That too, but that's because they are simpler.

 

Best regards,

Robin.

Wasn't giving it bad rep, just stating the facts that they are starting to be phased out.

 

...and wait till you fly an NDB approach while there is a lightning storm around... and then tell me their simpler.. :He He:

They are simpler (in terms of technology) which is why they swing and point at the lightning.

 

Best regards,

Robin.

They are simpler (in terms of technology) which is why they swing and point at the lightning.

 

Best regards,

Robin.

 

 

Doesn't that add a lot of atmosphere to the high-tech T7 flightdeck? NDBs don't get decommissioned quickly in my FSX scenery ...

I quite often fly the more arcane non-precision approaches even in modern aircraft, because it is a challenge to fly it accurately, and is ultimately a hell of a lot of fun.

 

Sure, it is great to get the automation to fly an ILS to Cat III minima, but it sure as hell isn't as much fun.

 

Best regards,

Robin.

 

 

because it is a challenge to fly it accurately

 

My Ground Instructor always told us, "A Non-Precision Approach is actually more precise than an ILS approach. Why? Because if you do not fly it precisely, then you will end up far away from the end of the runway!"

Absolutely!!!

 

Sure, NPA has higher minima, but flown properly you will be exactly where you think you should be when you break out of the clouds. There are some really great NPAs out there, particularly in mountainous areas. South America has plenty to try.

 

Best regards,

Robin.

nothing wrong with  good old VOR to VOR navigation - then a manual approach and landing with no ILS - and a good old VOR -DME approach - great fun to fly and tune them VOR frequencies....

Nothing like the satisfaction of flying an NDB hold and approach. Challenging, yet rewarding. Agree, likely to be more common to fly as a prop rather than a 777, but I may leave my ADF option installed anyway.

 

Is that an option in the FMC?
NDB installed or not installed?

 

It's not an option that's selectable via the CDU, no.  It's a difference between the models, currently (pax / F), I believe.

 

 

 

It's an option selectable through the CDU (not the FMC. The FMC is the avionic sitting down in the avionics bay. The CDU is the thing you access the FMC, PMDG OPTIONS, FS ACTIONS through).
 
How I know? Because other peoples screenshots have shown ADF L & R respectively instead of INOP.

 

Eh...the CDU just displays the option, but the option would rest in the FMC as part of the FMS.  What he said was fine.

 

...and it's not an option.  Take a look at the first video I put out.  It's just a difference between the pax / F models, currently (at least, last I checked).

In more and more countries, ADFs are no longer necessary for aircraft with RNP systems. The Australian regulator (CASA) has issued quite a few operators with approvals to use RNP 0.3 and GNSS to laterally navigate VOR and NDB approaches. That is, the approach can be flown without receiving VOR or NDB signals at all (including if the aid is unserviceable or if the aircraft is not fitted with an ADF). 

It's not an option that's selectable via the CDU, no.  It's a difference between the models, currently (pax / F), I believe.

 

 

 

 

Eh...the CDU just displays the option, but the option would rest in the FMC as part of the FMS.  What he said was fine.

 

...and it's not an option.  Take a look at the first video I put out.  It's just a difference between the pax / F models, currently (at least, last I checked).

 

Ok, thx for info that Kyle.

 

And for defending me ;-)

Interesting, I have yet to find a 777 flightdeck picture on the net with the inop. stickers...granted I haven't looked at every single one.

 

 

Eh...the CDU just displays the option, but the option would rest in the FMC as part of the FMS.  What he said was fine.

 

Not neccessarilly. The CDU can talk to other boxes in the bay, besides FMC. 

It's not an option that's selectable via the CDU, no.  It's a difference between the models, currently (pax / F), I believe.

 

 

 

 

Eh...the CDU just displays the option, but the option would rest in the FMC as part of the FMS.  What he said was fine.

 

...and it's not an option.  Take a look at the first video I put out.  It's just a difference between the pax / F models, currently (at least, last I checked).

Interesting.. Kinda weird, was hoping for an option cause some of our earlier birds were delivered with ADF's, the later ones not.

 

In regards to the FMC/CDU saga, PMDG OPTIONS selectable through the CDU menu is just the same as selecting SAT for example in the real aircraft.

 

Here in the real aircraft, we have SAT and CAB INT. Both the Satellite Phone and Cabin Interphone have nothing to do with the FMC. However, the are both selectable to control through the CDU.

 

..and in real life there is no option to just disable the ADF anyway (is that what you mean by real option? I am confused between when we are talking in reality or not ). On the MAINT pages there are a few AIRLINE POLICY variables, but thats about it;