December 3, 201015 yr Hi guys, I´ve heared lots of good things aubout the PMDG Js 41. It seems to be an good and realistic made, little regional prop. I consider to buy it, but I want to know, wheather this might work on my system properly. Therefore I want to ask how it behaves in the FPS. Is is very heavy on FPS or not? You can read my spec´s down below, so could someone say, whether with my system it will work or is it too weak? Best regards, Steffen Fight time: NGX 737-700: 37,0h; -800: 47,2h
December 3, 201015 yr Moderator I think it maybe a touch on the heavy side for your rig as you put it, but it depends on how aggresive your scenery complexity slider is set, how much AI your running and of course what type of airports you plan on flying it into, ie. major hubs or small regionals.The good news is that the J41 comes with a configuration manager that lets your turn off the right side/co-pilot EHSI and EADI so you can pick up some FPS by doing that as well as turning down the guage refresh rates a touch. You can also use the config mamager to turn off some exterior model features like icing and get rig of the passgengers in the virtual cabin, which you will probably want to do anyway since the virtual cabin isn't very pretty in this bird. After all said adjustments are made you should be able to run it ok, as long as your not planning on flying it into EDDF with 100%, then you may get hit rather hard on FPS with the CPU speed your running now. Believe it or not, I get about the same if not slightly better FPS in their 747 compared to the J41, with all settings being about the same.All in all its a great plane though. I wish I could sell you mine at a slight discount since I rarely every fly it. It's not that I dont like it, but I just dont get as much enjoyment out of it as I do the PMDG 747 and LDS 767, and once PMDG releases the 737NGX, I will probably hardly fly any of my other addon planes. Avsim Board of Directors | Avsim Forums Moderator
December 3, 201015 yr I don't think even PMDG would claim it is easy on frame rates, but then again, if you want the most realistic turboprop for FS, that's where it is at. Your system would certainly run it, but don't expect to have all the detail on full throttle graphics-wise if you want high frame rates.Considering its fidelity to the real thing, it's actually a bit of a bargain price-wise, so it'll hardly break your heart or your bank to check it out, even if you find it is too tough on frame rates for your preferred graphics settings. So in that sense, yes, it certainly is worth buying.Al Alan Bradbury Check out my youtube flight sim videos: Here
December 3, 201015 yr Get the JS41 and FS2Crew Voice Commander and it's about as good as it gets.But you may have to turn the scenery detail down to keep up the FPS.
December 4, 201015 yr I have only begun using the JS41 but I can tell you it's worth every penny. It's a thoroughly in depth simulation, and above all PMDG's documentation and support is top notch.That being said, it is VERY heavy on framerate. Even on my PC (core i7 950 overclocked to 4ghz, 6gb DDR3, GTX 470) it crushes my framerates to the high teens/low 20's if I have all the sliders maxed and all the PMDG options maxed (whereas as soon as I load a plane like the Carenado C185 my framerates soar in the 70's). However when I set the sliders down (particularly the mesh complexity/detail and cloud draw distance) and lower the refresh rates for the cockpit gauges I'm able to get a solid 30fps in it with no really noticeable difference in fidelity.In other words, you may not get full enjoyment out of the JS41 on your system unless you are one of those who doesn't mind lower framerates (some people don't seem to care to much).
December 4, 201015 yr I highly recommend it, and for one reason specifically. It is the only aircraft I have that makes me feel like I'm in the real thing. I realize I'm staring at a computer screen, but PMDG made the VC so detailed, you become totally immersed in it. There's also a sound assigned for every knob, switch, etc..that many other developers ignore. Something as basic as adjusting the barometer setting has a nice tick, tick with each movement. The combination of the visual and audio makes this a superb simulation. As for frames, adjust the configuration settings as mentioned above, and you should be fine. Curt Branch
December 4, 201015 yr Hi guys, I´ve heared lots of good things aubout the PMDG Js 41. It seems to be an good and realistic made, little regional prop. I consider to buy it, but I want to know, wheather this might work on my system properly. Therefore I want to ask how it behaves in the FPS. Is is very heavy on FPS or not? You can read my spec´s down below, so could someone say, wheather with my system it will work or is it too weak?If you do get it, don't be discouraged the first time you crank it up. Dialing back the settings in the config setting add a whole lot of frames (for me at least) with not a lot of trade in image quality. Jeff Hepburn
December 6, 201015 yr By any means, I cannot defy the answers of the people above. This is an absolute must have for all turboprop fans! Even I won't wait for 3 months just to get the almost-rivaling CBFS Jetstream announced two months ago.Dave. "It goes without saying that when survival is threatened, struggles erupt between peoples, and unfortunate wars between nations result." -HIDEKI TOJO
December 6, 201015 yr OK, I think it's worth letting you know my PC specification, and also the settings that I use. I have the PMDG Jetstream 4100, and I get decent (flyable) framerates almost everywhere.Asus P5K-SE motherboardIntel Core 2 Quad Q9550 CPU @ 3.3Ghz4GB PC2-8500 RAM512MB GeForce 9800GTSoundBlaster X-Fi Extreme Music500GB SATA-II hard diskWindows Vista64I run FSX at 1280x1024x32bit resolution on a 17" Hyundai Imagequest L72D monitor, using the following settings...Level of Detail Radius: LARGEMesh Complexity: 100Mesh Resolution: 1mTexture Resolution: 7cmWater Effects: Med 2.xLand Detail Textures: YESScenery Complexity: Extremely DenseAutogen Density: Extremely DenseGround Scenery Shadows: NOSpecial effects Detail: MEDIUMCloud Draw Distance: 60 milesDetailed Clouds: YESCloud Coverage Density: LOWHigh Resolution 3D Virtual Cockpit: YESFiltering: ANISOTROPIC (8x)Anti-aliasing: YES (4x)Global Texture Resolution: VERY HIGHLens Flare: NOLight Bloom: NOAdvanced Animations: NOI fly exclusively in the UK, and have the following software installed....Horizon VFR Generation X Version 2 England and Wales (Volumes 1/2/3)Horizon VFR Scotland (Volumes 4/5)UK2000 VFR Airfields (Volumes 1/2/3)UK2000 Xtreme Airports (Heathrow/Gatwick/Stansted/Manchester/Birmingham/Bristol)VFR London XEarth Simulations Alderney/Isles of ScillyTreescapes UK (Volumes 1/2/3) - advanced tree autogenPMDG BAe Jetstream 4100Flight1 Cessna Citation MustangRealAir Beechcraft Duke B60Flight1 Ultimate Traffic 2The only area that I have problems with framerates in either the PMDG Jetstream 4100 or Flight1 Mustang is around London. Framerates using the settings above are as low as 10fps with Heathrow Xtreme and VFR London X installed, and the stuttering (due to texture loading) can be a real problem. Disabling VFR London X obviously helps a great deal, but framerates are still jerky when using Heathrow Xtreme (partly because there are several other airfields plus lots of autogen trees in the area). Nevertheless, the plane is flyable everywhere else, including other highly detailed Xtreme airports like Gatwick and Manchester. Christopher Low AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D CPU / 64GB DDR5-6000 RAM / 12GB Nvidia RTX 4070 Super GPU / Gigabyte X870E Aorus Elite Wifi 7 / 1+2TB Samsung Evo Plus M2 Nvme UK2000 Beta Tester
December 6, 201015 yr I have same rig as requester and I have no problems running the J41. Absolute briliant.
December 6, 201015 yr Author OK, I think it's worth letting you know my PC specification, and also the settings that I use. I have the PMDG Jetstream 4100, and I get decent (flyable) framerates almost everywhere.Asus P5K-SE motherboardIntel Core 2 Quad Q9550 CPU @ 3.3Ghz4GB PC2-8500 RAM512MB GeForce 9800GTSoundBlaster X-Fi Extreme Music500GB SATA-II hard diskWindows Vista64I run FSX at 1280x1024x32bit resolution on a 17" Hyundai Imagequest L72D monitor, using the following settings...Level of Detail Radius: LARGEMesh Complexity: 100Mesh Resolution: 1mTexture Resolution: 7cmWater Effects: Med 2.xLand Detail Textures: YESScenery Complexity: Extremely DenseAutogen Density: Extremely DenseGround Scenery Shadows: NOSpecial effects Detail: MEDIUMCloud Draw Distance: 60 milesDetailed Clouds: YESCloud Coverage Density: LOWHigh Resolution 3D Virtual Cockpit: YESFiltering: ANISOTROPIC (8x)Anti-aliasing: YES (4x)Global Texture Resolution: VERY HIGHLens Flare: NOLight Bloom: NOAdvanced Animations: NOI fly exclusively in the UK, and have the following software installed....Horizon VFR Generation X Version 2 England and Wales (Volumes 1/2/3)Horizon VFR Scotland (Volumes 4/5)UK2000 VFR Airfields (Volumes 1/2/3)UK2000 Xtreme Airports (Heathrow/Gatwick/Stansted/Manchester/Birmingham/Bristol)VFR London XEarth Simulations Alderney/Isles of ScillyTreescapes UK (Volumes 1/2/3) - advanced tree autogenPMDG BAe Jetstream 4100Flight1 Cessna Citation MustangRealAir Beechcraft Duke B60Flight1 Ultimate Traffic 2The only area that I have problems with framerates in either the PMDG Jetstream 4100 or Flight1 Mustang is around London. Framerates using the settings above are as low as 10fps with Heathrow Xtreme and VFR London X installed, and the stuttering (due to texture loading) can be a real problem. Disabling VFR London X obviously helps a great deal, but framerates are still jerky when using Heathrow Xtreme (partly because there are several other airfields plus lots of autogen trees in the area). Nevertheless, the plane is flyable everywhere else, including other highly detailed Xtreme airports like Gatwick and Manchester.Thanks for this detailed informations.Your system has only 300Mhz more, so I think CPU power won´t not be any problem. I have to admit that I also own the Realair Beech Duke and get mostly 30-40 frames in Canada with almost the same settings in FSX like you, so I don´t see problems, but I wasn´t sure. Asking is allways better than spending 40 € and noticing that it won´t work properly. Best regards, Steffen Fight time: NGX 737-700: 37,0h; -800: 47,2h
December 6, 201015 yr The framerate with the RealAir Duke is better than either the PMDG Jetstream 4100 or Flight1 Mustang, but you should be OK. Are you using any scenery addons? Do you use photo scenery, or standard terrain textures with heavy autogen? Christopher Low AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D CPU / 64GB DDR5-6000 RAM / 12GB Nvidia RTX 4070 Super GPU / Gigabyte X870E Aorus Elite Wifi 7 / 1+2TB Samsung Evo Plus M2 Nvme UK2000 Beta Tester
December 6, 201015 yr Author The framerate with the RealAir Duke is better than either the PMDG Jetstream 4100 or Flight1 Mustang, but you should be OK. Are you using any scenery addons? Do you use photo scenery, or standard terrain textures with heavy autogen?Actually only standard terrain with heavy autogen and 85% traffic (WOAI and default). I have only Frrankfurt X as scenery addon, cause I don´t know wheather to switch entirely from Fs9 to FSX, so Fs9 has most addons, but I´m going to expand my FSX addons if I have enough money. Best regards, Steffen Fight time: NGX 737-700: 37,0h; -800: 47,2h
December 7, 201015 yr If I turn down the refresh rate in the config program that comes with the J41 and disable the co pilots side PFDs then I can get a FPS higher than the PMDGMD11. It feels smoother too. The aircraft does take some getting used to and you will have many tries at starting the engines before you master them. *They catch fire if you dont start them properly just like the real thing.PS If you do get FSCREW for it either voice or button edition you will have some help to make sure you are doing it properly. Its well worth the money and will not affect your FPS at all. You will need to set up a microphone and run though the microsoft voice training but in the end you will have a copilot that can set the aircraft up ie handle flaps and autopilot setting and much more. Andrew Simmons Intel i7 950+Corsair H70. 6 Gig ram Kingston Hyperx 1600Mhz ASUS GTX560 Ti (900mhz core/1800Shader/2100Memory) 1T Cavier Black HD + 1T Cavier Green for backup jobs. Win7 64 Bit Asus X58A-UD3R (Rev2) OCZ 600w PSU DA-20 Katana Diamond (Aerosoft) A2A B377 (Captain of the Ship) Flightsim Labs ConcordeX. TM Warthog/TIR5/REX2/ASE/Topcat/RadarContact4/FSX PMDG MD-11/J41/Old737NG/747-400x /IFly737FSX/A2A Spitfire/A2A B-17 Accusim
December 7, 201015 yr Author PS If you do get FSCREW for it either voice or button edition you will have some help to make sure you are doing it properly. Its well worth the money and will not affect your FPS at all. You will need to set up a microphone and run though the microsoft voice training but in the end you will have a copilot that can set the aircraft up ie handle flaps and autopilot setting and much more.I know that FSCREW is a good help, but as far as I know It makes use of the windows speech recognition and that´s the problem. As I´m from Germany my system has only the german speech recognition package installed and I don´t know where to get the english one. So my pc only understands german and that´s a big problem. Best regards, Steffen Fight time: NGX 737-700: 37,0h; -800: 47,2h
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