Of course it will be my future platform... P3Dv2 will be the 5th upgrade/improvement on ESP (Microsoft's pro flightsim that was/is licensed to Lockheed Martin - NOT FSX!!)

So, why carry on with a sim that is about 7 years old that has never had any updates, ever? 

 

I have P3Dv1.4 that in any case is smoother than FSX (that I've dumped) on my system (laptop!). 

PMDG????? so what!! if I am so needy or anal for PMDG stuff, I'll re-load my FSX.

Yes PMDG is great, but not a deal breaker at all.

 

If you want to be entertained, keep on post your rants on the forums, watch a movie, play games.. etc..

For me, I get my 'entertainment' by a bit of structured flying (also known as training, as I am constantly learning.) 

 

This debate about entertainment vs training is like flogging a dead horse now!!

We are virtual pilots.. let's get back to that, instead of wasting time being armchair lawyers.

Well, now that you mention it, Ryan...

 

I have found that flying from one Orbx airport (say Cushman) to another (say Fall City, just a short hop away) really stresses the OOM boundaries on P3D 1.4, and I get the dreaded "circle of death" cursor with sound, but all locked up otherwise until it crashes. 

 

Just like FSX. Like father, like son. 

 

I hope the boys at LM have really cleaned up the bad memory management code in ESP...

 

OOM errors will never be fixed until P3D becomes a 64 bit program.  Anything that is a 32bit program is limited by it's VAS ceiling of 4GB, no matter how "clean" its programming is.  Once you hit that ceiling, your going to get OOM, weather it is FSX or P3Dv2.  All the code clean up will do its make it run more efficiently (maybe) lowering overhead and look prettier, but it won't solve OOMs if you bloat it with a ton of addons..

 

If P3D becomes 64bit one day, it will have access to all your installed memory (theoretically, it could use 8TB of VAS) and, unless you bloat your P3D with hundreds of addons, you would be hard pressed to OOM a 64bit program.

+1...definitely waiting.

 

I like FSX and I have it running fairly well for where I fly, but I am looking forward to P3D v2 and a smoother experience. While I can understand other's views, I just don't see a need to spend more money on FSX, I will delete it as soon I can get P3D v2 loaded and running (barring any major issues).

 

FTXG was really tempting me, but I’ll get it for P3D v2

I think many -1's will be converted or at least "Try it" when V2.1 comes out (multi-GPU support).

 

I have their developer license so I can't really say +1 since I've already got v1.4 and will get v2.0 with my dev license monthly renewal.

 

But beyond just the visuals, I'm very interested in their "mission" system and the SDK.

 

FSX is great also, with Steve's DX10 Controller it's really kept me interested in FSX.  Of course it's pretty easy still to get 5 fps and OOM which means no matter what we do, we compromise with FSX.  I'm hoping P3D will at least raise the ceiling on what we can do.

OOM errors will never be fixed until P3D becomes a 64 bit program.  Anything that is a 32bit program is limited by it's VAS ceiling of 4GB, no matter how "clean" its programming is.  Once you hit that ceiling, your going to get OOM, weather it is FSX or P3Dv2.  All the code clean up will do its make it run more efficiently (maybe) lowering overhead and look prettier, but it won't solve OOMs if you bloat it with a ton of addons..

 

If P3D becomes 64bit one day, it will have access to all your installed memory (theoretically, it could use 8TB of VAS) and, unless you bloat your P3D with hundreds of addons, you would be hard pressed to OOM a 64bit program.

 

  I really dont think you need to keep justifying why you wont be getting it.

I will probably forget about P3D. FSX is fine for me.

  I really dont think you need to keep justifying why you wont be getting it.

 

Sorry.  I didn't know there were rules and forum police.  Jeepers!  :rolleyes:  

 

I was only pointing out that the limitations of a 32bit program still apply...that's all.  Take it or leave it.  I was never rude, nor did I insult anyone. 

 

A good example on how this forum has really gone downhill in the past decade, and why I hardly hang out on these forums anymore.

Sorry.  I didn't know there were rules and forum police.  Jeepers!  :rolleyes:  

 

I was only pointing out that the limitations of a 32bit program still apply...that's all.  Take it or leave it.  I was never rude, nor did I insult anyone. 

 

A good example on how this forum has really gone downhill in the past decade, and why I hardly hang out on these forums anymore.

 

Certainly no forum police,   its just a one answer question.   I got confused that you had posted multiple times about the 64 bit issue, you only mentioned it in two different posts in this thread, my misunderstanding.

 

    I confused it with other posts you made about the same thing in other threads.

 

    Edit:  In fact I may have confused you with someone else all together so my apologies.

I haven't ruled P3D out, but I haven't ruled it in either. It'll depend on whether the reduced dependence on the processor will mean a performance increase on my system and also on how much P3D does out of the box that you need add-ons or mods to get in FSX. I tend to be a late adopter, so I'll be reading the reviews and the forums carefully before deciding. So in the meantime, if I need something for FSX, I'm buying it. 

Certainly no forum police,   its just a one answer question.   I got confused that you had posted multiple times about the 64 bit issue, you only mentioned it in two different posts in this thread, my misunderstanding.

 

    I confused it with other posts you made about the same thing in other threads.

 

    Edit:  In fact I may have confused you with someone else all together so my apologies.

 

No problem brother.  It's all good.

 

I'm one of those fence sitters, so maybe, just maybe, you guys will convince me to get it...  :lol:   We'll see how the story goes in the next month or two!!  I'll be lurking...  B)

-1 for me, Unless PMDG comes over to P3D, I stay with FSX.

I am a FSX man!!!!  Sure it looks beautiful P3D, but what about performance.  All those folks ready to jump will be the same folks complaining about fsx, with all sliders to the right:    stutters, blurries, rate frames, etc etc, so those calls will come right back again.

 

I will stay with what I got, running nicely with Steve's dx10 fixer, having and finally decent performance, why the heck do I have to change ?

 

Is this the new flavor the month???  I have had enogh headaches and stress and pain with fsx, this is going to be better!!!!  Noway no way!!!

 

I can't imagine flying without my realityXP GNS530

 

Dave

-1

 

Can't see any advantage so sticking with FSX.

Where goeth PMDG, so goeth I.

 

It looks good, and maybe in a few years once LM abandon the PC sim market, and the sim itself is settled, then I might consider it.

 

Show me something not related to graphics fidelity/performance that is better, and it might happen sooner.