I will know my way around in the B777 so will do some small hops before jumping in DBX-SFO

... stalls in different configurations, steep turns over a non populated area of course...

Why?

Why not just study the procedures now? Beats hitting refresh on the forum page waiting for release.

 

Why do I get the feeling the ones on the forum asking for release dates and crazy micro details to be added will be the same ones flooding the forums with 'how does this work?' questions.

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Why do I get the feeling the ones on the forum asking for release dates and crazy micro details to be added will be the same ones flooding the forums with 'how does this work?' questions.

 

 

Exactly! Between

 

(1) flying her right away and

(3) reading the manuals/tutorials, I'm gonna

(2) post all my questions here!!!  

Why?

 

To be a better pilot? Understand how the aircraft responds in different flight regimes?

 

For me, I want to be able to hand fly the trip 7 in any situation; that means practicing hand flying and not just "gear up, autopilot on."

Why?

errrr  non populated area was tongue in cheek  :rolleyes:

 

why wouldn't you take the opportunity to fully test a stall in a T777?  I do it in every a/c in my hanger jet and prop , because I can and I want to know exactly how they react

To be a better pilot? Understand how the aircraft responds in different flight regimes?

 

For me, I want to be able to hand fly the trip 7 in any situation; that means practicing hand flying and not just "gear up, autopilot on."

Perhaps his point is that stalling a simulated aircraft is pretty pointless, it's not done in the simulator or any part of training done on airliners. You train for approach to stall, even those big shiny expensive sims are unable to accurately simulate stalls, which is why you train fir approach to stall.

 

Regarding fsx, I say why not, it's pretty fun seeing how the sim behaves when you stall the aircraft.

 

I do hope he did realise the unpopulated bit was a joke

Ive am familiar with the 737 and 747. Am tempted to jump in the deep end and fly the plane as soon as I can buy it but maybe I should spend a day or two reading the manuals and tutorial first?

 

First I'll get in the plane and see if I can successfully fly it without reading, because it is, after all... similar to a B747-400. This is what I did with the NGX, and it worked.

 

If I can't successfully fly it without reading (like the LSH MD-82), then I'll spend a few days reading the manuals and trying the tutorials.

errrr non populated area was tongue in cheek :rolleyes:

 

why wouldn't you take the opportunity to fully test a stall in a T777? I do it in every a/c in my hanger jet and prop , because I can and I want to know exactly how they react

Yeah, I was referring to doing stalls and steep turns. I got the tongue and cheek bit. Overquoted, I guess.

 

I do remember trying to spin an airliner once in FSX, but since flight school, there are some things I'd just rather never have to bother with again (like pretty much everything in the PTS). I can just see some guy now doing 8s on pylons in the T7.

I enjoy reading the developer notes etc myself, so will fire it up and fly a little then start reading in bed that same night.

Since I live in SA, I will hit the release in the early morning hours, so this is what I will do...

 

First, buy, download and install the moment it releases.   Then, having taken the next day off from work (naturally!) I will immediately have a quick scan at the introduction document to make sure I heed all the caveats for it to fly properly, load it up, follow the checklist to get through the cold and dark to take off, climb it out, set it into the cruise between two airports that is almost the maximum range, and then pick up the manuals, and read and tinker to my heart's desire and look at all the features whilst the aircraft is cruising.  

 

Once I have had a little sleep, get up in the morning and continue the reading whilst the aircraft cruises to her destination.  

 

Now, PMDG, all I need is the release date so that I know when to book that day's leave please?  :ph34r:  :LMAO:

 

Kind regards

Why not just study the procedures now? Beats hitting refresh on the forum page waiting for release.

Why do I get the feeling the ones on the forum asking for release dates and crazy micro details to be added will be the same ones flooding the forums with 'how does this work?' questions.

Yes the answers to the posts will be in the first few pages of the manual like the 2d throttle questions with the ngx. They can identify what they think is a minute defect on some panel in a beta screenshot but cant remember or figure out the bleed air for starting an engine

I'll be flying quite soon as it is released but getting it slowly though it's paces. I've bought I think about a year ago the PMDG manual set, so I'm done with that. But going slowly from cold and dark, and then some basic flying at first in manual to get the feel of the aircraft handling, though unfortunately our joystick hotas and all does not give that much feel back obviously. And then a few touch and gos, before a full landing, and then will start looking a a small hop and getting used to automation on the way Increasing distance little by little

errrr non populated area was tongue in cheek :rolleyes:

 

why wouldn't you take the opportunity to fully test a stall in a T777? I do it in every a/c in my hanger jet and prop , because I can and I want to know exactly how they react

Nothing to stop you, but there isn't much point; certainly if you're looking for realism or indeed a learning experience.

 

The stall regime for a swept wing airliner is unlikely to be accurately modelled. This is because if you stall an airliner, you're likely to get killed. Kyle covered one reason, which is loss of lateral control due to the wing tips stalling first. Another result of this is that it causes the centre of pressure to move forward, causing a pitch up moment, further aggravating the stall.

 

A stall in an airliner isn't like that of a small Cessna. It will result in the loss of many thousands of feet. As they are so dangerous, the aircraft are built with protection and training involves avoiding them, not recovering.

Oh ya forgot as well:  PMDG 777 release means an immediate sick day tomorrow if a weekday.