Nope, I still don't understand that rationale.If Hawaii is considered expensive, how could one afford FSX Gold itself? It is still available, and costs $70 or so.YES, I can hear you: it "comes with the whole world", except you need to buy ORBX if you really want to enjoy Australia, you need to buy Global FX if you want the whole world in any great detail, you need to be REX if you want your clouds to look any good and not be a slideshow, you needed to wait 3 years for GFX cards powerful enough to run it without getting a mortgage on your house, you need to buy TrafficX or similar to get any decent AI that isn't a slideshow, and good luck landing in Nepal, Tibet, Bhutan or Antarctica - so, NO, you can't "fly anywhere" can you? If you're anything like me, blam, there goes $2,000

I've never really understood this 'need' to buy add-ons. Sure they make FS look a lot nicer, but you don't need them. The only payware scenery add-on I have is GSX, which definitely enhances my FSX experience, but I didn't need it to enjoy FSX. All my scenery add-ons are freeware AFCADs from avsim, with traffic taken care of by WoAI. I've visited both Nepal and Bhutan (in FSX) and while Aerosoft's Lukla does certainly (as far as I can tell by the screenshots) look much nicer I didn't need it to be able to enjoy my flight to Lukla.Ultimately value is a subjective thing and I can certainly understand why for some people 10 planes plus the whole world is worth $70, and 1 plane plus a bunch of islands and missions is not worth $20.Having said that I have bought the Hawaii adventure pack myself and haven't regretted spending a penny of those 20 bucks.

I do not mind to buy Every single Dlc that cover land - and few planes to fly over it !600 - 800 $$ - no problems ! credit card ready ! right here on my right side.before i spend a single $ - i want to see an sdk - and a addon folder where i can add and make the sim the way i like it.without that my 600 - 1000 $$ whatever will stay in my pocket.pretty sure there are lots of customers like me waiting MS to deliver !!

Edited March 6, 201214 yr by arsenal82

There are things I dont care for in flight, but price is not one of them. I think the prices of the DLC are very resonable. Ive spend close to, if not over $1000 in FSX alone in the last 6 years and Im already up to $200 for Xplane 10 addons and Ive only had it a month! ( yes im addicted to flight sims). So paying $20 for the rest of hawaii and an extra plane is nothing, considering you got the big island for free. Now you can save up for a few months or so until the Alaska stuff comes out, and so on.I think its pretty reasonable plus you only need to buy the stuff you like. Dont like Alaska? pass it up and wait for the next thing.Rob

Hi mad dog!I'm from Canada so I "sort of" know how you feel. But, I am willing to bet that you'll see an addon pack for the Brittish Isles, long before you see a pack for the area I come from... Atlantic Canada! LOL!Don't loose hope just yet... it's early days right now brother!

Having content from your area is always great but before Flight I never knew too much on Hawaii or cared to know about it. With the geocaches and just flying around to various points I have actually done some more research on a place a I could give two craps about before, so in a sense the game has also educated me on a place I knew nothing about and garnered some interest in. With the Alaskian pack what little bit of Canada is in it I will welcome with open arms, but I would also like some Eastern US area as well.As for the cost of flight you will prob see more and more games go this way in the future. MS has seen and got a taste of what people are willing to spend to keep their games fresh and new. Hence the success of DLC on the 360 and with their recently released Age of Empires Online. Also when you look at COD or ME, people spend more on new DLC for those games than they did to buy the actual game. Money is in DLC and when you can give a game away for free with little content most people are willing to shell out for more on it. You just need to give them a taste of the pie to lure them into buying the whole thing.

I suspect there are many FSX users who DON'T pay for add-ons such as aircraft, scenery, environments etc. Pretty well ALL of these were/are available as pirated versions if you know where to look, how to get them, and are the sort of person prepared to fiddle around and tweak install procedures... These pirate pilots will be looking in shock at the new business model where they may have to actually PAY for content...Obviously no one on this forum is included in the above sweeping statement :)

before Flight I never knew too much on Hawaii or cared to know about it. With the geocaches and just flying around to various points I have actually done some more research on a place a I could give two craps about before, so in a sense the game has also educated me on a place I knew nothing about and garnered some interest in.With the Alaskian pack what little bit of Canada is in it I will welcome with open arms, but I would also like some Eastern US area as well.

HeLLoThat's the way I see the game also, and I'm very pleased.@@++ps: I would like to see one European country also ;)

Edited March 6, 201214 yr by FiLooo

I suspect there are many FSX users who DON'T pay for add-ons such as aircraft, scenery, environments etc. Pretty well ALL of these were/are available as pirated versions if you know where to look, how to get them, and are the sort of person prepared to fiddle around and tweak install procedures... These pirate pilots will be looking in shock at the new business model where they may have to actually PAY for content...Obviously no one on this forum is included in the above sweeping statement :)

And then there are FSX users like me who don't pay for add-ons OR pirate them. I'm quite content with the vanilla FSX scenery, planes, traffic, weather, etc.. I paid ~$30 for FSX, so to have to pay $20 PER STATE with Flight is a little bit hard to swallow. Hopefully MS will run sales like they do with their Xbox games/DLC. I just can't see spending $500+ on a sim, like some people do.

I suspect there are many FSX users who DON'T pay for add-ons such as aircraft, scenery, environments etc. Pretty well ALL of these were/are available as pirated versions if you know where to look, how to get them, and are the sort of person prepared to fiddle around and tweak install procedures... These pirate pilots will be looking in shock at the new business model where they may have to actually PAY for content...Obviously no one on this forum is included in the above sweeping statement :)

Dlc Model is Not unvulnerable either.

Yes, some people do pay $30 for a highly detailed airport. But this is an option. In FSX, if I want to fly to New York, I can. If I want to buy (or download from Avsim) optional scenery to add more detail, I can. Flight doesn't give us that choice.

Agreed, this is the point some people seem to miss when they compare the cost of FSX addons to Flight's potential addon cost.Scenery wise In FSX you are only paying to 'enhance' what is already there.For the area coverage you got in FSX is going to be the cost of only '3' Hawaii type scenery areas in Flight.If the Flight addon pricing trend continues, Flight will either get very expensive very fast, or remain limitedby the cost of Addons..Regards.Ernie.

Dlc Model is Not unvulnerable either.

No its not, but its a lot more difficult. Just checked, and nobody has yet to crack the Hawaii pack or any of the DLC aircraft. Most games are cracked days before they are released. Then again, this one is under the radar of the skilled pirates who are busy cracking things like ME3.

I would imagine they will have to price it , what the market will bear. These first new ones, like Alaska, may be priced a little higher than what we might want, but eventually , I would think if sales of DLC were to drop dramatically, they would re-think their pricing structure.It is all about gross margin dollars, and the bottom line. If priced where the volume is not there in sales, they won't make enough to recoup their costs and make a profit. If priced where the margin percent is not that great, but volume produces the margin dollars and recoups the cost eventually turning into a profit, then I am sure they will pursue that. Either way, with the time, effort and money expended on this project, I doubt they would abandon it anytime soon without looking at all options.

You know, people are speculating that MS will need to charge an arm and a leg for these DLC areas, and it may turn out to be true.....But we all seem to be proceeding from the assumption that the time and effort will be enormous to recreate the whole world in flight!Is that really true? Are they really recreating all this, when they have already invented that particular wheel?More likely to me is that they might be simply converting existing scenery to the flight! format, (textures and etc) and that may not be nearly as huge or laborious a task...........Something to go "hmmmmm" about, (assuming its possible)

You know, people are speculating that MS will need to charge an arm and a leg for these DLC areas, and it may turn out to be true.....But we all seem to be proceeding from the assumption that the time and effort will be enormous to recreate the whole world in flight!Is that really true? Are they really recreating all this, when they have already invented that particular wheel?More likely to me is that they might be simply converting existing scenery to the flight! format, (textures and etc) and that may not be nearly as huge or laborious a task...........Something to go "hmmmmm" about, (assuming its possible)

I do not know about that - but those mountains textures in ak - look very familiar to me.

Edited March 6, 201214 yr by arsenal82

I do not know about that - but those mountains textures in ak - look very familiar to me.

As walking around outside the plane, as trees moving in the wind.....and your point is?

As walking around outside the plane, as trees moving in the wind.....and your point is?

im talking about textures - and terrain in general - what has to do with walking ??? or trees moving ??i say again: the mountains - and ground textures in ak - look very familiar to me - and indeed not very much different than fsx.and based what the gentleman above my post - smell - it might be that some fsx textures have been indeed updated and directly imported into flight.