Hi all,I am finaly deciding to buy a payware aircraft. Probably the flight 1 ATR72. Should i run into any problems installing it, as friends have told me before that they couldn't install it on a different drive, and i'm curious as my fsx directory is located on drive D:, not Drive C:, when it automatically installs, (more space needed on drive C)I don't want to waste my hard earned money!Any thoughts and opinions welcome + other aircraft recomendations. (the pmdg jetstream looks nice :D)Regards

Hi all,I am finaly deciding to buy a payware aircraft. Probably the flight 1 ATR72. Should i run into any problems installing it, as friends have told me before that they couldn't install it on a different drive, and i'm curious as my fsx directory is located on drive D:, not Drive C:, when it automatically installs, (more space needed on drive C)I don't want to waste my hard earned money!Any thoughts and opinions welcome + other aircraft recomendations. (the pmdg jetstream looks nice :D)Regards

HelloThe Flight1 ATR was good in its day but is an FS9 aircraft ported over to FSX.For performance reasons alone I would not buy an old portover at this stage.The PMDG Jetstream is much nicer IMHO and is a true FSX model.

Agreed, don't buy a port over... (port is anything produced for FS9, and not compiled with the FSD SDK)I don't have the PMDG J41 but I've heard great things about it. Be sure you have a decent PC though, like most newer planes it requires a fairly recent CPU to run well.The Flight1 Citation Mustang is another excellent product. Same problem though regarding performance...I personally like the RealAir Duke - much better on performance than the above two plus they're working on a turbine version. That will probably go about the same speed as your proposed ATR:http://realairsimulations.com/duke09/intro.php?page=duke09_introTurbine Mod info:http://realairsimulations.com/duket10/screenshots08.php?page=duket_screenshotsAnother personal favorite is the Orbx Lancair IV-P - will get you 280-300 TAS at altitude :)http://fullterrain.com/product_lancair.htmlOf course if you're into big iron, perhaps the PMDG MD11/747 or LevelD 767 or Quality Wings 757 would interest you?Lots of choices :(

Here are a few recommendations based on different types of aircraft:A2A Simulations Spitfire w/ Accu-sim RealAir DukeLotus Sim L-39Vertical Reality Simulations F/A-18PMDG JS-41PMDG MD-11

I can also not recomend the Aerosoft Airbus X high enough, great looking model too.

I can also not recomend the Aerosoft Airbus X high enough, great looking model too.

Not the safest of bets.. This particular product has been beset by problems. It may work ok for you, but judging by the feedback on the support forum a lot of people have problems with it. It certainly put me off. It may be better to avoid this one for the time being.Personally, I'd choose any payware aircraft marketed by Flight1. And there are plenty to choose from - including the ATR. You have a 30 day no-quibble refund to protect you, so you can afford to buy and try. Personally I'd recommend the Mustang or the BN-2 Islander.Ian

PMDG 747 this is all...

Captain Sim 727 is awesome!Get the freeware team KBT Lockheed Electra L-188. It's my second favorite. Very nice VC and Virtual passenger cabin also.

Since you were going for the Flight1 ATR, I'd say take the PMDG J41. it's in all respect a very nice aircraft, but with one problem: if you like flying airlines that currently operate this aircraft, you have somewhat of a problem: hardly any airline operates this plane. I cna also really recommend the Flight1 BN2 Islander. it hasn't got fancy avionics like the J41 or ATR, but I cna safely say that I find it to be one of the very best aircraft developed for FSX: it has a beautiful model, great performance, awesome sound (really, one of the very best packages I know of!), and cool extra features (like a vibrating camera on takeoff and landing. love that!).

I would also go for the Beech Duke. It´s an absolutely lovely modeled plane with probably the best VC I´ve ever seen. The performance is really outstanding with its two Textron Lycoming 380HP engines, but with the Turbine version it will screw up everything. Two PT6A 550HP turboprops on this littlething it will be the best plane ever seen. Bet it!

Another vote for the Captain Sim 727. Love this plane!

If you have the CPU HorsePower under your PC's hood,The RealAir Duke or F1 Mustang are exceptional GA Aircraft.If you like "The Heavies" PMDG sets the Standard,The QualityWings 757 is really nice also.If you crave a Warbird The new A2A WOPIII SpitFire is the most immersive aircraft you'll find. IMHO.I think you can't go wrong with any of the choices mentioned above.

Just to remind you guys that the fellow Captain was up to buy the ATR while now everybody joins in with his very personal recommendations, being way off from the original type of plane.Of course, it could well be that he's open to every tip, but from ATR to 747 to single mot GA planes really is a wide range, isn't it? How about the "buy them all!" tip then? :Silly:I join in on the already stated PMDG J41 which should come close to the actual type he had in mind, being a small airliner with twin props. The detail is nice, system depth is too and Ryan of course is correct, you shouldn't run the oldest PC there, but a fairly modern one will do.

Another vote for the Captain Sim 727. Love this plane!

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Hi,With regard to the OP I have found the Flight1 ATR72-500 to be an excellent aircraft to fly with a nice flight model, good looking VC and 2D cockpit, and well supported by Navigraph in terms of FMC updates.Sadly I would not actually recommend the purchase because as others have noted it is a port from FS9 and there are quite a few issues outstanding that Flight 1 has no intention of correcting as this is a legacy product at this point. If you are willing to put up with the issues (freely viewable on the F1 site) then by all means go for it. A couple of notable issues include:-Icky frame rates under FSX with relatively decent systems.-CTD's related to using the FMS in the VC (semi-workaround is to switch over to the 2D cockpit to access the FMS during flight-but even that sometimes has issues).Of course you can try the thing under the F1 30-day guarantee but thats barely enough time to get used to flying the thing (its a fairly complex aircraft to learn properly) and the support responses to any issues will now generally be along the lines of:-"have you loaded over the default Cessna flight"-"would you like your money back"Now bear in mind this is not a rant at Flight 1. I have a couple of their FSX-native products and they work fine and remain supported. If you want the plane get it-just be aware it is a legacy product that F1 will happily charge full price for without mentioning that support for the product is now essentially dead.On the other hand-should you wish to try a jet model-I can highly recommend the Quality Wings 757 package. For a little more than the F1 ATR you get a ton of FSX-native models, loads of paints and options for both engine and cockpit (retro and original VC/2D panels), no unexplained CTD's, and outstanding continual technical support. Does what it says on the tin essentially.Also there are a couple of excellent freeware turboprops you can download including a great Twin Otter and PC-12. Yeah they may be FS9 ports but they work great under FSX and can give you a good idea of what you may want to buy payware-wise later on.Anyway-if you have your heart set on the ATR (as I did) go for it-just be aware of the potential issues under FSX. I hope that helps a bit.CheersTed