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Yes, JV already said something like that last weekend, although I was hoping for a release the coming weekend. But a release in July is fine with me too. ;)

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Thinking about getting ftx global. Any idea if it'll work with utx europe?

 

Also would uou need to reinstall airports or photoscenery even if its just been manually added to the fsx/addons folder?

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Yes, it will work perfectly fine with UTX. The ONLY addon it won't work with is GEX, because it's the exact same kind of add-on.

 

I don't know yet if photoreal will take priority over FTXG though... FTXG completely replaces default FSX: you can't simply turn FTXG off. (If you want to temporarily turn FTXG off, you will have to manually rename two folders: the one with FTXG and the one with the default FSX backup).

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To me, hands down, it is a no brainer to be patient. I would much rather wait the extra week or whatever is necessary to get this product -- said in different words, we want it done right. I really believe it has the potential to equate to a new version of FSX, because I think its visual impact is going to be a major one, especially for low and slow GA flyers.

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I am more excited about this than the triple seven to be honest.

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Also would uou need to reinstall airports or photoscenery even if its just been manually added to the fsx/addons folder?

 

In a word, no. The FTX Global textures replace the default FSX textures (just like GEX) so any photoscenery will appear on top of these textures. How well the photoscenery will blend with the FTX Global textures is another matter completely.

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I usually don't fly to default airports and sceneries....I avoid it like the plague. Thats why I don't even attempt to enhance it with GEX or UTX (I use UTX just for night lights to enhance photo sceneries). I am sure this would enhance default sceneries...but would it be better than specific scenery addons? Would this be better than Austria for FSX or VFR Germany from Aerosoft? Mega So cal... Orbx PNW and for enroute airliner flying I like FS Altitude... or other addons.

 

I find location specific highly detail scenery has a much better payoff than trying to enhance the whole world. I prefer Mega city with night and autogens photoscenries for an approach over a plain day only megascenry for the whole US. 

 

So I am not sure where this would fit in.... Hmmm... If one is not going to vest in lots of addon sceneries then this may helpful.. Just like I found GEX and UTX to be good at the beginning when I got FSX. 

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I usually don't fly to default airports and sceneries....I avoid it like the plague. Thats why I don't even attempt to enhance it with GEX or UTX (I use UTX just for night lights to enhance photo sceneries). I am sure this would enhance default sceneries...but would it be better than specific scenery addons? Would this be better than Austria for FSX or VFR Germany from Aerosoft? Mega So cal... Orbx PNW and for enroute airliner fling I like FS Altitude... or other addons.

 

So I am not sure where this would fit in.... Hmmm...

 

 

This release has nothing to do with enhancing default airports. It enhances ground textures worldwide. This will be a major game changer for the community.

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So I am not sure where this would fit in.... Hmmm...

 

For you, based on the criteria you specified, FTX Global would not fit in at all.

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For you, based on the criteria you specified, FTX Global would not fit in at all.

True. FTXG is a generic overall improvement but it will never give you wat smaller specific scenery addons can give you. Orbx says so themselves. No one should expect the whole world in FTX regions quality. It's ONLY new textures! To me however, this comes a long way to making things good enough for me. I think I will be happy with FTXG and some freeware I use until FTX Norway South will be released.

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I usually don't fly to default airports and sceneries....I avoid it like the plague. Thats why I don't even attempt to enhance it with GEX or UTX (I use UTX just for night lights to enhance photo sceneries). I am sure this would enhance default sceneries...but would it be better than specific scenery addons? Would this be better than Austria for FSX or VFR Germany from Aerosoft? Mega So cal... Orbx PNW and for enroute airliner flying I like FS Altitude... or other addons.

 

I find location specific highly detail scenery has a much better payoff than trying to enhance the whole world. I prefer Mega city with night and autogens photoscenries for an approach over a plain day only megascenry for the whole US. 

 

So I am not sure where this would fit in.... Hmmm... If one is not going to vest in lots of addon sceneries then this may helpful.. Just like I found GEX and UTX to be good at the beginning when I got FSX. 

that's cool for you, no reason to buy the product, other than making the flyover territory look better.  I'm not sure anybody is advertising this as being "better" in specific areas than austria vfr germany etc.   However, this may come as a shock to you, but some folks, myself included, think that photoscenery looks straight up horrible in just about all cases, and are looking forward to this layer of well done photographic textures to enhance both default scenery, and things like UTX and Open VFR.  I feel that the combination of these landclass products is far superior to my eyes in look and feel to PR scenery,  That and I like to fly everywhere, And I'd go broke trying to do that with individual small sceneries.

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I am more excited about this than the triple seven to be honest.

me 2, texture addons are more fun than the same old Boeing/Airbus addons :good:

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Keep thinking how in the world they finish FTX global so fast, because is the entire world we are talking about. How long did it take to finish one country then the next ? WAWO they deserve a big award for this achievement when FTX Global comes out. They are not kiding when they said "Enter A Whole New World" :lol:

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that's cool for you, no reason to buy the product, other than making the flyover territory look better.  I'm not sure anybody is advertising this as being "better" in specific areas than austria vfr germany etc.   However, this may come as a shock to you, but some folks, myself included, think that photoscenery looks straight up horrible in just about all cases, and are looking forward to this layer of well done photographic textures to enhance both default scenery, and things like UTX and Open VFR.  I feel that the combination of these landclass products is far superior to my eyes in look and feel to PR scenery,  That and I like to fly everywhere, And I'd go broke trying to do that with individual small sceneries.

 

+1 I am not into photoreal as I am a GA guy and spend my time at altitudes where Photoreal scenery looks like a tablecloth.

 

As for FTXG, textures alone are at the mercy of landclass and if the default landclass is WRONG, it will still look wrong. Just a different color/texture. In FSX default where things are wrong (which much of it is) ala missing towns, lakes, square shorelines, missing highways and rivers and the like, your just changing textures. You will need some groovy landclass products to make FTXG shine. Period. In other words.... be prepared now for the battle of the landclass providers!

 

Keep thinking how in the world they finish FTX global so fast, because is the entire world we are talking about. How long did it take to finish one country then the next ? WAWO they deserve a big award for this achievement when FTX Global comes out. They are not kiding when they said "Enter A Whole New World" :lol:

 

This is textures. They added very little else. FSX came with textures. FTX is not updating airports or adding anything extra to the scenery with this product except textures. If the existing FSX tile calls for farmland, farmland texture is colored onto the tile. Again. You will want/need landclass added to make the TILES acurate now or your just changing colors/textures.

 

Everything ORBX needed on the GLOBE is/was already there. They are mass dumping a pile of texture files into a folder from which FSX will pull depending on what is supposed to be under your plane (tiles) <----- oversimplification here.

 

Yes. They are making a few corrections in a few obvious areas to the landclass tiles. But nothing like UTX and Scenerytech have already done. Although ORBX will release thier own brand of lanclass products to compete and will no doubt favor the FTXG texture pack they are about to release.

 

I could have saved myself ALOT of time.... Here. Read this and replace GEX with FTXG as you read it.

 

http://forum.avsim.net/topic/331273-scenery-tech-na-vs-utx-na/

 

C.

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ShawnG, on 15 Jul 2013 - 10:52 AM, said:

However, this may come as a shock to you, but some folks, myself included

No reason to get snippy about it.... I was talking about myself and what I thought of it. from my perspective and my needs. Yes...some of us have invested 1000's of $$$ collecting sceneries...so we have lots of choices... and like I said, when I started out.. I found GEX and UTX to be beneficial since I did not have custom sceneries. Once I started collecting specific high detailed sceneries including ORBX wonderful PNW area and their Australia series,  there was diminishing returns for generic scenery enhancement for me. I am yet to  purchase their NZ series. That is on my future purchase list.  I am yet to purchase the Brazil scenery... I have been salivating at it for a while. IMO,  I have no need for enhancing Generic scenery for NA or even Western EU since these are covered with tons of sceneries... leaving Asia, Africa and the middle east. 

 

And since there are no photoscenries like FSAltitude or other sceneries for Asia... this could help me to fly that part of the world... With awesome airport sceneries from Thai Creations like Kathmandu and Mumbai and Paro, I have been looking at how good the Himalayas are in this product. So I still may benefit from this and I have not ruled out the purchase.

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This is when PMDG method is better, say nothing, then release when ready, saves a lot of hassle.

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+1 I am not into photoreal as I am a GA guy and spend my time at altitudes where Photoreal scenery looks like a tablecloth.

 

As for FTXG, textures alone are at the mercy of landclass and if the default landclass is WRONG, it will still look wrong. Just a different color/texture. In FSX default where things are wrong (which much of it is) ala missing towns, lakes, square shorelines, missing highways and rivers and the like, your just changing textures. You will need some groovy landclass products to make FTXG shine. Period. In other words.... be prepared now for the battle of the landclass providers!

 

 

This is textures. They added very little else. FSX came with textures. FTX is not updating airports or adding anything extra to the scenery with this product except textures. If the existing FSX tile calls for farmland, farmland texture is colored onto the tile. Again. You will want/need landclass added to make the TILES acurate now or your just changing colors/textures.

 

Everything ORBX needed on the GLOBE is/was already there. They are mass dumping a pile of texture files into a folder from which FSX will pull depending on what is supposed to be under your plane (tiles) <----- oversimplification here.

 

Yes. They are making a few corrections in a few obvious areas to the landclass tiles. But nothing like UTX and Scenerytech have already done. Although ORBX will release thier own brand of lanclass products to compete and will no doubt favor the FTXG texture pack they are about to release.

 

I could have saved myself ALOT of time.... Here. Read this and replace GEX with FTXG as you read it.

 

http://forum.avsim.net/topic/331273-scenery-tech-na-vs-utx-na/

 

C.

With all do respect an am not trying to start an argument but you make it sound so simple what Orbx are doing with FTX Global. I understand what you are saying an when i said how they finish it so fast it really doesn't matter if everything they needed was there already. The point is that if they had to work on the whole world with texture being there or not it still should take up lots of time an i am very impress with what they have done  . The world is kind of big you know !

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With all do respect an am not trying to start an argument but you make it sound so simple what Orbx are doing with FTX Global. I understand what you are saying an when i said how they finish it so fast it really doesn't matter if everything they needed was there already. The point is that if they had to work on the whole world with texture being there or not it still should take up lots of time an i am very impress with what they have done  . The world is kind of big you know !

 

No offence intended. Please accept my opologies. I am impressed too.

 

C.

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FTX is not updating airports or adding anything extra to the scenery with this product except textures.

 

 

Not sure that is accurate.  The many preview screenshots from ORBX we have seen over the last few weeks show more than just new textures - e.g., cityscapes with apparent custom objects and new autogen. In any case, I definitely will buy this product, and will continue to purchase upcoming Orbx regions (Eire, Northern Ireland, Southern Norway, Northern California) and other regional VFR products and airports that are autogen compatible with Orbx regions (Germany VFR, 29 Palms).   I believe that Orbx are setting a new standard for FSX scenery products and hope that other developers will decide to cooperate with them.

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New autogen for the ground textures,  yes. Custom cityscapes and POI's, no. All those are already in FSX.

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People expect way too much of these TEXTURES, it´s only new textures, please be kind to yourself and relax, or you will get very disappointed!

If you look at the screenshots over there, it´s an "FTX World" - with the same textures all over the world, and please note that the coastlines still looks horrible, so IMO people expect way too much of this, and they should relax a bit and carefully read, again and again, what John V. actually say what this product IS and what it NOT is, just my 2 Turkish Lira on this matter, thanks...

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This is when PMDG method is better, say nothing, then release when ready, saves a lot of hassle.

 

I not really seeing the hassle. I'm sure everyone is happy that Orbx is forthcoming with what's going on.

 

I prefer that to the silent treatment.

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It'll be worth getting out the popcorn when this releases - to so many people, Orbx means 'complete makeover'; despite how careful they've been to explain everything, there's still going to be a lot of people upset, I think. I personally think they've done a fine job of explaining and managing expectations; but it'll still be interesting to watch.

 

I'm eagerly awaiting this particular addon - but between purchasing two planes and then having to place a throttle quadrant on order, I'm not that upset that it's been delayed!

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People expect way too much of these TEXTURES, it´s only new textures, please be kind to yourself and relax, or you will get very disappointed!

 

If you look at the screenshots over there, it´s an "FTX World" - with the same textures all over the world, and please note that the coastlines still looks horrible, so IMO people expect way too much of this, and they should relax a bit and carefully read, again and again, what John V. actually say what this product IS and what it NOT is, just my 2 Turkish Lira on this matter, thanks...

Let me guest you are not purchasing FTX Global right ? You are more a GEX guy right ?

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