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Looking for a complicated plane for very short flights

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The PMDG J41 would be a great choice.It's very deep in systems simulation, it's perfect for short hops at low altitude, it's fast, it has an FMS that you don't need to use in order to fly, and she SOUNDS great!Not to mention the joy of handflying...the flight model is very solid, and she handles very nicely.
Ditto!jja
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I would second the PC-12... Download the video from: http://www.flightvideoproductions.com/pilatus.htmand install an RXP GNS unit into the Flight1 Pilatus and you are set for PNW!
will the RXP unit drive the flight 1 auto pilot - I had heard there were some issues with that when the PC12 came out.Colin

PMDG J41 is the plane i fly most of the time recently. It's top notch, but keep in mind that it doesn't have panel state loading/saving, failures (except engine overtemp), cold & dark cockpit feature and keyboard assignments. The two later issues can be resolved to some extent with user made FSUIPC LUA files.Otherwise it's usual PMDG quality (VC is superb!), but i don't think it can be safely operated from runways shorther than about 1800m (~5500ft), so i doubt it's suitable for bush flying. I'm really enjoying it when flying IFR, though.

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will the RXP unit drive the flight 1 auto pilot - I had heard there were some issues with that when the PC12 came out.Colin
Works OK on my system.. :(

Bert

I think the Duke would be a great fit for a short flight. That's what I use on vatsim. The Cirrus is also another great choice.Both when used with the RXP Garmin units provide a good balance of realism and funhttp://realairsimulations.com/duke09_rxp.php?page=duke09_rxp

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Jeroen,You can fly the Flight1 Cessna Citation Mustang at 115 knots with full flaps, and the wheels down :(

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I like bushflying and short flights (30 to 45 minutes all included), but I also like complicated planes (like the big PMDG airliners, etc.) Anyone knows of a complicated GA that can be used for low and slow...? (The Quest Kodiak comes close, but unfortunately it won't run on my system. And it isn't complicated enough. Very nice plane nonetheless.) Right now I fly the C182RG and the C185F, but well, there is nothing complicated about those planes... I want a plane that keeps me busy (with learning how to use it and while flying) but that will still enable me to get the most out of for instance the upcoming PNW. I fear a plane like that doesn't exist (what real life pilot wants to setup an FMC for a 30 minute flight...?) but who knows...
Hi, If you like bush flying and being kept busy why not fly the old fashioned way without GPS and autopilot, only pilotage and dead reckoning with your navigation chart in marginal VFR conditions at low altitude ?Select your destination according to weather conditions with the four flight website , prepare your navigation with skyvector, fly the freeware DC3C which includes detailed system modelisation and realistic failure simulation based on random or pilote induced errors which both will force you to fly by the book, monitor all you gauges and master your emergency procedures. You can add the excellent fscaptain program which will force you to fly according to your airline policy, talk to your crew and pasengers while your performance as a pilot is being assessed. believe me you will be very busy and challenged as you've never been. No need for complex navigation systems!!!Happy flying.
Jeroen,You can fly the Flight1 Cessna Citation Mustang at 115 knots with full flaps, and the wheels down :(
LOL Hm, maybe I should install my MD-11 and give that a try in the bushes... :(
Hi, If you like bush flying and being kept busy why not fly the old fashioned way without GPS and autopilot, only pilotage and dead reckoning with your navigation chart in marginal VFR conditions at low altitude ?
Hm, there is a difference in being kept busy the nice way and being kept busy the wrong way. And when it comes to me and NO GPS, it's all about the wrong way... literally and figurly! :(

That's unfortunate J. Looking outside the window to find your way is way more fun then looking at a GPS screen! And this is coming from a guy that likes glass cockpits in GA. But there is just something in climbing in my Cub, opening the window and the door, checking my sectionals and get up there and enjoy it.

Bryan K.
Ottawa, Canada
Current virtual hangar: Flight1 BN2 Islander, A2A C182, A2A C172, Aerosoft Twin Otter Extended

That's unfortunate J. Looking outside the window to find your way is way more fun then looking at a GPS screen! And this is coming from a guy that likes glass cockpits in GA. But there is just something in climbing in my Cub, opening the window and the door, checking my sectionals and get up there and enjoy it.
Well, maybe I should give that a thought, but then I would have to have sectionals/charts first... And since it's no photorealistic scenery down there, isn't it hard to find your way in completely unknown territory?EDIT:I see the skyvector site has charts... Boy, do they look complicated. :( But I don't want to switch between FSX and a site, so I'd have to print them somehow... What would a good map for the PNW region cost?

You can order VFR sectionals for about $10... one would cover enough area to keep you busy for a loooong time..FSX scenery is more than accurate enough for VFR pilotage.. the bodies of water.. rivers.. city areas.. roads, power-lines.. RR-tracks are all there.. :(

Hi,I would recommend the Cessna Citation Mustang, It has one of the best implemented Garmin 1000 navigation systems, it is a dream to fly, and it is great for small airstrips. I fly the PMDG 747-400 in FSX quite a bit, so this A/C compliments the "big iron" very nicely.The developers recently initiated a bunch of fixes and added "key events" for those wanting to interface hardware like, custom panels, GoFlight, or touch screen capability.I'm currently using TouchBuddy SW and it really makes flying this plane a pleasure.The G-1000 also supports SIDS, STARS, and WAAS GPS approaches. So you also can fly point to point using the most sophisticated general aviation package on the market.Bill "Bingo" Clark

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Well, maybe I should give that a thought, but then I would have to have sectionals/charts first... And since it's no photorealistic scenery down there, isn't it hard to find your way in completely unknown territory?EDIT:I see the skyvector site has charts... Boy, do they look complicated. :( But I don't want to switch between FSX and a site, so I'd have to print them somehow... What would a good map for the PNW region cost?
US Sectionals are not expensive. For FTX PNW, you will need Seatlle, Klamath Falls (north of Oregon), and a Canadian sectional for the British Columbia part. There are many options out there to make VFR flying "as real as it gets". I even ordered sectionals for Australia to use with FTX and OZx. And I have the sectionals that cover the Tongass area.Take the time to learn how to read the sectionals. When you do it right, "playing" in FSX can be very educational as well. Note: you can also do flight planning with Skyvectors. Right on the map. And it shows current weather.

Bryan K.
Ottawa, Canada
Current virtual hangar: Flight1 BN2 Islander, A2A C182, A2A C172, Aerosoft Twin Otter Extended

For low, slow and complicated, have you considered the Do27? :http://www.aerosoft.com/cgi-local/us/ibosh...438444780,10175Admittedly, I've yet to fly it in FSX, but it's still my personal favorite for FS9.
This model was built for FS9, where it was (is) excellent. There was a conversion to FSX, but it was more of a retrofit than a rebuild, and it hasn't been updated for SP2/Acceleration.

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