too easy to sell expensive books before offering a release date of the 737 NGX.First see and then buygiodoca

The truth is that you really don't even deserve to fly a simulation like the PMDG 737NGX without ordering a complete set of these beautiful Boeing/PMDG manuals and studying them for about three months before the aircraft is turned over to you for a check-ride. With all the work that PMDG has put into the accuracy of this aircraft, that's the way it should really be done.Bob

Does anyone know if to the UK additional import tax apply?Thankyou

Does anyone know if to the UK  additional import tax apply?Thankyou

I read somewhere last night that books aren't subject to import duty. Just do a google search for import tax or import tax calculator

they are far too complex and therefore next to useless for all but the very serious simmers out there. Golden rule of business - Know Your Customer. This is total bollocks for the day they are released :

You assumed these manuals and aircraft are aimed at the 'F-lite' market?I spit on you. :PNot sure what world you're living in, but I can promise such a world where pilots need not read manuals before rocking up in uniform to the RHS of a commercial jet does not exist.

Lol, who does this guy think PMDG's customers are?

get them printed in China like everyone else.

I'm not sure it would change things a lot, maybe cheaper but as for the quality, and to then maybe get them back to the US and then send it back to us might not be the most cost effective way of doing things.

therefore next to useless for all but the very serious simmers out there.

That is the point PMDG is not making some aircraft you just sit in put the throttles to maximum and then fly, and by implementing all that they have announced, which is from my understanding everything but the WX radar due to FS limitations, you need to know whats the point of this or that system, what's going on within the plane, else no matter the automation aboard it would be useless if you just cannot fly it without them, and in fact thats where simulation becomes interesting when something happens and that you have to react accordingly, to get the plane safely on the ground. And it is maybe a lot of complexity and I will have no pretention of knowing everything by heart, but it is not that hard to get through everything basiscs principle, although I'd like I'll probably never keep all those things like HYD system 2 powers this and that, and so on.

There will be a digital manual with the ngx, wouldn't it?

I'm pretty sure Mr. Randazzo wrote somewhere else on these forums that PMDG is still negotiating with Boeing about digitalizing the manuals. However with manuals worth over $300 I hardly believe they will come with the NGX. Of course I'm sure they'll have the normal manual with the product with regards to installation, setup in FSX etc. just like the rest of thier products.

Exactly!Just for the record, there's a 737NG on the flight sim x aircraft list which may fit your taste, Anthony.I'm tryina be helpful here.

Don't give me that immature crap. No 'real' pilot doing a type conversion sits down and reads the set of manuals cover to cover - they may do a whole pile of CBT with the manuals in front of them, but I assure you they don't lie in bed at night and intensively read them. I've been flying since Sublogic Flight Simulator in 1977 and recognize that PMDG produces a very good product so don't be an &@($*. All I'm saying is - If they can afford to discount the package on day one, then they are too expensive individually to start with. BTW, I take back what I said about showing me where to find the individual manuals - I found them.Anthony

Don't give me that immature crap. No 'real' pilot doing a type conversion sits down and reads the set of manuals cover to cover - they may do a whole pile of CBT with the manuals in front of them, but I assure you they don't lie in bed at night and intensively read them. I've been flying since Sublogic Flight Simulator in 1977 and recognize that PMDG produces a very good product so don't be an &@($*. All I'm saying is - If they can afford to discount the package on day one, then they are too expensive individually to start with. BTW, I take back what I said about showing me where to find the individual manuals - I found them.Anthony

Well, obviously you're not a 'real' pilot. If you think the guys who fly the packed Boeing machines out there skim through the manuals, then you really need to go back to the Sub Logic days.

 

 

What a crock. Show me where I can buy individual NGX manuals at the moment.

Are you kidding me? Did you even look at the store? The individual pieces are there for purchase separately. The discount on the full set is accurate.You're going to get banned here if you continue this line of accusation against us - there's absolutely nothing true about what you're saying.Your decades of MSFS experience give you absolutely zero credibility in talking about what real pilots do to prepare for training. Do you realize these manual sets were put together by someone who is a 747-400 type rating holder and has gone through the real training process?

What a crock. Show me where I can buy individual NGX manuals at the moment. They are tricksters who don't actually know that 90% of their customers are under 18 and couldn't afford these prices. Simple answer...get them printed in China like everyone else. To say that 'real pilots' need to read the manuals weeks before they get in the seat is arrogance - I have MD11 manuals and they are far too complex and therefore next to useless for all but the very serious simmers out there. Golden rule of business - Know Your Customer. This is total bollocks for the day they are released : PMDG 737-NGX Chief Pilot's Flight Manual SetPrice $329.99List Price: $406.93You Save: $76.94 (19%)The PMDG 737-NGX Chief Pilot's Flight Manual Set includes all of the following:Anthony Vincent

Ahahahaha everything thing you said is...... wrong. Can be bought individually. Where's your 90% figure from. PMDG are doing us a huge favour not printing in china. Us being those who want a super realistic simulation experience with real manuals. No arrogance. And if the MD's manuals are to hard for you than what's the problem because you aren't being forced to buy these. These guys luckily aren't like all other companies just for the business. There here because they know customers want the best (best flight simulation). So to sum all up attacking PMDG will never prevail.

What a crock. Show me where I can buy individual NGX manuals at the moment. They are tricksters who don't actually know that 90% of their customers are under 18 and couldn't afford these prices. Simple answer...get them printed in China like everyone else. To say that 'real pilots' need to read the manuals weeks before they get in the seat is arrogance - I have MD11 manuals and they are far too complex and therefore next to useless for all but the very serious simmers out there. Golden rule of business - Know Your Customer. This is total bollocks for the day they are released : PMDG 737-NGX Chief Pilot's Flight Manual SetPrice $329.99List Price: $406.93You Save: $76.94 (19%)The PMDG 737-NGX Chief Pilot's Flight Manual Set includes all of the following:Anthony Vincent

#1: Most of us are serious simmirs who WILL spend the time to read the mauals.#2. I would say only about 30%, if that even (including me) are under 18, and are perfectly ok getting them as christmas/birthday gifts.#3. Get them printed in China... And pay $50 a book for shipping to the US.#4. PMDG does know their customers. While not the most active on the forum, they are very generous on their support tickets.#5. (this one'l kill) Flight Crew Training Manual, Quick Reference Handbook, Flight Crew Operating Manuals Vol 1 & 2. All availible individually.

I have nearly 8000 posts in this forum, Robert has several thousand as well - how you can say that's "not active in the forum" is beyond me.Btw everyone, there's no "Anthony Vincent" in our customer database... makes you wonder.

I have nearly 8000 posts in this forum, Robert has several thousand as well - how you can say that's "not active in the forum" is beyond me.

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