The threads are like the beating jungle drums.....the natives have become restless once again :(

:( My current FS9 status: Program is shut down; can't type, giggle and fly at the same time! :( Regards,Mel

Greetings,I don't post here very much, but I'd like to give my personal view on FS9. I first started simming in 1986 with my Atari 800XL. I still have my log book with my first entry. I've been an avid simmer ever since.In 2004 I got sick, and finally got though it by summer 2007. During that time I didn't sim much. A few years after and I still didn't get back into it very much. Within the last year though I put my GoFlight cockpit back together and got set up under the stairs. I updated all my addon's and got a working office for FS9 and FSX. So after a year of FS9/FSX I've come to the conclusion that FS9 still has many years left in it. With FS9/FSX I have the following addons:Flight1 ATRFS2Crew ATRRadar ContactFS Flight KeeperREXMyTrafficUltimate TerranSince I have this for both sims, there is an upgrade path that I can take for FSX. I'll be waiting quite some time before I move to FSX though. With the great REX add on, and the Ultimate Terran, I have a great set up for FS9. No need to move on quite yet. If the pic uploads you can see I've recycled an older Dell to be used as an FSFK moving map/Flight Recorder, and Radar Contact addon. With WideClient and FSUIPC it works great. It's a great set up for FS9. For now at least, FS9 still has a lot of life left. And I plan to take advantage of it as much as possible. Inbound ILS RWY 37. :)Thanks for reading,-Matt

I had one of those "a-ha" moments this weekend flying in FS9. I was departing KBOS (FlyTampa's excellent updated version). While I was taxiing, AI traffic was landing and taking off at the various runways. I don't have AI traffic on 100%, but it is pretty high. Great detailed scenery plus lots of AI traffic... no FPS hiccups. Everything just works.

I almost bought fsx today at local electronic stor, had it in my hands heading to the cash, when I had a change of heart and thought, wait a minute, why invest in this when I have a perfectly good sim at home.The only reason I can see myself buying fsx as of right now would be for the pmdg J41, man that looks like quite the aircraft, but I dont think my system would handle fsx.

I almost bought fsx today at local electronic stor, had it in my hands heading to the cash, when I had a change of heart and thought, wait a minute, why invest in this when I have a perfectly good sim at home.The only reason I can see myself buying fsx as of right now would be for the pmdg J41, man that looks like quite the aircraft, but I dont think my system would handle fsx.

Like you I thought the very same thing "the pmdg J41".The Pmdg J41 is just beautiful ,but it is one tuff puppy on a system . I flew it in KJFK by FSDT and it was a slide show in the low single digits. You can fly it in default sim areas with upper teens and maybe if you have a beast Ti7 680 6 core in some addon on areas with good results. My specs. :( Ti 960 overclocked to 3.9water cooled Nvidia 285 gtx 2gbssd 160 gb intel hd6gigs of ddr3 20000 creative sound blaster extreme gamer sound card

:( My current FS9 status: Program is shut down; can't type, giggle and fly at the same time! :( Regards,Mel

I am still LOL at myself.....shameless me. I can still hear the chants, FS9, FS9, boom boom boom as I see JANE awaiting in the tree house.....and I say on-ga-wa. :( B)

Ti 960 overclocked to 3.9water cooled Nvidia 285 gtx 2gbssd 160 gb intel hd6gigs of ddr3 20000 creative sound blaster extreme gamer sound card@ AcMech, I am a little suprised you can't run FSX on this rig, deciphering this I assume you have a core I7 @ 3.9 not an actual Texas Instruments and 6 gigs of DDR 3 @ 2000(if you have 20000, please tell me where you got it :( )My FSX system is very close to yours and runs it just fine with high settings and plenty of addon airports.Although it occurs to me you simply may have chosen not to run FSX.

I think there's a lot of outward self-justification going on here. I went exclusively FSX a year ago and it does more than FS9 ever did for me and does it better, smoother and faster with more on the screen. The underperforming, problematic FSX of 2007 is a thing of the past. Hardware is on top of it now. It's not a high cost option any more. It used to be. Not now.

I went exclusively FSX a year ago and it does more than FS9 ever did for me and does it better, smoother and faster with more on the screen.

......but I can't help coming back to the FS9 forum to see if I made the right decision. :( I am not short of a bob or two and could easily afford a top end rig to run FS10.So cost is not the problem. It does not suit my needs...I do not like the way it looks (I find it cartoony) and far too many broken codes.FS10 is simply not a upgrade from my tricked out FS9.999 IMHO..I will be flying FS9 until a worthy upgrade comes along. :(

Ti 960 overclocked to 3.9water cooled Nvidia 285 gtx 2gbssd 160 gb intel hd6gigs of ddr3 20000 creative sound blaster extreme gamer sound card@ AcMech, I am a little suprised you can't run FSX on this rig, deciphering this I assume you have a core I7 @ 3.9 not an actual Texas Instruments and 6 gigs of DDR 3 @ 2000(if you have 20000, please tell me where you got it :( )My FSX system is very close to yours and runs it just fine with high settings and plenty of addon airports.Although it occurs to me you simply may have chosen not to run FSX.

I can run FSX somewhat ok,not as flulid as fs9 by no means. Also, just like Ed stated ,which I also agree with FSX looks cartoony. You can Fly in Fly tampa TNCM in both versions and to me the fs9 version looks better.I pefer fs9 peroid. My specs are as listed.Intel Core i7-960 Bloomfield 3.2GHz 8MB L3 Cache LGA 1366 130W Quad-Core overclocked @3.9GHzCORSAIR Cooling Hydro Series CWCH50-1 120mm High Performance CPU Cooler ASRock X58 Extreme LGA 1366 Intel X58 ATX Intel Motherboard Intel X25-M Mainstream SSDSA2M160G2XXX 2.5" 160GB SATA II MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) For fs9 and OSIntel X25-V SSDSA2MP040G2R5 2.5" 40GB SATA II MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) for other stuffEVGA 02G-P3-1185-AR GeForce GTX 285 2GB 512-bit DDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 Creative - Sound Blaster X-Fi XtremeGamer Sound CardOCZ 750W SLI/CrossFire Active PFC Power Supply

......but I can't help coming back to the FS9 forum to see if I made the right decision. :( I am not short of a bob or two and could easily afford a top end rig to run FS10.So cost is not the problem. It does not suit my needs...I do not like the way it looks (I find it cartoony) and far too many broken codes.FS10 is simply not a upgrade from my tricked out FS9.999 IMHO..I will be flying FS9 until a worthy upgrade comes along. :(

Couldn't have said it better myself.I also own workstations (real-multi-core CPUs, not the "fake stacked dual/quad core" stuff) that can eat up any high-end game for lunch, so i'm sure FSX will run amazingly smooth on them. However, i just don't see a need. I also spent 1+ year making FS9 super optimized. It runs with off the roof fps and i never experience CTDs or problems. FS9 is one of those "magical" versions that hits everything right. I compare it to GTR2 on the sim-racing scene. The newer versions (GT Evo, Race On...which i all own), just don't compare to the original..but at the end of the day, it's just a game. So whatever version fullfills your happiness, then that's the one to use. :) I'm still playing games like "The Dig" and "Curse of Monkey Island" they date back to 1995....-feng

When ORBX cover the whole world, in FSX, than i will, maybe, install it. Until that, i'm not planing to change FS9. So far FSX nature, look more like "Oblivion" or "World of Warcraft" than the real world.As someone said, if someone like "eye candy stuff" more than flying, go for it. I just don't feel need to install FSX...

My current FS9 status still looks the same since 2003: up and running. It's my basic flight simulator and it will remain my basic flight simulator until there should be a viable replacement.FS9 offers as much addons as no other simulator. And with the proper addons installed like for example: Flight1 Ground and Flight Environment, several sceneries and professional aircraft addons, there is no need at all to change to FSX. I have to agree to those who say it looks cartoonish. It does indeed. And it's grahics engine is a catastrophe, still. With proper addons it won't run smooth with everything in max settings even today. I've seen people who claimed it does but it did just because they didn't use full weather settings (and almost no clouds for example). But I think the most reason why a lot of people do not use FSX is because it was released right at a time when FS9 was running well on a lot of computers and when there was a massive amount of addons available. Even until today you don't get that much addons for FSX than for FS9. And FS9 still is supported by the majority of aircraft and scenery designers simply because a significant amount of people still use it.I won't ever change to FSX. I've had the Deluxe edition but I sold it again after only one week of disappointment. I've tried X-Plane inbetween as well. Its graphics at least look better than FSX whilst it also runs much smoother (which is just another example of the crappy FSX engine), but its user-friendliness is terrible and there is a massive lack of professional stuff like detailed aicrafts systems simulation, a relatively small number of airports addons and not even a comparable ATC like MSFS has.I'm waiting for Aerosoft Flight Simulator 2012. If this project really becomes true, and if it becomes a viable FS9 replacement, I will change. If not, I will go with FS9 for as long as there won't be another option. FSX does not even support Active Camera (and vice versa). And my DF 727 and all the airports and scenery around my real home town is not availabe for FSX. Plus FSX really looks like The Sectret of Monkey Island if I consider the colours. Nah, somebody would have to give me money, a lot of, for changing to FSX :( /rant over

I think there's a lot of outward self-justification going on here. I went exclusively FSX a year ago and it does more than FS9 ever did for me and does it better, smoother and faster with more on the screen. The underperforming, problematic FSX of 2007 is a thing of the past. Hardware is on top of it now. It's not a high cost option any more. It used to be. Not now.

Can you really run large 3rd party airport sceneries + AI traffic + complex aircraft with FPS 30+? I know I don't have an i7 (see specs below), but I can't get RealAir's Duke to run without dipping into the teens just during cruise over default scenery. That kind of performance is simply unacceptable to me. Taking a complex airliner into a busy 3rd party airport would be a disaster for me.

Greetings,I don't post here very much, but I'd like to give my personal view on FS9. I first started simming in 1986 with my Atari 800XL. I still have my log book with my first entry. I've been an avid simmer ever since.In 2004 I got sick, and finally got though it by summer 2007. During that time I didn't sim much. A few years after and I still didn't get back into it very much. Within the last year though I put my GoFlight cockpit back together and got set up under the stairs. I updated all my addon's and got a working office for FS9 and FSX. So after a year of FS9/FSX I've come to the conclusion that FS9 still has many years left in it. With FS9/FSX I have the following addons:Flight1 ATRFS2Crew ATRRadar ContactFS Flight KeeperREXMyTrafficUltimate TerranSince I have this for both sims, there is an upgrade path that I can take for FSX. I'll be waiting quite some time before I move to FSX though. With the great REX add on, and the Ultimate Terran, I have a great set up for FS9. No need to move on quite yet. If the pic uploads you can see I've recycled an older Dell to be used as an FSFK moving map/Flight Recorder, and Radar Contact addon. With WideClient and FSUIPC it works great. It's a great set up for FS9. For now at least, FS9 still has a lot of life left. And I plan to take advantage of it as much as possible. Inbound ILS RWY 37. :)Thanks for reading,-Matt

Must get warm in the cubby hole? Nice private little spot.