This may bring some comfort to payware developers.

It is a new 5 or 6 strikes and you're out system put in place by the major internet providers to protect copyright material.

 

http://www.copyright...m-set-to-begin/

 

 

Comcast is the first to launch the "CAS" system (Copyright Alert System), with AT&T, Cablevision, Time-Warner and Verizon to follow.

They say that they cannot cut-off offenders connections, but they can reduce connection speeds and block popular websites.

They say that the program is intended to educate offenders to the copyright laws in the U.S.

Except that you aren't really "out" if you ignore the alerts.

 

There is no mention of what happens after that, but the CCI does not require ISPs to cut off service or permanently throttle speeds. The new alert system seems more like the latest incarnation of the takedown requests sent to users under the Copyright Act. Director Jill Lesser said in a radio interview that Lesser said that once a user has been warned six times, "we're just not going to send them any more alerts. Because they are not the kind of customer that we're going to reach with this program."

 

http://www.theverge.com/2013/2/25/4026194/infamous-six-strike-anti-piracy-program-barks-harder-than-it-bites

It also mentions there that the ISP will turn over the information on the violator to the owner of the copyright, and they may be taken to civil court.

I think it is something, and something is better than nothing. ^_^

interestingly it appears to only apply for 'lawful use of digital music, movies and TV shows.' Record and music execs, who already fleece the public, will be rubbing their hands with glee. No mention of software/games

 

P2P only? Nothing to curb the rapidshare/uploaded etc

 

Won't work. Reduce prices on things and those that really want the product will buy it.

 

Wait for the innocent to be affected more than the guilty as usual

So the isp's are now the internet police? Not condoning piracy, but isp's are in the business of selling data. They should stick to what they are good at.

but isp's are in the business of selling data

 

They're in the business of selling bandwidth and are entitled to check what others are asking them to transmit.

Musicians don't work for free it hours and weeks to create one song and to steal I would be pist. Glad they are doing this now it's theft to download illegally.

I suspect the result of this will be that there will be a couple people affected, and this will be splashed all over the press as a major victory for copyright holders, but have no actual impact at all.

 

scott s.

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I'm all for doing whatever can be done to shut piracy down... but... this program doesn't really make much sense.

 

"Six strikes and we ignore you."??? Really? LOL

I'm all for doing whatever can be done to shut piracy down... but... this program doesn't really make much sense.

 

"Six strikes and we ignore you."??? Really? LOL

 

Ed, I believe the whole idea of any law or lock is to keep the honest, honest. Those who are set on being dishonest and criminal, will do those things no matter what law is in place.

We have locks on our doors, but if a thief is intent on getting in, a lock won't keep them out. It will just discourage the one who is trying to decide if the chance of a life in jail is worth it.

If a law like this will discourage and threaten to shine legal and public awareness on someone trying to decide one way or the other, it might be a good thing. It will just help them to make the right decision.

They're in the business of selling bandwidth and are entitled to check what others are asking them to transmit.

 

Gosh, that sounds a bit of a slippery slope. I'd rather hope that an ISP shouldn't necessarily police what's transmitted over their pipes..should my ISP for example, have the right to analyse what my VPN connection to my place of work is transmitting (assuming they *could* monitor that data, of course)?

 

Back to the OP, we have the controversial Skynet law over here (NZ). Like France's Hadopi, its not been the raging success I think its proponents wanted it to be, given the penalties they wanted to have.

 

Right or wrong, at least those laws had the potential to kill users internet connection; CAS seems to be well.. a little toothless from these reports.

As with the old saying, "with power and influence comes responsibility." It doesn't matter how free a society we have, or how much we bang on about freedom of this and freedom of that, at the end of the day, we all have to adhere to our own responsibilites if we want to exercise such freedoms and use any power or influence we may have. Otherwise it's a little like having a gun store and handing over guns to any kid who asks for one!

Speaking of ISP monitoring I notice avsim have put this under 'special surveillance' haha... Sorry, just thought that was amusing!

 

But honestly the music industry and film industry need to catch on and release films faster to deter mild-pirates, use services such at Netflix and Hulu etc. the days of traditional media are finished and really music downloading and films etc could be seen as a direct catalyst because of the failure/ refusal of those said companies to supply the content easier and in a more affordable form to the customer.

 

This is yet just another scaremongering tactic by an industry failing to keep up and scared of future technologies.

 

Well that's my two pence... I have a friend who works for a record label in NY and knowing the way he moans about this stuff I reckon it's spot on...

Speaking of ISP monitoring I notice avsim have put this under 'special surveillance' haha... Sorry, just thought that was amusing!

 

But honestly the music industry and film industry need to catch on and release films faster to deter mild-pirates, use services such at Netflix and Hulu etc. the days of traditional media are finished and really music downloading and films etc could be seen as a direct catalyst because of the failure/ refusal of those said companies to supply the content easier and in a more affordable form to the customer.

 

This is yet just another scaremongering tactic by an industry failing to keep up and scared of future technologies.

 

Well that's my two pence... I have a friend who works for a record label in NY and knowing the way he moans about this stuff I reckon it's spot on...

 

Don't they just.Whilst not such an issue now, it wasn't such a long time ago that our forgotten island would have to wait up to a year to be able to watch "the latest" on terrestrial/cable, with no legal alternative. That is changing and for the better - we are getting some shows a week or two behind their premiere overseas. But, we live in a global village, and that really means that we shouldn't have to wait any longer than anyone else (I hate to read spoilers from my FB friends overseas).

 

IMO - its the music industry that have been slow to catch up.. the film industry have been a bit more savvy about this internet thing, and have been a bit more embracing. That said, it is still laughably easy for anyone to aquire what they want outside "official channels"..and until that is made the difficult option, it will probably stay that way.

In some ways it's surprising that this appears of all places in the USA, since you tend to be pretty damned good at defending individual rights and shunning any surveillance. In some ways it's logical that it happens in the US, since the music and pictures industries are good at lobbying over there.

 

Wouldn't see this happening here in Norway. The principle here is that ISP's aren't the police and therefore can't police citizens. The police can demand adresses from ISPs in special cases under court rulings.

 

What about those who share computers? Students sharing a flat and a single internet connection? What about them? Or families with multiple computers? Unless you're a real pro (or at least above average) with computers, you really can't be completely sure that your son or daughter won't download pirated songs while you and your wife are innocent? So the speed will get cut for the entire family because of what your children have been up to. It'd be naive to think that most adults are as good or better with computers than youths living under their roof. I'm only guessing here, since I've only got a 3 year old for now. Yes it's your responsibility if it's your contract with the ISP, but it's a responsibility that most parents or people who share a line can't follow up on.

 

I hope you read out of this a worry about innocently condemned pirates and the whole right to a fair hearing and all. Private companies shouldn't be police, judge and jury in one.

 

I'm reading the John Adams book by David McCullough right now, which may be why I'm on such as soap box, not comparing beyond that. :lol: