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Hi, I just wanted to know what you guys do to simulate RF legs in the NGX, if you fly RNP approaches with RF legs. I'm fairly new to the way RNP approaches with RF legs/RNP approaches in general work, and would like to know what some of you do to fly that RF leg realistically, considering that RF legs aren't supported in the NGX. Since I mainly fly routes for WestJet in FSX and I found where I can get the RNP approach charts for applicable airports (fltplan.com and then in the RCAP section), I enter the waypoints manually and then handfly the legs that have larger arcs implemented in them. Otherwise I will let the aircraft just do it's thing and fly the approach the way it likes up until the FAF. I did find though, at airports such as YLW where the arc is tighter I find the NGX flies a pretty decent curve. Cheers, Mike
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I've had the NGX for just over two years now but I've been reading posts previous posts about RF segments being added in the future. Although I don't have any other PMDG aircraft I'm pretty sure it is relevant the 777 and 747 as well. The last one I found was this one in almost two years ago: I just was wondering if this is still happening and if so can you give any sort of time frame? (I know PMDG don't like giving time frames with how fiddly code can be) I fly Qantas 737-800 (virtually) and RNAV approaches are used at nearly every airport. Even if ARINC-424 isn't finished, is there any possibility to at least hide fixes because doing approaches like this (http://www.airservicesaustralia.com/aip/current/dap/BBNGN13-140.pdf) Result in most of the ND being covered (unless you use a very small range) in arc fixes making the real fixes hard to see especially when combined with the missed approach track. (http://www.airservicesaustralia.com/aip/current/dap/BBNGN14-140.pdf) Thanks
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Hi, I just wanted to know what you guys do to simulate RF legs in the NGX, if you fly RNP approaches with RF legs. I'm fairly new to the way RNP approaches with RF legs/RNP approaches in general work, and would like to know what some of you do to fly that RF leg realistically, considering that RF legs aren't supported in the NGX. Since I mainly fly routes for WestJet in FSX and I found where I can get the RNP approach charts for applicable airports (fltplan.com and then in the RCAP section), I enter the waypoints manually and then handfly the legs that have larger arcs implemented in them. Otherwise I will let the aircraft just do it's thing and fly the approach the way it likes up until the FAF. I did find though, at airports such as YLW where the arc is tighter I find the NGX flies a pretty decent curve. Cheers, Mike
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A while back some guys did some work on creating the data to allow us to do the RNP approaches into NZQN - quite a task as the NGX at the moment isnt fully capable of flying many RNP procudres, but also as these particular plates are not completly publicly published as they are only allowed to be flown by certain operators. I have this data, but its now completley out of date as NZQN have radically changed all of there procedures, including SIDS and STARS, and introduced new GNSS approaches into NZQN. Although they still appear in the AIP at present - these NOTAMS B5780/12 NOTAMN Q) NZZC/QPIAW/I/NBO/A/000/999/4501S16844E005 A) NZQN B) 1302061100 C) PERM E) REF AIP NZQN AD 2-45.1 QUEENSTOWN RNAV (RNP) Z RWY 05: PUBLISHED IFR APCH PROCEDURE COMPLETELY WITHDRAWN REF AIP NZQN AD 2-45.2 QUEENSTOWN RNAV (RNP) Z RWY 23: PUBLISHED IFR APCH PROCEDURE COMPLETELY WITHDRAWN Show that the RNP Z approaches are now withdrawn, however there is still a RNP Y. The NAVDATA from Aersoft contains the newer sids and stars (well most of them - again missing some of the RNP procedures) but these are not too difficult to create as the points have track adn distance marked on the charts - but may need some tweaking still due to the RNP nature of these points. I have added these myself to the navdata now. When it comes to the new GNSS and the VOR approaches and the RNP Y approach Im looking at trying to add these also as there probably enough data on the charts this time to create them and then do some tweaking to help build in the RNP paths better. However a little help please on understanding the charts with refrence to the visual circuits that are contained on these charts. Lets say take the VOR/DME B approach the latter part of the approach tracks inbound to the QN vor with a MAPT at 2DME QN with the MAPT to have you fly off from the QN on a radial to AFTON. However there is included on the chart a Visual circuit published. Flying this approach are you expected to follow the inbound radial to the QN and aslong as you are visual then fly the orbiting right visual circuit pattern to land on 23(or even in fact 05 by flying the other way) or as you track down the inbound radial you turn direct for the runway when visual? or even a combination here that you can fly the VOR B regardless of landing runway, but fly straight in if on 23, but do the visual circuit if landing 05 or should the visual circuit be flown in both cases? This circuit(or version) of exits on the GNSS appraoches also, and so again is this the case of flying manually the visual circuit or is it the intention that the last RNP point is from where you would then turn direct to the runway? Link to the VOR B http://www.aip.net.nz/pdf/NZQN_43.1_43.2.pdf Link to the AIP for QNZN http://www.aip.net.nz/NavWalk.aspx?section=CHARTS&tree=Queenstown
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