Hi I have the fsx system ready to gowith Pmdg 747 400 installed all I'm interested in is flying this aircraft for now can anyone advise me as to wot I will need ie yoke, throttle quadrant, pedals I have seen the poor comments on saitek and ch stuff so would like to go more high end . I have a big desk to attach everything basically this I want to last so better to buy the quality items at the start thanksWayne h

Fair enough, but I've been using the USB CH Yoke/Pedals/Throttles combo for years without a hitch. You would save a lot of money...Cheers,- jahman.

Hi,I use the following without any regret.1. Precision Flight Controls Jetliner Column yoke. http://www.flypfc.com/index.php?mn_id=29&dn_id=52. VRAC Boeing Throttle Quad. http://www.vraircraftstore.citymax.com/vrac_products.html3. Revolution Simproducts Rudder pedals. http://www.revolution-simproducts.com/B737_Rudder_pedals.htmlAll outstanding products.

$2000 rudder pedals better be outstanding.

$2000 rudder pedals better be outstanding.

It's "only" $1399 :-)Really, Mike's setup is beautiful if you have that kind of money. I'm just a poor guy with my poor saitek, but since you mentioned that all you want is fly the 747, let me tell you this. I found out that on my normal, usual flight I pull the yoke for few seconds until reaching AP-on altitude. On final app I turn off AP at say 500 feet and use the yoke again for few seconds. The point is: no matter how long the flight takes, I use the yoke less than one minute. Is it worth spending a fortune on it for heavy-iron flying?I find yoke&pedals perfect for GA, bush flying etc. but for heavies? (Of course, pedals considerably improve taxiing.)Daniel

I use Saitek yoke, 2 TQ's pedals and a CH TQ. All work just fine.Jim D.

It's "only" $1399 :-)Really, Mike's setup is beautiful if you have that kind of money. I'm just a poor guy with my poor saitek, but since you mentioned that all you want is fly the 747, let me tell you this. I found out that on my normal, usual flight I pull the yoke for few seconds until reaching AP-on altitude. On final app I turn off AP at say 500 feet and use the yoke again for few seconds. The point is: no matter how long the flight takes, I use the yoke less than one minute. Is it worth spending a fortune on it for heavy-iron flying?I find yoke&pedals perfect for GA, bush flying etc. but for heavies? (Of course, pedals considerably improve taxiing.)Daniel

that might be true for you, but I fly my PMDG pure hand flown and manual trimming, no AP what so ever, not even for ILS, I capture the ILS and align the plane on the ILS/GS manually based on the PFD/NFD output. that Is way my flight I pick are no longer then 45Min , 1 hour Max. I need a good yoke.

I have the PFC column yoke and rudder pedals that I picked up a year ago for $ 1195.00 and wouldn't trade them for anything. They are by far light-years ahead of CH or Saitek. I wanted hardware that would halfway simulate the real yoke and rudders on the 737 NG since I've got several hours in the real simulator in Atlanta, Ga. Believe me, there is no comparison and I totally agree with Mike above....:)Look for 'Specials' on the PFC website and you'll find the pricing I've quoted above.http://www.flypfc.com/index.php?f_id=3Regards,jen noulet

I have the PFC column yoke and rudder pedals that I picked up a year ago for $ 1195.00 and wouldn't trade them for anything. They are by far light-years ahead of CH or Saitek. I wanted hardware that would halfway simulate the real yoke and rudders on the 737 NG since I've got several hours in the real simulator in Atlanta, Ga. Believe me, there is no comparison and I totally agree with Mike above....:)Look for 'Specials' on the PFC website and you'll find the pricing I've quoted above.http://www.flypfc.com/index.php?f_id=3Regards,jen noulet

in what way is it different then the CH/Saitek yoke?

Hi I have the fsx system ready to gowith Pmdg 747 400 installed all I'm interested in is flying this aircraft for now can anyone advise me as to wot I will need ie yoke, throttle quadrant, pedals I have seen the poor comments on saitek and ch stuff so would like to go more high end . I have a big desk to attach everything basically this I want to last so better to buy the quality items at the start thanksWayne h

The new Saitek Combat Pedals are actually really good build quality...Just ignore the word "combat" and you've got a super unit... got mine from Amazon.com, free shipping.

I've had CH & Saitek Yokes over the years & now have a Precision Flight Controls SAAB Desktop which I find stands head & sholders above the other two. And so it should for the money. The main difference I found was the smoothness in elevator movement. Both the CH & Saitek would grab when operated one handed as is usually done in real life when landing making a smooth flare difficult. The PFC is silky smooth. Has helped my landings quite a bit. I have had several Saiteks (replacements) & all three eventually squeeked in the roll axis. Also the switches in the PFC have a real quality feel about them although only having had the unit for a little under two years can't really comment on their longivety.For pedals I use the new Saitek Combat Rudder pedals & find them very good. Much more realistic than the previous version. Havn't owned the CH but tried a set & didn't like them as they were far too close to each other & didn't feel anything like the real deal.For throttles I'm still using the Saiteks (two sets) which to date have served me well & I'm quite happy with them. Did have a CH quad which after a while lost the physical indent for "reverse thrust" & to get it back I had to keep opening the unit to tighten down a screw which only fixed the problem for a short time.I believe if you can afford it & are happy to part with the cash it could save you money in the long run. Something like the PFC product should last you a lifetime if looked after.

Hi,I've had my PFC yoke for a few years, purchased it when it was first released. That's when they use to come with a separate fifteen pin single throttle attachment that plugged into the PFC unit. The throttle was nothing fancy, it served its purpose and was good for a Cessna type aircraft.Although the yoke itself will last a "lifetime", parts (rocker switches, push buttons, controller board, wiring) will eventually need to be replaced. My PFC yoke has already been sent back (expensive repair) to PFC for a complete overhaul. I had to replace the controller board and a worn rocker switch. Since they improved/changed the controller board, I had to replace the wiring harness. Since I was doing all this work, I decided to replace everything. I basically ended up with a new yoke. When the PFC yoke was returned, I found out that the new controller board no longer had a game adapter and the PFC throttle attachment would no longer work. Not that big of a deal really, I intended on purchasing a Boeing throttle quad within a few weeks, but I should of been notified of this change and the loss of their throttle prior to the repair/shipping of the unit.All-in-All its an outstanding product, a purchase I've never regretted.

I believe if you can afford it & are happy to part with the cash it could save you money in the long run. Something like the PFC product should last you a lifetime if looked after.

The new Saitek Combat Pedals are actually really good build quality...

Just an illustration - my new pedals:

How's the build quality of SCP's compared to other pedals available? Do the toe brakes have a deadzone at start of movement range, which can't be eliminated?

Iv'e only owned Saitek's & my first set are four years or more old & still work fine. My adult son uses them occasionally. The build of the Combat ones is better than the previous with both the pedals themselves plus the panel in the front being metal. This makes them both heavier & sturdier. As they are relatively new can't comment yet on how they last but based on the previous set they should be pretty good.Havn't noticed any dead zone at the start of the brakes range however I use a registered version of FSUIPC with which I adjust them. Iv'e found this great for reducing the initial harshness of the brakes as you can adjust the effectiveness during the range of travel. I have mine so the braking is reduced at the start of travel & increases as I push the brakes on.