October 21, 201015 yr Right now I have MyTraffic 5.3 (I think). That's very nice, because it gives you tons and tons of aircraft (also many Russian ones), and tons of flightplans for them to fly. However, I always stumble over one thing: I really dislike the actual airplane models. I think they are rather bland, and after using (and still using) WoAI's packages in FS9, going to MyTraffic is an enormous step down. The freeware models WoAI uses are much better, honestly, than the models included with MyTraffic. So here's my question: How does UT2 fare? I have read reviews about it, and the general impression I got, was that the models are very good but the entire thing also seems FPS intensive. Can anybody give recommendations/views? Benjamin van Soldt Windows 10 64bit - i5-8600k @ 4.7GHz - ASRock Fatality K6 Z370 - EVGA GTX1070 SC 8GB VRAM - 16GB Corsair Vengeance LPX @ 3200MHz - Samsung 960 Evo SSD M.2 NVMe 500GB - 2x Samsung 860 Evo SSD 1TB (P3Dv4/5 drive) - Seagate Barracuda 2TB 7200RPM - Seasonic FocusPlus Gold 750W - Noctua DH-15S - Fractal Design Focus G (White) Case
October 21, 201015 yr Moderator Right now I have MyTraffic 5.3 (I think). That's very nice, because it gives you tons and tons of aircraft (also many Russian ones), and tons of flightplans for them to fly. However, I always stumble over one thing: I really dislike the actual airplane models. I think they are rather bland, and after using (and still using) WoAI's packages in FS9, going to MyTraffic is an enormous step down. The freeware models WoAI uses are much better, honestly, than the models included with MyTraffic. So here's my question: How does UT2 fare? I have read reviews about it, and the general impression I got, was that the models are very good but the entire thing also seems FPS intensive. Can anybody give recommendations/views?Actually I went from running all the WOAI packages which was around 350 plus if I remember right, to UT2 and would have to say that UT2 is way less of an FPS hit than WOAI was and the models look great. There are also a number of settings in the UT2 UI that let you adjust how far from you the AI will spawn, at what altitude minimum they will be visable, and the max amount to spaw at one time. There's a hot key in UT2 you can assign to completely shut off traffic if you want without having to exit the flight. When I shut off traffic on final to a large hub like KATL during the afternoon when traffic is near peak, I only gain about 3 to 4 FPS back, which tells me that its pretty efficient to only cost me 3 to 5 FPS at 100%.Like you probably know from reading these forums and being a reviewer, you will get many opinions on which AI pack is better or worse. For me UT2 is far superior to other AI packages otherwise I wouldn't own it. Ask another fellow here like Andydigital and he will say the opposite since he likes MTX.If your one of those guys though that wants every gate full 24/7 then you wont like it. If you want realistic flight plans, airliners following a flight plan rather than point a to point b, and airlines that fly to the airports they fly to in real life, then you will probably like it. The only caveat is that it only renders AI at an airport 20 minutes prior to departure and 20 minutes after arrival then it disappears. The good thing about this is that it will save you FPS by not over crowding the airport, but the bad part is that if you fly in the middle of the night, like between 12am and 5am, there wont be as much AI sitting around. There is a way to get around that if you want to use the UT2 Power Pack and import WOAI or other .bgl flight plans, but for me personally its not that much of an issue since I dont fly in the middle of the night anyway. One other thing to consider is that UT2 does include some cargo but not all. UPS and FedEx aren't included so you may have to fill in those with WOAI which is what I did. You can also import military AI and flight plans, but it doesn't come stock with military AI.Probably the best thing to do would be to get UT2 and try it out. If you dont like it Flight1 has a 30 day return policy and you get your money back. You can install it without having to uninstall MTX as long as you can disble or turn off the MTX traffic or its traffic bgl(s). Just make sure that if you try it and it seems like you not getting a lot of traffic in some areas, make sure to check the repaint in the UI and make sure the airlines your looking for have assigned paints to them, or you can assign a default paint for missing ones as well.Good luck with what ever you do. Avsim Board of Directors | Avsim Forums Moderator
October 21, 201015 yr I haven't tried MyTraffic so I cant do a comparison but I do have UT2 and I'm very happy with it.Lots more traffic that acts and looks more realistically and there is even a slight boost in FPS as a bonus! It's win win as far as I can tell. Give it a go.
October 21, 201015 yr i have to agree withe the above 2 posts, i have it, find a increase in performance, there are alot of tools that you can use in the program, the power pack is very good as well. and the new updates were just released including a summer 2010 schedule.
October 21, 201015 yr I like UT2. One of the unspoken advantages of UT2 is that the aircraft fly airways and observe altitude rules which means that there is some order in the sky. You'll find no AI IFR aircraft flying across your bow or each others with UT2. Whilst I realise and agree that aircraft on the ground at airports are the bread and butter of AI traffic, it is nice to fly an airway and watch other aircraft in the sky that are either flying in one's direction or directly toward one. I like switching on the ID labels when passing aircraft get close and reading their flight details. Following another aircraft in the same airway for lengthy periods of time can interesting. John Rig: Gigabyte B550 AORUS Master Motherboard, AMD Ryzen 7 3800XT CPU, 32GB DDR4 Ram, Gigabyte RTX 2070 Super Graphics, Samsung Odyssey wide view display (5120 x 1440 pixels) with VSYNC on.
October 21, 201015 yr I like switching on the ID labels when passing aircraft get close and reading their flight details. Following another aircraft in the same airway for lengthy periods of time can interesting.Mmmm. Sound s interesting, I think I'll give it a try.
October 22, 201015 yr Goes very well for me. Excellent! FSXWin7 Professional 4Core i7 GTX 470 1gig HDPeter Sydney Australia
October 22, 201015 yr Author I'll think I'll simply give it a spin next month, see how it works out for me. Thanks for the input, guys! Benjamin van Soldt Windows 10 64bit - i5-8600k @ 4.7GHz - ASRock Fatality K6 Z370 - EVGA GTX1070 SC 8GB VRAM - 16GB Corsair Vengeance LPX @ 3200MHz - Samsung 960 Evo SSD M.2 NVMe 500GB - 2x Samsung 860 Evo SSD 1TB (P3Dv4/5 drive) - Seagate Barracuda 2TB 7200RPM - Seasonic FocusPlus Gold 750W - Noctua DH-15S - Fractal Design Focus G (White) Case
October 22, 201015 yr I purchased UT2 but requested a refund.- The decision to fill up the airport or not needs to be strictly left to the users and the technological ability to display traffic. Because UT2 tends to drastically reduce the number of aircraft at airports that are usually packed such as JFK, ATL, etc, you tend to find yourself in very empty airports which kills the start and end of my flight for me.- Many airlines and cargo carriers are indeed missing, this adds to the sparceness and inaccuracies of airport traffic.The combination of the two outweighed the breakthrough inflight benefits of UT since I very seldom find myself colliding with AI aircraft while in flight. For me the ultimate AI packages are still the "rouge" AI complilations that have done the leg work of aggregating the best AI models and schedules into a single source. The latest "rouge" package blows both UT and TrafficX (horrific models) out of the water...but it is outside the realm of polite conversation for various reasons. If UT allowed the ability to keep the aircraft at the airports and added more carriers I'd look at it again.
October 22, 201015 yr I purchased UT2 but requested a refund.- The decision to fill up the airport or not needs to be strictly left to the users and the technological ability to display traffic. Because UT2 tends to drastically reduce the number of aircraft at airports that are usually packed such as JFK, ATL, etc, you tend to find yourself in very empty airports which kills the start and end of my flight for me.- Many airlines and cargo carriers are indeed missing, this adds to the sparceness and inaccuracies of airport traffic.The combination of the two outweighed the breakthrough inflight benefits of UT since I very seldom find myself colliding with AI aircraft while in flight. For me the ultimate AI packages are still the "rouge" AI complilations that have done the leg work of aggregating the best AI models and schedules into a single source. The latest "rouge" package blows both UT and TrafficX (horrific models) out of the water...but it is outside the realm of polite conversation for various reasons. If UT allowed the ability to keep the aircraft at the airports and added more carriers I'd look at it again.Excuse me, what is a "rouge" AI compilation/package?PFL
October 22, 201015 yr Moderator If UT allowed the ability to keep the aircraft at the airports and added more carriers I'd look at it again.Well, it's too late now since you already refunded it, but you can use the Power Pack tool they have to import new airlines and schedules if you wish. For example in the case of UPS or FedEx, you could download a flight plan for either of these carriers and import it into UT2 and then assign paints to it as long as you already have the models and paints for the said airline or cargo carrier. You can also do the same if you want to import military stuff as well by importing MWAI models/paints and flight plans if you wish.By doing this it will also get around UT2's 20 minute feature which makes the a/c appear or disappear prior to departure or after arrival.Excuse me, what is a "rouge" AI compilation/package?PFLI think he meant "rogue". It's probably the one that starts with an S and ends with an I? Avsim Board of Directors | Avsim Forums Moderator
October 22, 201015 yr Author I purchased UT2 but requested a refund.- The decision to fill up the airport or not needs to be strictly left to the users and the technological ability to display traffic. Because UT2 tends to drastically reduce the number of aircraft at airports that are usually packed such as JFK, ATL, etc, you tend to find yourself in very empty airports which kills the start and end of my flight for me.- Many airlines and cargo carriers are indeed missing, this adds to the sparceness and inaccuracies of airport traffic.The combination of the two outweighed the breakthrough inflight benefits of UT since I very seldom find myself colliding with AI aircraft while in flight. For me the ultimate AI packages are still the "rouge" AI complilations that have done the leg work of aggregating the best AI models and schedules into a single source. The latest "rouge" package blows both UT and TrafficX (horrific models) out of the water...but it is outside the realm of polite conversation for various reasons. If UT allowed the ability to keep the aircraft at the airports and added more carriers I'd look at it again.Well yes, but if that would have been a flawless option, then I would have simply copied over all my AI from FS9 to FSX. Problem is, it is not flawless. Using FS9 AI, I'll have to deactivate aircraft shadows or otherwise the AI may be invisible at some airports. And no, I am not going to recompile all my traffic with strictly FSX AI models. Not only is that a lot of work, but I'd miss out on lots and lots of good models and even more airlines for which there simply are no models or liveries yet. So, in my opinion, a self-compiled, fully featured AI traffic system is not feasible in FSX. Benjamin van Soldt Windows 10 64bit - i5-8600k @ 4.7GHz - ASRock Fatality K6 Z370 - EVGA GTX1070 SC 8GB VRAM - 16GB Corsair Vengeance LPX @ 3200MHz - Samsung 960 Evo SSD M.2 NVMe 500GB - 2x Samsung 860 Evo SSD 1TB (P3Dv4/5 drive) - Seagate Barracuda 2TB 7200RPM - Seasonic FocusPlus Gold 750W - Noctua DH-15S - Fractal Design Focus G (White) Case
October 22, 201015 yr Theres are demo for the Fort Lauderdale, Florida (KFLL) and Stuggart, Germany (EDDS)area. I haven't purchased ut2 but it is on my super want list! :( not only for the ai traffic but I rather have in easier ui interface were I can import stuff easer. and of course the native fsx aircraft models.http://www.flight1.com/download.asp?id=ut2demo Cesar Martinez AMD 7800X3D RTX5080 NZXT N7 B650E | G.Skill 32GB DDR5 Samsung 980 Pro 2TB | Crucial MX500 (2×) | Crucial P3 Plus Monitor: Philips Evnia 34M2C6500 QD-OLED
October 22, 201015 yr - The decision to fill up the airport or not needs to be strictly left to the users and the technological ability to display traffic. Because UT2 tends to drastically reduce the number of aircraft at airports that are usually packed such as JFK, ATL, etc, you tend to find yourself in very empty airports which kills the start and end of my flight for me.Yea, I've noticed it too, why is that? I can't say I care too much about it and put up with it, I always wanted to know why? KORD tends to get pretty empty, especially in the late evening hours. Jacek G. Ryzen 5800X3D | Asus RTX4090 OC | 64gb DDR4 3600 | Asus ROG Strix X570E | HX1000w | Fractal Design Torrent RGB | AOC AGON 49' Curved QHD |
October 22, 201015 yr Yea, I've noticed it too, why is that? I can't say I care too much about it and put up with it, I always wanted to know why? KORD tends to get pretty empty, especially in the late evening hours.It uses real world schedules and only launches planes about 20 minutes before a scheduled departure. If nothing is scheduled, nothing is there Jay
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