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There has been much gnashing of teeth and wringing of hands following news of Microsoft's closing of the ACES studio. Whatever may come in the future from that company is largely not much of a concern for me, especially given some of the development that is underway in FsX at the moment.In terms of simulating aircraft, the brilliant work by A2A Simulations (with their "Accusim" addon) highlights just how far behind the available tech most of the other aircraft developers are. They have produced aircraft that are of a level of complexity that is astounding, of a stunning visual quality, all operating at frame rates that are extremely friendly and usable.In the same vein, where scenery is concerned, the work done by Orbx with their FTX product quite frankly leaves most of the others for dead, a long way behind. Their combination of extremely detailed and annotated landclass textures with equally detailed photoreal imagery offers a flight experience that is hard to beat given equipment available today. Their tech is really well demonstrated in their latest video, have a look here... The contrast between default and what is possible today is really cleverly demonstrated.New Orbx Video.Now I don't have any association with either company, but I admit to being amongst their greatest fans. I urge all those simmers who think that the world is now enveloped in doom and gloom to reconsider. In my opinion the future for simming has never been in better shape.Cheers and happy simming,

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HOLY CRAP! that is the best FS video I have ever seen! I had to watch it twice so my jaw could be picked up off the ground!

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Yes i can only agree with you guys here i have never seen such a good video, The ORBX FTX scenery looks outstanding i do use it myself and i can only say what fantastic work goes on there. So good i think it is its all i have on my drive at the moment well done to all for the vid.cheersIain.

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I couldn't agree more. whatever is the future of FS, there is still room for discovery and improvement based on what we have right now for several years to come... the achievement of the addon dev are amazing. It is all the more true if we consider that many (me included) are still using FS9, waiting for cheap upgrade to meet FSX hardware requirement (I guess another couple of years ?). Speaking about FS9, looking back at its evolution from what it was in 2003 and what it is now is also an evidence that FS is not dead because no new FS version is due out soon. FS9 became a dead end in term of base platform in 2006 when FSX came out and still it keep on improving almost 3 years later.It look like FSX is very far from having shown its potential and still it already look amazing as this FTX video demonstrate. maybe I am wrong but it appear that the limiting factor in what can be done with FSX is more hardware and than software (contrary to FS9). And hardware will keep on improving despite the closure of ACES studios. I feel very sorry for the former ACES workers (and everyone who loose their jobs, beeing fired by companies that are making benefits) but as far as flight simming is concerned the future look promising.cheersJulien

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Practically the only VFR flying I do is in Australia now, well at least until the new US regions start coming.

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Practically the only VFR flying I do is in Australia now, well at least until the new US regions start coming.
That video must have been done on some powerful pc.... My major reason for flying FS9 for an extra year after FSX came out, was the fabulous scenery produced by Vouchez - Flight Scenery.com - Portland and Rhode Island, plus the numerous highly-detailed, real airports of Martin and George of Fly Tampa. These are sorely missed by myself - and others, I'm sure. Maybe it's time to leave Seattle.... :(

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It's funny how people talk as if Flight Simulator just "died".In a way it did, but at the same time we should remember that we wouldn't have had a new version of FS anyway for another 2 years, give or take.FSX will likely be around for a very long time, just as FS9 was around for a very long time (and is still quite popular).

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That is some of the best editing abilities I have ever seen in my life. VERY VERY well done Orbx. Something like that deserves a big round of applause. The environment looks worlds ahead of the default flight sim (the default 172 is nice though ;)).Kudos, and FSX has to many capabilities to die! you should know this!

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The environment looks worlds ahead of the default flight sim
The environment IS worlds ahead of the default flight sim. Add the wonderful freeware addons such as the Aussi FTX AI traffic, the just released OZx ai shipping traffic, hundreds of airfields or repaints by OZx, Anthony and the guys from FTX and you end up being in flightsim nirvana. To those who have not yet seen the video Maxter mentioned above, do yourself a favour : watch it cos what you see in that video is what you get... (except those fancy windows :()

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Hi Paul J,You said:"That video must have been done on some powerful pc.... "I didn't think I could run FTX on my machine so I never bought it, until they put out a free demo. Believe it or not, I get smoother and more useable performance with FTX than default FSX. I only fly in FTX areas, it is fantastic (period). Hope this helps.

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It's funny how people talk as if Flight Simulator just "died".
I agree Bryan. We may lose those who's main focus is more of the gaming crowd who always seem to be looking for the best effects and hardware- but those of us who's interest are more aviation related stand to gain a lot I hope- just by giving developers more time in FSX to stabilize development.Bruce.

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Look at it this way, FSX has some limitations in its engine, but now that FS11 may be delayed or never show up. it will give developers time to overcome these limitations. There are already a few products that have found ways around some and i hope this gets passed on. All i can say is FSX has made simming so much more fun, i have more payware for this then i had for FS9 and certainly done a lot more hrs.

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There has been much gnashing of teeth and wringing of hands following news of Microsoft's closing of the ACES studio. Whatever may come in the future from that company is largely not much of a concern for me, especially given some of the development that is underway in FsX at the moment.In terms of simulating aircraft, the brilliant work by A2A Simulations (with their "Accusim" addon) highlights just how far behind the available tech most of the other aircraft developers are. They have produced aircraft that are of a level of complexity that is astounding, of a stunning visual quality, all operating at frame rates that are extremely friendly and usable.In the same vein, where scenery is concerned, the work done by Orbx with their FTX product quite frankly leaves most of the others for dead, a long way behind. Their combination of extremely detailed and annotated landclass textures with equally detailed photoreal imagery offers a flight experience that is hard to beat given equipment available today. Their tech is really well demonstrated in their latest video, have a look here... The contrast between default and what is possible today is really cleverly demonstrated.New Orbx Video.Now I don't have any association with either company, but I admit to being amongst their greatest fans. I urge all those simmers who think that the world is now enveloped in doom and gloom to reconsider. In my opinion the future for simming has never been in better shape.Cheers and happy simming,

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Hi Paul J,You said:"That video must have been done on some powerful pc.... "I didn't think I could run FTX on my machine so I never bought it, until they put out a free demo. Believe it or not, I get smoother and more useable performance with FTX than default FSX. I only fly in FTX areas, it is fantastic (period). Hope this helps.
Why - thanks for the pointer, Mr. Caribou! It looks like I'm going to give it a shot in a week or so, for sure. It is impressive, and I do have an 80 year-old Australian buddy who loves his flight sim, but hasn't got too many downloads... I'll just see if I can't make his day! :( Most of my flying is done between Seattle and Portland, and right now I'm working on making the two old FS9 Flight Scenery products work in FSX, since revisiting their forum earlier yesterday. After the removal of about 36 of the Portland tree, tarmac, dirtrwy bgl's I have a real Portland once again! This is one great hobby, ain't it?http://www.flightscenery.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=1051

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Believe it or not, I get smoother and more useable performance with FTX than default FSX. I only fly in FTX areas, it is fantastic (period). Hope this helps.
I have to totally concur with this sentiment... Their optimisation of textures and autogen seems to have produced a visual treat several orders of magnitude better than the default with a FPS price in the bargain basement... Remarkable stuff really.Cheers and happy simming,

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I've read (somewhere) that this Orbx Australia scenery will not work properly if you have any version of UTX installed, which is a deal breaker for me. Any idea if that's true?

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I've read (somewhere) that this Orbx Australia scenery will not work properly if you have any version of UTX installed, which is a deal breaker for me. Any idea if that's true?
No FTX works 100% fine with UTX, in fact most of our US based customers have UTX + FTX +GEX installed. The key is this: just ensure you turn FTX Mode (a tiny little app we provide) to [OFF] anytime you install new addons. Even so, in the event that UTX's terrain.cfg entries get foo-barred, you just run the UTX config tool again and all their entries are restored - problem solved.We will soon release a new GUI for FTX which does the same as UTX and VancouverX, and "plays nice" with terrain.cfg so all our entries live together like a happy family :)BTW, thanks for the link Chris, that was a nice gesture.Thanks for the all the comments folks, it's appreciated. To get to the point of making that video took about 24 months of development, so we'll very satisfied so many people are enjoying their low and slow VFR experience "down under". USA PNW is not too far away, perhaps April.

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USA PNW is not too far away, perhaps April.
April? But we want it noooooow!!! :( In any case, I don't mind that FS might stop with X. It will give a chance for the add-ons and the hardware to come to terms with each other. Maybe in a year or two we'll have ORBX quality scenery across North America, some FZ02 quality airports, and the hardware to run it all full blast with lots of AI in major airports. That in itself would be like an FS11.I, for one, want to see some good fantasy scenery for FSX, like the FS9 Things-to-Come lunar base in Florida. That was a riot. I'm all for realism, but there's nothing wrong will good old fashoned fun either.

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Now that I have a relatively new machine that is up to the task, I finally bit the bullet and did some upgrading to my FSX installation a couple of months ago. GEX, UTX, & REX along with some payware aircraft and other add-ons as well. After doing some research and tweaking I have FSX running at a solid 35fps with no stutters while enjoying some jaw-dropping eye candy. The view out of my simulated windscreen is just fine, and I say that from the perspective of a realworld pilot.FS9 still resides on my XP boot drive but I have rarely fired it up since my last round of upgrades to FSX. Aces or no Aces I will be enjoying FSX for a long time to come. I don't let things I have absolutely no control over dictate my outlook on life. There would be a lot more happiness in this world if people would only quit worrying about what they don't have and enjoy what they do have instead. I don't think I'm the "lone ranger" when it comes to this point of view on these things either, not by a long shot, and the sentiments expressed in this thread so far prove just that.Couldn't agree with the OP of this thread and the replies in it more, except to say that as far as I'm concerned the glass is still topped off. Best Regards to All! :(

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Oh, it will be worth waiting for, don't worry about that :)
OK, why the heck haven't I heard about FTX til now? I visit this place daily and this is the first I've heard of FTX. Cool!

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OK, why the heck haven't I heard about FTX til now? I visit this place daily and this is the first I've heard of FTX. Cool!
Noel, I bought my first FTX region on 7 November 08 when I had an P4. There was not going to be an upgrade for my PC until FS11 but FTX changed that. I now have all of their products and seldom fly in the US anymore. I want to fly here at home...and hopefully when they come out with their PNW version I will.....but once you get used to FTX it is hard to fly in the US. I have GEX....FEX...XGraphics...and it looks OK and it is far better than FSX default....and I don't mean to put anyones product down but no scenery I have seen can compare to FTX. If they do as I think...cover the US with it....it will change FSX for all who use it. Even though I own and use their pay products, the free side of that or maybe it is just a developers club for Australia...OZx does several hundred airports that are made to blend in perfectly with FTX...and FTX and OZx are always updating their products....and they have great support. I know none of them and am not affiliated with them in anyway...it is just a great must have scenery. I never ventured into Australia to fly until FTX...it is just that good. Regards

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At the risk of sounding like an Orbx shill, a further evidence of just how full the glass is... Check out this video...Awesome video.Cheers and truly, I am not affiliated with either organisation.

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