HelloSomeone left the door open around here, but that's fine.Some of these random characters that are walking in and out just crack me up

Is this a KKK statement ?

My honest answer ? Here it is. I have never heard about PFE, simming since years anyway there is plenty of simmers around the world that never heard about it as well, believe it or not.It must be a coincidence sure, but cause I do no like to express opinions on what I do not know I will visit their site to take a look, why not.I have no problem being honest, I have tried at least half a dozens of ATC both freeware and payware and I assumed another half a dozen were missing from my radar, as evidence shows PFE is one the missing half dozen so I was right.I'll let you know and thanks for sharing.If you could be so gentle to release a very short review comparing it to the most known ones I would appreciate it as well.

HelloMark, when you are in a hole the best thing to do is stop digging.You have not tried "at least " half a dozen ATC programs for MSFS because aside from the default ATC only three others exist.Suprised that having been simming for "years" you have never heard of Proflight2000 given that at one time Proflight2000 and Radar Contact were all that was available to us, Proflight Emulator brings Proflight2000 back to us..Here is where you might like to purchase it.http://en.shop.aeros...1nbgt4hulm1i9n0

HelloMark, when you are in a hole the best thing to do is stop digging.You have not tried "at least " half a dozen ATC programs for MSFS because aside from the default ATC only three others exist.Suprised that having been simming for "years" you have never heard of Proflight2000 given that at one time Proflight2000 and Radar Contact were all that was available to us, Proflight Emulator brings Proflight2000 back to us..Here is where you might like to purchase it.http://en.shop.aeros...1nbgt4hulm1i9n0

Upfff... have you ever heard about ATC mods ? http://www.editvoicepack.com/http://www.multicrewxp.com/These are ATC modifications for example, definitely not default FSX ATC neither VoxAtc nor Radar Contact are, just to mention few. There are also other freeware products rleated to ATC modifications, btw also Radar Contact and Vox are ATC modifications.....You should give a rest to blindly supporting Flight, it is starting to become personal for some of you.

You should give a rest to blindly supporting Flight, it is starting to become personal for some of you.

Then you should stop nagging on and on about how bad Flight is going to be. As you've pointed out a few times before in favour of yourself, it is free speech here within the limits of the forum rules.

Then you should stop nagging on and on about how bad Flight is going to be. As you've pointed out a few times before in favour of yourself, it is free speech here within the limits of the forum rules.

Until Ms will release some sort of news you have to expect speculation on forums and speculations do not necessarily go in one direction only.Ms likes , dunno why , to release a micro tiny news every 2 months only. December announcement was only a mail stating about the beta.To be honest I would have expected more ( from a marketing point of view ) from a product that is being sat on since a year and a half by the biggest software house in the whole world.

Upfff... have you ever heard about ATC mods ? http://www.editvoicepack.com/http://www.multicrewxp.com/These are ATC modifications for example, definitely not default FSX ATC neither VoxAtc nor Radar Contact are, just to mention few. There are also other freeware products rleated to ATC modifications, btw also Radar Contact and Vox are ATC modifications.....You should give a rest to blindly supporting Flight, it is starting to become personal for some of you.

Hello MarkI do not blindly support Flight!, I am an FSX user only these days.Depending on what Flight! turns out to be I may not even buy it.If it does not support Fsuipc, and it is looking very much like it will not, then I will have no obvious way to interface my hardware.So it would be a pointless purchase.You need to understand the differences between ATC mods and full ATC programs, maybe buy some of them to understand better.Editvoicepack is a mod for the default ATC, it is Not an ATC program but rather it modifies the default ATC's usenglishbig.gvp and the Airlines.cfgBut it is still the default ATCMulticrew Exp allows voice interaction with the Default ATC or Radar Contact 4.3 amongst other things, it is not by itself an ATC program.Now do you actually own any of these ATC programs ?I have bought and used all of these including Multicrew Exp so have experience of what they do.Come back when you have really used them and give your true opinion rather than dismissing them as not worthy of mention in your opinion.

Hello MarkI do not blindly support Flight!, I am an FSX user only these days.Depending on what Flight! turns out to be I may not even buy it.If it does not support Fsuipc, and it is looking very much like it will not, then I will have no obvious way to interface my hardware.So it would be a pointless purchase.You need to understand the differences between ATC mods and full ATC programs, maybe buy some of them to understand better.Editvoicepack is a mod for the default ATC, it is Not an ATC program but rather it modifies the default ATC's usenglishbig.gvp and the Airlines.cfgBut it is still the default ATCMulticrew Exp allows voice interaction with the Default ATC or Radar Contact 4.3 amongst other things, it is not by itself an ATC program.Now do you actually own any of these ATC programs ?I have bought and used all of these including Multicrew Exp so have experience of what they do.Come back when you have really used them and give your true opinion rather than dismissing them as not worthy of mention in your opinion.

In my opinion ? Just take a look at each simulation forums in the world and I encourage you to open a poll stating : " which are the 3 best ATC addons for FSX ? "Then you will realise what I mean.BTW, it has already been done but considering you do not trust me I encourage you to open a poll to check results.Told that, I appreciate the fact that your position against flight is not blinded by MS marketing.

In my opinion ? Just take a look at each simulation forums in the world and I encourage you to open a poll stating : " which are the 3 best ATC addons for FSX ? "Then you will realise what I mean.BTW, it has already been done but considering you do not trust me I encourage you to open a poll to check results.Told that, I appreciate the fact that your position against flight is not blinded by MS marketing.

Hello MarkI do not need to open a poll to find the best 3.I own and have used all of them, I now only use two of them.The other one is deleted.

Until Ms will release some sort of news you have to expect speculation on forums and speculations do not necessarily go in one direction only.Ms likes , dunno why , to release a micro tiny news every 2 months only. December announcement was only a mail stating about the beta.To be honest I would have expected more ( from a marketing point of view ) from a product that is being sat on since a year and a half by the biggest software house in the whole world.

And at some point there will be more. Have faith! LOL.My point was don't claim free speech while asking another forum member to refrain from posting his opinion. Ok, I'll stop playing forumpolice now

Hello MarkI do not need to open a poll to find the best 3.I own and have used all of them, I now only use two of them.The other one is deleted.

which two?

which two?

HelloRC4 and PFE

In the infamous words of someone (Churchill ?), this is the begining of the begining.But, glad to see M$ Flight getting ready for a beta !

Actually, the gist of Churchill's quote was the exact opposite of what you have written, and how can it be 'infamous' ? You are obviously more obsessed with the alleged fiscal avarice of ''M$'' rather than displaying any credible knowledge with your classical quotations !

Actually, the gist of Churchill's quote was the exact opposite of what you have written, and how can it be 'infamous' ? You are obviously more obsessed with the alleged fiscal avarice of ''M$'' rather than displaying any credible knowledge with your classical quotations !

tons of people misuse the word "infamous"

Hello MarkI do not blindly support Flight!If it does not support Fsuipc, and it is looking very much like it will not,

How on earth do we know that

In the infamous words of someone (Churchill ?), this is the begining of the begining.

Churchill's word are famous, not infamous. Also he acually said "Now this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. but it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning."Are your other contributions as accurate and knowledgeable?