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Yesterday I downloaded and installed Duxford, which to anyone who hasn't visited the real thing, this is the nearest you will get to fly from this famous WW2 airfield. A work of art, thank you. Now, it is interesting with all the postings of FS9 versus FSX that the current state of downloads 7 Nov @ 1510hrs GMT is FS9_ 743, FSX_757, proving FS9 is nowhere near dead, developers take note.Echofox

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Yesterday I downloaded and installed Duxford, which to anyone who hasn't visited the real thing, this is the nearest you will get to fly from this famous WW2 airfield. A work of art, thank you. Now, it is interesting with all the postings of FS9 versus FSX that the current state of downloads 7 Nov @ 1510hrs GMT is FS9_ 743, FSX_757, proving FS9 is nowhere near dead, developers take note.Echofox
Add to that that Duxford is more a GA/Warbird airport which is more FSX territory. FS9 is very much alive on my drive.Love.giffsscr184-2.jpg

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Which duxford package do you use, and where can I find it.I live just up the road near Cambridge, and drive past the place daily. I love the VC10 there!!!Neil

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I'd like to know this, too.

Which duxford package do you use, and where can I find it.I live just up the road near Cambridge, and drive past the place daily. I love the VC10 there!!!Neil

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Which duxford package do you use, and where can I find it.I live just up the road near Cambridge, and drive past the place daily. I love the VC10 there!!!Neil
Prepare to be blown away! The files are here at avsim.acg_iwm_duxford_fs9.zip (For FS9)acg_iwm_duxford_fsx.zip (forFSX)

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Don't forget to read the Manuals, lot of info. If you live in the U.K. (or visiting), spend a day at Duxford, Mind blowing !!Echofox

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Yes, it is very good. Yesterday afternoon I set the month to July (as reccomended) and sat back to enjoy an airshow even if it was just circuits. The three DC3/RD4's took off after previously watching the Sabre and the middle RD4 had to do a 'go-around' on landing. Great stuff and a credit to the developer!You even see traffic on the M11..................wowee

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Just installed this and I second that, fantastic scenery indeed. Love the vintage aircraft, Monarch, BEA, BOAC, Air UK.... Love it!!!

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It is indeed a terrific scenery, especially with the AI airshow traffic enabled. One tip - if you're having a problem with the ramp texture displaying as white, drop the developers a line and they'll send you a replacement texture that isn't as big. Solved my problem completely, as long as aircraft shadows are also enabled. Terrific support, as I had a response with the solution to my problem within an hour or two of my original query.

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This scenery is brilliant! Spent time just watching the air show last night. Many thanks to the developers.

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This scenery is superb! Thanks to the developers. I am just curious about one thing. How is it that these devs can put together this over the top scenery (for free) and the frame rates are thru the roof, while some payware that is nowhere near as detailed chokes the frames? Thinking.gif

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I have downloaded the FSX version and it is really excellent.Congratulations to the designers.

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As one of the two developers of the Duxford scenery, can I just say a big thank you on behalf of us both for all your kind words. It's really made the project worthwhile. We are so glad you like the scenery.Joe's question is really relevant to good designing. It's not easy to answer unless you are familiar with Gmax, but in our case we did quite a bit of research into what makes FS9 and FSX tick, performance-wise. There are a couple of quite technical Microsoft documents around that give some clues and with a bit of experimentation, we began to understand. It's based on the premise that "polygons don't matter, texture vertices do". What it really means is that you can build complex items with many polygons, but you need a technique to share all the common texture vertex points (the dots that map the texture shapes to the faces of the modesl) to minimise their number and the number of draw calls. Repeated objects like trees are a prime example and benefit enormously from the technique. If any designer wants more information, go to the tutorial section of the ACG website or drop me an e-mail (addresess in the Duxford manual). There's a tutorial there that I wrote on the subject written in simple terms that might help.John

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Hi guys,I am suffering from the White texture (at the end of 24 and on the taxiway and ramp).This is truly an excellent scenery, and I am very grateful to the developers for all their hard work. I drive past Duxford twice a day on my way to work at London City, and always smile when I see the VC10 tailplane.I also get to visit Duxford once a year on my birthday (have been for the last 9 years) and there is always more to discover!ThanksNeil

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I have just made a visit to Duxford and have realised that I don't have any AI traffic.I have run the AI installer (all the aircraft appear in my Aircraft folder) but there is absolutely no AI traffic regardless of what time I switch to.I have my AI slider at 100%, so this shouldn't be a problem.Where do I find the AFCAD for the scenery. In the airshow Scenery folder I only have Airshow_cars, Airshow_People, Airshow_tents and Fire trucks 1 and 2 BGLs.What am I doing wrong?Thanks for any help,NeilEDIT: In the ACG IWM Duxford FS9Scenery folder I have AFX_EGS2.bgl and AFX_EGSU.bgl. Shouldn't they be AF2 files for FS9?

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Neil, the white texture you mention is due to a large sheet that some graphics cards don't like - it's fine on mine, Stevo's and the testers, but it seems to be affecting a small number of people from the large numbers of people who have downloaded so far. If you drop me or Stevo and e-mail, we can send you a smaller texture that will solve the problem.There is nothing wrong with the supplied AI packages. Have you enabled both the main scenery and the air show add-on in the scenery library and does the air show area sit above the main area as illustrated in the manual? Don't tamper with the AFX files, there is nothing wrong with them. AFX files have the same format as AF2 files but they are produced with Flight 1's AFX payware program that has many more facilities than AFCAD2, including the ability to convert between FS9 and FSX formats, something that AFCAD2 can't do.Simple check list for you:1. Both scenery areas enabled in the library and stacked correctly,2. Aircraft in FS9aircraft3. Duxford1.bgl traffic file in FS9sceneryworldscenery4. AI traffic set to on (at least 10%) but see the AI manual for the 3 different levels of visibilityHope that helps.John

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Hi John,Thanks for your help with this one.I have followed your checklist, and it all seems correct (i have Traffic_Duxford1.bgl in the world/scenery folder.I deleted the default FS9 AI years ago. Could this cause a problem?I also have the traffic slider at 100%, but assume that as it is above 30%, it should display all traffic.Just tried again, and apart from the cool looking WW2 pilots, the ramp is empty (the spectators seem to be getting a bit bored :-))Sorry to be a pain, but it just won't work for me!ThanksNeil

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I deleted my default FS9 traffic years ago too by removing traffic30528.bgl Neil, but no other files. No problem there if that's all you have removed. The historic aircraft should display at 100%, the only reason I suggested for not doing that is because it will let through some unrepresentative default aircraft, if you have 30528 present.Have you ensured that there are no other EGSU.bgl files in other add-on scenery taking precedence, especially AF2 files? UK2000 scenery is often the cause of conflicts. Try a Windows search as per the Duxford manual.

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Hi,I have searched for 'EGSU' and 'Duxford', but it only came up with your files (I don't have any of the UK2000 airfields scenery, apart from the big airports).I will uninstall and reinstall and see if that makes a difference. I am getting AI everywhere else, just not at Duxford. Very mysterious.I'll have another go and report backThanksNeil

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The other thing you can try Neil, is to switch off (uncheck) all 3rd-party scenery in the scenery library except for Duxford and see if the AI appears. Remember to re-launch FS9 though. If it does appear, that will tell you that there is a conflict. You can then switch on half the 3rd- party scenery and test again and use a process of divide and conquer to get to the offending scenery area.

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AI problem has been solved.In the fs9.cfg file there is an entry hidden called IFROnly. I changed this from 1 to 0 and I now have AI.What a wonderful Airshow to watch. Almost like being there in person (minus the crashes).ThanksNeil

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I've never noticed that before Neil, how on earth did you discover it? I assume that you couldn't see the AI because it's all on a VFR flight plan (unless you happened to switch the optional IFR file).John

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I love this FS9 scenery and AI. I sit at the end of the runway with my modified Mobile Control Tower and watch and follow all the AI. I really enjoy it. My old computer system runs OK in FS9 but is too slow to enjoy the scenery and AI in FSX. Thanks, Bob.

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