March 23, 201214 yr Nic,What is your budget? What is the most you would possibly spend? Keep in mind, in my opinion, the yoke is the single most immersive piece of hardware you can buy. There's no point in recommending anything until we know your budget. Dennis Trawick Screen Shot Forum Rules
March 23, 201214 yr If you're after an entry level yoke I think the saitek pro flight would be your best bet. You can get it packaged with a throttle quadrant & rudder pedals for a small discount. Ordering a 2nd tq (as mentioned already) is a good idea. Kenneth Weir My Saitek yoke mod i7 2600k @ 4.7 8GB Gskill CAS7 2x GTX580 SLI Surround + GT520 Accessory Win7x64
March 23, 201214 yr Depending what your budget is:- low (below 100€) - a good joystick- medium (up to 200€) - Saitek Cessna Yoke (don't bother with Pro Flight, it sucks badly, didn't try Cessna, but from what I saw, its not much better, but at least a bit) - high (more than 200€) - PFC Yoke, Saab Style, just got one, and I can only recommend it (look out for the review in the upcoming week in hardware forums)The fact is that all plastic yokes introduce terrible TERRIBLE stickiness. You can mostly only fly it with both hands, if you try turn and pull the yoke, you'll be confronted with very weird forces etc. That is all due to fact that those yokes use plastic rings in which yoke shaft resides. PFC for instance is making ball bearing carriers for the shaft, thus making the movement fully smooth, wherever you travel. Depending where you live, price is going to vary from €400-€700.The best thing is: you get lifetime warranty on the mechanism.So you have a choice: exchange each couple of years due to wear, and probably be disappointed, or go full way, and get a decent yoke which you'll enjoy.Good luck!
March 23, 201214 yr If you really want something awsome (and if you have enough money..) you might to buy something like this: --->klick<--- It has force feedback! Elsewere you might want to buy something from Saitek. I am okay with the Pro Flight yoke, however I don't like the Pro Flight Paddals.For that money, I would expect it to be a proper control collumn, floor mounted... --Peter Fabian
March 23, 201214 yr I have had the PFC column yoke, rudder pedals and Jet console for years. The throttle quadrant is for the 737 and has throttles, reversers, spoiler and flap levers. This is as close to the real thing as you can get. I don't know if PFC has the jet console available anymore. These are all steel units and very reliable and precise.Tom Hibben
March 23, 201214 yr I don't have a yoke, but if you do get pedals definitely go for the Saitek Pro combat pedals. They feel much more heavy and realistic compared to CH or the cheaper saitek pedals. The only unrealistic aspect is the toe brakes - far too easy to depress (an issue with all of the flight sim rudder pedals imho)http://www.amazon.com/Saitek-Flight-Combat-Rudder-Pedals/dp/B004ING996/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1332540521&sr=8-1 | My Liveries | FAA ZMP | PPL ASEL | | Windows 11 | MSI Z690 Tomahawk | 12700K 4.7GHz | MSI RTX 4080 | 64GB 6000 MHz DDR5 | 500GB Samsung 860 Evo SSD | 2x 2TB Samsung 970 Evo M.2 | EVGA 850W Gold | Corsair 5000X | HP G2 (VR) / LG 27" 1440p |
March 23, 201214 yr Depending what your budget is:- low (below 100€) - a good joystick- medium (up to 200€) - Saitek Cessna Yoke (don't bother with Pro Flight, it sucks badly, didn't try Cessna, but from what I saw, its not much better, but at least a bit) - high (more than 200€) - PFC Yoke, Saab Style, just got one, and I can only recommend it (look out for the review in the upcoming week in hardware forums)The fact is that all plastic yokes introduce terrible TERRIBLE stickiness. You can mostly only fly it with both hands, if you try turn and pull the yoke, you'll be confronted with very weird forces etc. That is all due to fact that those yokes use plastic rings in which yoke shaft resides. PFC for instance is making ball bearing carriers for the shaft, thus making the movement fully smooth, wherever you travel. Depending where you live, price is going to vary from €400-€700.The best thing is: you get lifetime warranty on the mechanism.So you have a choice: exchange each couple of years due to wear, and probably be disappointed, or go full way, and get a decent yoke which you'll enjoy.Good luck!Mine doesn't stick, it's quite smooth. I never use more than 2 or 3 fingers either. Kenneth Weir My Saitek yoke mod i7 2600k @ 4.7 8GB Gskill CAS7 2x GTX580 SLI Surround + GT520 Accessory Win7x64
March 23, 201214 yr Then your must be a wonder-yoke and those hundreds of reports of a sticky yoke, bad inner systems, bad pots and attempts to mod it are a fake and useless.(sorry, but I owned 3 Saitek yokes, read like hundreds of posts and on each and every one I had the one and the same problem)
March 23, 201214 yr I don't have a yoke, but if you do get pedals definitely go for the Saitek Pro combat pedals. They feel much more heavy and realistic compared to CH or the cheaper saitek pedals. The only unrealistic aspect is the toe brakes - far too easy to depress (an issue with all of the flight sim rudder pedals imho)http://www.amazon.co...32540521&sr=8-1 disagree, i have the rudder pedals combat, and the toe braking is just fine. Daniel choen
March 24, 201214 yr Then your must be a wonder-yoke and those hundreds of reports of a sticky yoke, bad inner systems, bad pots and attempts to mod it are a fake and useless.(sorry, but I owned 3 Saitek yokes, read like hundreds of posts and on each and every one I had the one and the same problem)Speaking from my own experience, saitek yokes CAN be easily modded to work smoothly & easily. It's still and always will be an entry-level yoke yes, but it's also far from being a waste of money. Kenneth Weir My Saitek yoke mod i7 2600k @ 4.7 8GB Gskill CAS7 2x GTX580 SLI Surround + GT520 Accessory Win7x64
March 24, 201214 yr The Saitek PF yoke or the CH i grant you, is probably not the best in the world, but you go for what you can afford. I don't have the best yoke and pedals money can buy, but they sure beat not having either. Rick Hobbs
March 24, 201214 yr Speaking from my own experience, saitek yokes CAN be easily modded to work smoothly & easily. It's still and always will be an entry-level yoke yes, but it's also far from being a waste of money.Apparently for most people it's an OK thing. Many were/are very much satisfied with the all-plastic-yoke from CH.I guess in the end it's up to you, how much you expect. I myself expect and want quality - I've been simming close to 10 years now, and I had one piece of hardware that is still working - MS FF2 - yes, back then as a joystick it costed a lot, around 150€, and it's still working today. I'm sure I'll be simming for many coming years, and I think PFC yoke definitely pays off, as it's sturdy, good quality, looks and feels great (nothing compared to holding a plastic yoke)... I've always been like that. (oh and btw. I tried modding my last Saitek yoke before I sold it at ebay, without to my satisfying result)
March 24, 201214 yr I have the CH Yoke, Throttle Quadrant, and Pedals and have zero problems with them. Worked so far for a few years already and I love them.
March 24, 201214 yr There is a huge difference between having no yoke and having an entry level (CH or Saitek) yoke. There is also a huge difference between having an entry level yoke and a high end yoke, such as the Cessna or one of these. http://flypfc.com/?/products/yokes/When it comes to tools (or flight sim hardware) my philosophy is buy the best you can possibly afford, you'll save a lot of money in the long run. Dennis Trawick Screen Shot Forum Rules
March 24, 201214 yr When it comes to tools (or flight sim hardware) my philosophy is buy the best you can possibly afford, you'll save a lot of money in the long run.I fully agree to this statement.
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