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Overclocking works for me - id even recommend it

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i have just overclocked my pc from a 3.16Ghz machine to 3.80Ghz.I was skeptical that this would make much difference to the performance of FSX, but i thought it is worth a go, since it doesnt really cost anything (apart from the price of a new cooling fan to makesure things dont over heat)anyway im still tweaking my system to makesure its stable and running correctly, but my FPS in FSX is immediately less eratic.People go on about having 100FPS, 50FPS etc, but they never mention whether this is consistent and it really needs to be consistent. Obviously 10FPS is going to give bad results. but you get the idea.Anyway i was averaging an erratic 40FPS but dipping down to around 8FPS in busy areas.Now i am at a constant 40FPS with only a deviation of no more than 10 FPS, so the consistency is now present. Something else i noticed, the sim appears to run alot smoother and gives a better illusion of flying.Me Specs.3.16Ghz dual core intel (overclocked to 3.80Ghz)4Gb of DDR2 memory320Gb HDD 7200 rpm, soon to be increased to 1 TB512mb XFX Geforce 9800 GTX+windows 7 64-but home editioni set up FSX according to NickN's instructions and i have to say FSX is most definitely running the best i have ever had it. I also have FSUIPC and Nhancer.I got quite frustrated only a couple of weeks ago, as i have what i consider to be a pretty decent pc and yet i was getting the same performance as running on my 3 year old laptop.But so far so good.All i need to do now is install my VFR scenery, although i am apprehensive as the previous occasions this has resulted in messing up my menu bar on FSX, it disappears but you can still select items if you can remember the keys to press - weird. So i may hangfire on that one.One other thing, is real environment as frame rate intensive as active sky and x graphics??Tom

Tom

 

Why not read some useful tips and tricks - http://forum.avsim.n...22#entry1965722

Corky. Appreciate any help you can provide. I have just purchased a new PC, infinately more capable than my old coal burner that died before Xmas. However, I'm really struggling to get any performance out of it. Its far worse than my 5 year old machine that died on me.I've loaded FSX and its not goodI loaded FS2004 and I get soime verion compatibility message FSUPIC! What is this, how do I fix it. It asks for a key code when I try and load it. VERY frustrated. Help much appreciated.My spec is:Core i7-920 2.66 Ghz, 8Mb cache12GB DDR3 Ram, 1600MhzWindows 7Asus P6T board2 x 1Gb ATI radeon HD5770 graphics wqith Direct X 112 x TB HDD1200W power supplyV8 extreme CPU cooler

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I loaded FS2004 and I get some version compatibility message FSUPIC! What is this, how do I fix it. It asks for a key code when I try and load it. VERY frustrated. Help much appreciated.
FSUIPC is a separate module for FS2004. You can disable it by renaming FSUIPCxx.dll in your Modules folder, or you can register itby providing the Keycode that you got when you purchased it.

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Corky. Appreciate any help you can provide. I have just purchased a new PC, infinately more capable than my old coal burner that died before Xmas. However, I'm really struggling to get any performance out of it. Its far worse than my 5 year old machine that died on me.I've loaded FSX and its not goodI loaded FS2004 and I get soime verion compatibility message FSUPIC! What is this, how do I fix it. It asks for a key code when I try and load it. VERY frustrated. Help much appreciated.My spec is:Core i7-920 2.66 Ghz, 8Mb cache12GB DDR3 Ram, 1600MhzWindows 7Asus P6T board2 x 1Gb ATI radeon HD5770 graphics wqith Direct X 112 x TB HDD1200W power supplyV8 extreme CPU cooler
You should check the hardware forum. Look for posts going back through October. I know thare are some settings for the I7-920 in there. Depending on your RAM latency, you may have issues. My board didn't like Bclocks between 185 and 200. I'm not sure if your will be the same or not.

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I wish I was able to overclock a little, I have a Dell XPS-720, and while it is a very good system in their wisdom they locked out the overclocking functions. What's worse is my memory failed, which was Corsair Dominator PC2 8500 memory, when I replaced it I got errors while in EPP mode (1066Mhz) Found out Corsair made a minor voltage change in their Dominators, that since Dell locked in the earlier voltage values in the Bios the new ones won't work at 1066Mhz. So I had to disable EPP and drop back to 800Mhz. Not a big hit in performance but still would have liked to get what I originally paid for. This will be the last Dell, Gateway or any other, unless it's overclocking options are unlocked. I believe Dell did unlock their XPS 730 model as well as others.

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Corky. Appreciate any help you can provide. I have just purchased a new PC, infinately more capable than my old coal burner that died before Xmas. However, I'm really struggling to get any performance out of it. Its far worse than my 5 year old machine that died on me.I've loaded FSX and its not goodI loaded FS2004 and I get soime verion compatibility message FSUPIC! What is this, how do I fix it. It asks for a key code when I try and load it. VERY frustrated. Help much appreciated.My spec is:Core i7-920 2.66 Ghz, 8Mb cache12GB DDR3 Ram, 1600MhzWindows 7Asus P6T board2 x 1Gb ATI radeon HD5770 graphics wqith Direct X 112 x TB HDD1200W power supplyV8 extreme CPU cooler
Firstly, my understanding of FSUIPC is that you can have it installed on your PC but it doesnt have to be registered. The only reason why you can register is to get extra functionality. But i think the bones of it still work without paying for it.As for your PC, im not an expert on FSX performance but id say your machine would easily cope with it. However in the first instance i would set up FSX using NickN's guide - link below.http://www.simforums.com/forums/forum_posts.asp?TID=29041This will get you going and give you an idea of what settings you should be using. As you use ATI graphics cards i dont think you can use Nhancer. Maybe there is an ATI alternative for this program - it basically allows you to control the graphics settings that your graphics cards use when running FSX.Some people have mentioned that using a dedicated hard drive for FSX and the addons gives some performance help but i couldnt comment any further, although i can say im going to try this myself.If you fancy overclocking, there is a very good guide that i used here - http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/forum/page-240001_11_0.html - by the way i didnt write this and its nothing to do with me despite my name being Tom :( Basically it takes alot of patience and time to test your PC to makesure its stable. If your not sure id get help from someone who really knows.You need to do a little bit of maths to work out the limits of your PC then basically play around with the multiplier, FSB and Vcore settings to increase your CPU speed. That is a really simplistic overview of a complicated process so makesure you read up before trying it. Just be careful using settings other people have used as all systems vary even with similar hardware.Anyway back to your machine spec. In the first instance setup FSX using Nicks guide as mentioned above and see where you go from there. One thing to note, i noticed you have DX 11, well i think FSX only really works fully with DX 9 and has some functionality with DX 10. Dont worry about your PC having DX 11 just be aware that FSX doesnt support it. i have the latest direct X installed but i have setup FSX based on DX 9.Also maksure you defrag your hard drives and keep your overall PC free from clutter and software you dont need.Auslogics is a good free defrag program i use.Hope this helps - sorry i cant be more specific but im still learning myself.Tom

Tom

 

Why not read some useful tips and tricks - http://forum.avsim.n...22#entry1965722

i have just overclocked my pc from a 3.16Ghz machine to 3.80Ghz.I was skeptical that this would make much difference to the performance of FSX, but i thought it is worth a go, since it doesnt really cost anything (apart from the price of a new cooling fan to makesure things dont over heat)anyway im still tweaking my system to makesure its stable and running correctly, but my FPS in FSX is immediately less eratic.People go on about having 100FPS, 50FPS etc, but they never mention whether this is consistent and it really needs to be consistent. Obviously 10FPS is going to give bad results. but you get the idea.Anyway i was averaging an erratic 40FPS but dipping down to around 8FPS in busy areas.Now i am at a constant 40FPS with only a deviation of no more than 10 FPS, so the consistency is now present. Something else i noticed, the sim appears to run alot smoother and gives a better illusion of flying.Me Specs.3.16Ghz dual core intel (overclocked to 3.80Ghz)4Gb of DDR2 memory320Gb HDD 7200 rpm, soon to be increased to 1 TB512mb XFX Geforce 9800 GTX+windows 7 64-but home editioni set up FSX according to NickN's instructions and i have to say FSX is most definitely running the best i have ever had it. I also have FSUIPC and Nhancer.I got quite frustrated only a couple of weeks ago, as i have what i consider to be a pretty decent pc and yet i was getting the same performance as running on my 3 year old laptop.But so far so good.All i need to do now is install my VFR scenery, although i am apprehensive as the previous occasions this has resulted in messing up my menu bar on FSX, it disappears but you can still select items if you can remember the keys to press - weird. So i may hangfire on that one.One other thing, is real environment as frame rate intensive as active sky and x graphics??Tom
Tom,You have recommended overclocking (to other pilots here) but have not actually used it or tested it for very long?Do you have a brand name computer?Does overclocking "void" your computer warranty?I see that the new fan is not much money .. that is good.But if a CPU, motherboard or memory fails .... how much would it cost to purchase the parts and replace them?In fact, would you even be able to tell which component failed in the first place?

Best Regards,

Vaughan Martell  PP-ASEL KDTW

Tom,You have recommended overclocking (to other pilots here) but have not actually used it or tested it for very long?Do you have a brand name computer?Does overclocking "void" your computer warranty?I see that the new fan is not much money .. that is good.But if a CPU, motherboard or memory fails .... how much would it cost to purchase the parts and replace them?In fact, would you even be able to tell which component failed in the first place?
Vaughan - Overclocking is safe if you have a CPU that allows for it to be oc'd. I have a custom built computer based on the specs that are provided by FS-GS so I never buy a brand name off the shelf. One must keep in mind as Tom pointed out that a good cooling unit is a must. As for failing CPU's and mobo's they are fairly inexpensive to replace, about $400 CDN for the two. But you have nothing to worry about if you buy the right parts and OC is done properly.Best,

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Tom,You have recommended overclocking (to other pilots here) but have not actually used it or tested it for very long?Do you have a brand name computer?Does overclocking "void" your computer warranty?I see that the new fan is not much money .. that is good.But if a CPU, motherboard or memory fails .... how much would it cost to purchase the parts and replace them?In fact, would you even be able to tell which component failed in the first place?
Vaughan,Your right i havent tested my system for very long although im confident that what i have achieved so far is ok.I dont really worry about the replacement parts (as flipant as that may seem) as i only take things slowly. I believe the processor i use has been overclocked to 4Ghz. I dont intend on pushing things that far, just after a small performance boost for as little money as possible.I would think overclocking would void your warrenty if it is proved to be the cause of any hardware failure.The machine i use i built myself so the only brande names relate to the individual hardware components.Given some time it would be possible to identify which piece of hardware fails, if the worst happens. But as i say, i dont worry too much about. All i can say is to anyone who tries it be cautious.hope this helpsTom

Tom

 

Why not read some useful tips and tricks - http://forum.avsim.n...22#entry1965722

To over clock, it is best if you build the computer yourself.This way, you'll be sure to buy the right components for the "right" job a.k.a. over clocking.Stock (proprietary) brands like Dell, Compaq, etc. are not for over clocking. Even their gaming line of computers. They use cheap generic parts provided by the lowest bidder and are intended for non-tech savvy people. They don't even want you opening the case most of the time and they use proprietary parts that sometimes are incompatible with regular market, and after-market parts for precisely this reason.So, it is not just a matter of doing your research and taking things slowly. You have to have the right components beyond just additional cooling.You also have to know you may run into either FSB, or RAM walls with regards to how far you can Over clock.Also, there is a point of diminishing returns that arises when you can over clock some more, but the increased frequency won't net you any more performance gains.

Vaughan,Your right i havent tested my system for very long although im confident that what i have achieved so far is ok.I dont really worry about the replacement parts (as flipant as that may seem) as i only take things slowly. I believe the processor i use has been overclocked to 4Ghz. I dont intend on pushing things that far, just after a small performance boost for as little money as possible.I would think overclocking would void your warrenty if it is proved to be the cause of any hardware failure.The machine i use i built myself so the only brande names relate to the individual hardware components.Given some time it would be possible to identify which piece of hardware fails, if the worst happens. But as i say, i dont worry too much about. All i can say is to anyone who tries it be cautious.hope this helpsTom
*******************Tom,This is all just my opinion ...I owned and operated a computer repair and software services company for many years.I repaired (and replaced) many computers for my residential and business clients that were home built or owner upgraded, modified, overclocked - overheated (we called these slow cookers), ... the list goes on.The initial service call, labor, and parts expense, to get back up is often followed by additional expenses for hard drive data recovery (for those with more than just a game) to mention one.Naturally, if you can fix your own PC the service call ($100) and a few hours labor ($240) will be saved. IMO, overclocking is both a science and an art.It requires a very good background in ... well, the specifications of motherboards, memory, CPUs, Video cards and memory. Normally the decision to overclock is made in advance of the PC purchase. As you have to have the correct hardware installed and ready to go ... before the overclocking setup and testing.Overclocking will void a commercial warranty. The computer manufacturer would rather sell you the more expensive (faster) computer in the first place.Some testing (read here, burn-in tests) to verify system stabliity / monitoring temperatures / system hardware performance and soft hits (degree of failure) reports is also required.The failure (which you have never yet experienced) often starts out looking like .. maybe like a virus.But it does not go away. And more symptoms follow.So, Tom, you were correct when you closed your last post by saying: "All i can say is to anyone who tries it be cautious."Good luck with your new system Tom.

Best Regards,

Vaughan Martell  PP-ASEL KDTW

When I last upgraded my PC I purchased a Gigabyte Mobo specs in my sig. It comes with its own tuning product which operates in the windows environment but you have to reboot after choosing your new settings. Going from standard settings to the turbo settings jumped my CPU from the stock 3.33ghz to 4.16GHZ with appropriate memory and voltage settings. I checked the CPU temp and it runs at less than 40

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Jay,I was very skeptical about overclocking anything on my previous system. I never did it. I was never worried about the warranty because I had everything built from scratch but I just didn't want to fry anything.I went with the 920 because of its reputation for great overclocks. I figured I needed to be in the 975 range so it seemed like it was best to try overclocking a 920 first to save the money.Everything has been working well so far. There is a lot of information on overclocking the 920 and I bet you can find settings in the hardware for that are specific to your board/cpu as the combo is pretty common. Make sure the info you find is recent - for a D0 0920. The older ones will have different settings. I can say that the ones I found worked on the first try - 2.66 right up to 4Ghz. YMMV. Run OCCT to test the oc and use realtemp to monitor temps. Chances are you will know right away if the overclock is bad. OCCT will shut down if you reach 80c so the likelihood of you frying anything is low.You will need a decent aftermarket cooler.Of course, you can fry stuff and you will void your warranty but I wouldn't worry about it too much with a 920 as long as you are willing to take the chance and put in the time.Regarding FSUIPC, make sure you have the most recent version installed. It is version 4.53. After you install it, FSX will ask you for permission to allow it. Say yes.

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i have just overclocked my pc from a 3.16Ghz machine to 3.80Ghz.I was skeptical that this would make much difference to the performance of FSX, but i thought it is worth a go, since it doesnt really cost anything (apart from the price of a new cooling fan to makesure things dont over heat)anyway im still tweaking my system to makesure its stable and running correctly, but my FPS in FSX is immediately less eratic.People go on about having 100FPS, 50FPS etc, but they never mention whether this is consistent and it really needs to be consistent. Obviously 10FPS is going to give bad results. but you get the idea.Anyway i was averaging an erratic 40FPS but dipping down to around 8FPS in busy areas.Now i am at a constant 40FPS with only a deviation of no more than 10 FPS, so the consistency is now present. Something else i noticed, the sim appears to run alot smoother and gives a better illusion of flying.Me Specs.3.16Ghz dual core intel (overclocked to 3.80Ghz)4Gb of DDR2 memory320Gb HDD 7200 rpm, soon to be increased to 1 TB512mb XFX Geforce 9800 GTX+windows 7 64-but home editioni set up FSX according to NickN's instructions and i have to say FSX is most definitely running the best i have ever had it. I also have FSUIPC and Nhancer.I got quite frustrated only a couple of weeks ago, as i have what i consider to be a pretty decent pc and yet i was getting the same performance as running on my 3 year old laptop.But so far so good.All i need to do now is install my VFR scenery, although i am apprehensive as the previous occasions this has resulted in messing up my menu bar on FSX, it disappears but you can still select items if you can remember the keys to press - weird. So i may hangfire on that one.One other thing, is real environment as frame rate intensive as active sky and x graphics??Tom
I'm sure that FSX will figure out a way to slow that system down. :(

This site will give you all the answers, with many sample o/c's. Look for the 4gig club.http://forums.pureoverclock.com


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