 and locked to 20 fps. Where I am running this I am a bit limited on space and so I don't have a huge setup that my real FSX machine uses. Also I knew going into this that integrated GPU's are not all that good with FSX. Everything works great, sliders are all of the way to the right with Autogen scenery going etc etc. I do realize I probably have the aircraft cast shadows on self and need to remove that and bloom as those tend to cause crashes. Ok on to my issues. I recently was doing a long haul flight and about 400nm from my destination it crashed, screen went dark, and then a window came up and said FSX experienced a fatal issues and is restarting. I was flying with the PMDG 747 and as a beta tester on that aircraft I know how to solve any of the PMDG issues. It is also happening on the default 747. I can get a crash almost for certain if I am using time compression above 4x. Often times I will be in 1x and click the main menu bar and it will crash. I am not clicking the main menu bar so I am fairly certain it isn't the menu bug. Anyway wondering if there are any others out there that have gotten a stable FSX on a Mac or Mac mini. Any help would be great! Jhan

Thanks Jim. I will post in that forum. This was more of an experiment, this isn't my primary FSX machine. That one has a nice nVidia GPU card in it and no issues.

I have read a lot of other posts and realize I might be pushing the memory limits and so I will try and lower the sliders some and report back. Just curious if there are any other Apple Mac mini users out there that can releate.

Hi All, Ok before I get flammed, yes I know what I am doing is a little out there and realize this may never work all that great. Recently I purchased a Mac mini (i7, Intel 4000 HD GPU, 4GB RAM) and have since installed a Windows 7 partition via bootcamp. Windows 7 is x64 and is running native, not virtualized inside of OS X. FSX runs fantastic but has the ocassional CTD, especially if I am using something like a PMDG product. I have all of the sliders right, autogen on etc etc and it keeps pretty close to the locked frame rates. Pretty amazing little computer. I can almost guarantee a CTD if I speed up the sim rate, even at 4x! But will get them if I go into the main menu. All random and at random times. Right now this is fairly basic FSX install, only thing I have put on it is PMDG's MD-11, 747X, and NGX. However this issue seems to occur even with default aircraft. I was having a lot more CTD's until I upgraded the video drives through Windows Update. I know the PMDG side pretty well. I am more curious about issues around the Intel 4000 HD video chipset and if anyone has had any luck fixing those issues.

KSLC KHIF has a museum that has a one of a kind SR-71, beautiful mountains, fairly in-expensive food/lodging, lots and lots of Jell-O deserts. And for the adventurious law breakers, there is always Dugway Proving Grounds you could try to find the hidden UFO's.

Hrogers / Fabo, Boeing proposed it orginally as per an American Airlines request. Several of AA's hubs had tight gates (LAX,ORD, JFK, etc) but airports caught up and ultimately no one took Boeing up on the offer. Boeing even did a full sized mockup and I believe it was FAA certified, not 100% sure on that. However it was never placed on a full aircraft as all of the certifcation aircrafts went to airlines; unlike the 787 where the first four have been mothballed or placed into long term storage. boeing09876654321, I would love PMDG to do a 777X but Boeing themselves does not have a 100% designed aircraft. I would even love all of the 737 MAX, 787 -8/-9/-10's but Boeing does not have them fully designed (except 787-8). PMDG does more than just model how it looks, one of the things that makes PMDG special is that it behaves or "feels" like the real aircraft. I believe if you search Rob posts he has mentioned there are two beta teams, one that is made up of real world pilots and maintainers who help tweak the "feel" model. The other is advanced flight sim users who find FS bugs like a stray polygon. I think it is one of the reasons there products take a while, they are tweaked and tweaked to the point it is as real a 7x7 as possible using FSX. So as I mentioned, I would love all of those "paper airplanes", I want to know what a real 777 reacts like in a heavy crosswind and not what some programmer thinks it should do. Our only hope is they release a "semi-pro" like they did on the 748-8 and LCF. But probably unlikely. :(

There is something in the debate of popular vs sales that is being missed. Someone brought up the Concorde as one example. Yes there was less than 20 ever produced, but it is iconic! Being iconic or something people dreamed of flying on will make it popular. The 747 is iconic and has had 1600+ built so is has been flown on by a lot of people. We all have some plane that is a favorite because possibly of something from out past. Maybe we took a flight on one when we were young, or lived near an airport where they were common. Definately developers do planes that 1) they want to do 2) will make money so they continue to be able to do #1. The MD-11 was well recieved, I believe PC Pilot did a huge write up on it; can't remember if it was even a two part article. It did get a lot of attention and press, it was a jump up that PMDG followers know happens every time a new addon is released. For what ever reason, people did not buy it. But those who did shows they are passionate about it. I am on the side that while MD-11 is great, it isn't iconic to me and thus I tend to pick my 747 to fly instead. I will probably will start to fly the 777 the most when it finally releases. I too have a love of an airplane that does not seem to get all that much love, it sold well and there has been one or two addons created for it; but it has never been up to the PMDG level I am used to. So Rob if you need a "Classic", please do a 727 the right way!

Ryan CRANKY??? Nah, Never!!! The worst case I ever saw was the FS2000 Beta. Microsoft decided that it was going to be nothing more than an evaluation. By the time it was sent to us, it was already Gold Mastered. Meaning that no matter how big or small a bug we found, it was maybe going to go into SP1 not not the initial release. Not sure many of you remember FS2000, it ran like a dog on the best machines. Frame rates often in the single digits if you decided to use the Concorde. A LOT of CTD or even an occasional BSoD; more than FSX ever had or was claimed to have. Anyway the FS Beta group was very passionate about their simulator, huh imagine that. Anyway when the proverbial fecal matter hit the rotating cooling device, it got UGLY! Beta's quit, sent angry letters to [email protected], complained loudly on forums in violation of NDA's as it had not officially released and we had not been released from the NDA. The Program Manager made the mistake of trying to smooth it down, I think she left in tears. Even the programmers got involved in the discussions and backlash. Many left and I think Fly! and Fly!2K did well because of the push to make it the standard. Ultimately when it hit the market and flopped, stuttering frame rates didn't cut it even though 17,000 airports were added. They called us all into a chat, asked what went wrong. They got it, also I think some leadership changed. But they started on FS2K2 and brought back as many Beta's they could get to come back. Testing began in the Alpha stage in early 2001 and lasted until late August; at least 9 months of testing. They sent us gold master copies and then 9/11 happened. They delayed the launch because MS decided to remove the WTC towers. My copy of FS2K2 still has them. Anyway PMDG has by far the best scheme in how they test. The technical team nails it down and the beta team find all of the nitnoids like a polygon sticking through the side of the plane. As for a 777 being chopped up, Wow not even 20 and given a death sentence. I can't imagine with the demand one being scrapped, but you never know maybe it had a lot of fatigue issues. I wonder how long it will be before we see 787's in the desert. I know some of Boeing test fleet, ZA001 for example, has been flown to the Mojave Desert; stripped of her insides and engines. She sits quietly for the next time she flies for the last time to a museum. for example, has been gutted, engines removed and put in a hanger

Hmmmm if I remember right dreamland is a reference to Area 51. OMG PMDG is going to create UFO's!!!! They will sell little green men addons, the manuals will be written in Klingon. :lol: :lol: :lol: Sorry Rob, couldn't resist!

I know IFR as best FS can mimic it. However I know Microsoft never really did a good job of it and I guess I want to know how the real world does it short of buying a several thousand dollar IFR course at my local pilot shop. I am good at letting FSBuild generate a plan for me but at times I don't feel it is even right, FlightAware is great but for US. Maybe the Enroute rules have changed but several times I notice FSB sends me down an airway that is suppose to be one-way but they are sending me down it the wrong way. Also just from personal observations from flights I have taken. I recently "discovered" SkyVector and wanted to know how a airline dispatch office or a IFR pilot planned a route. I can create my own route but I know countries have preferred routes so I may not be all that accurate on long international flights. Can you tell I am really excited about the 777! I know nobody is going to scold me for using the wrong airways on own routes, guess I am just wanting to be as real as it is in the real world. So in reality the only area I feel my IFR skills is lacking is that of the reading maps (90% I understand, just trying to put it all together), real world routing (ties to the maps). I am also excited to see what PFPX has to offer when it is released. I will look at the pilotedge IFR workshops, maybe they have something that will give me the Ah Ha light bulb click I am needing. Thx