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I keep wanting to do a flight but the necessary time/concentration/planning and setting up continually puts me off. I haven't flow in weeks now. Does anyone else ever feel like they are more interested in buying addons and playing with them a few times than they are interested in actually flying regularly?

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I think most of us get like that every now and then and it's partly our own fault for wanting more and more from developers.  The choice of high quality add-ons of all sorts is amazing and the temptation to get another one is often too great with the result being that we can end up 'playing' with them, as you say.

 

In fact, I can honestly say I've got add-ons that I've never installed, let alone learned how to use properly.  For me the thing that keeps it interesting is trying to learn vastly different types of aircraft, for example, I've been beta testing both the upcoming Just Flight EE Canberra and the Aerosoft EE Lightning of the last couple of months and have got totally absorbed into these classic British jets.  I've never really been into using military stuff in FS, having been of the opinion that there's not much to do with them, but when you start using complex add-ons that start doing weird thing because you've not learned how to use them....well things quickly become very engrossing.

 

So, try flying something very different for a while.

 

As for stuff like scenery, I've again got things I've never installed, including some ORBX NA.  But, since installing ORBX EU ENG, I'm just happy making short flights around England; stuff that I know I can do in less than an hour, because that's all I'm likely to have time for.

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I don't know about Paul Golding, but I would be more more motivated to fly if we had an FSX follow-on to the Dreamfleet 727... :lol:

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It happens to me every couple of years. Right now I'm not into it and decide to give iRacing a try. I'm having a lot of fun with that sim but of course its a whole different kind of sim, just drive and go. No charts, no weather addon and less time. I'll be back to flight simming eventually. :-)

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With wife and children, not to mention the responsability of that, I don't know the rest of you, it is harder and harder every day to have time to plan a complete full flight with complex add-ons. For example I have some time at night but i get most tired and only having time for really short trips, I remember some times when I almost fell asleep with the controls and or at final approach.

 

So, as Paul said, flying a different plane seems a good idea, it is convenient to opt for a simpler and easier aircraft in that circumstance.

 

When single, lots of time available, now I don't. I remember when I bought my PS3 and I only use it for streaming Netflix movies in bed, sadly but true but little time for simming these days.

 

Sometimes when I'm alone in the house and the wife and children are out, well that's a different story, I can make my best, more enjoyable and relaxing flights.

 

Anyway... a normal part of life, it happens a lot of us.

 

Cheers,

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This is from the FSX Learning Center under the J3 Cub:

 

"I don't fly for fun anymore," a pilot once confessed to me. "It's gotten boring."

Flying? Boring? What a thought!

"Maybe you're going about it the wrong way," I suggested. He looked perplexed. I asked how and what he usually flew. He answered that he had a high-performance twin-engine plane, and usually flew high to take advantage of the winds.

"So you're usually on an instrument flight plan?"

"Yes," he answered slowly.

"Do you use an autopilot?"

"Of course."

"Ah. Well, that's the problem," I said. "You're not flying. You're traveling—droning along, monitoring systems while the airplane flies and you wait to get wherever you're going. No wonder you're bored. What you need is..." I paused, trying to think about the best cure I could suggest for someone whose enjoyment of flight had gotten lost somewhere in the efficiency of technology, speed and automation.

"...what you need," I finally concluded, "is a Piper Cub."

 

Read the rest in the Learning Center.

 

I suggest the A2A Cub.

 

Hook

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With wife and children, not to mention the responsability of that, I don't know the rest of you, it is harder and harder every day to have time to plan a complete full flight with complex add-ons. For example I have some time at night but i get most tired and only having time for really short trips, I remember some times when I almost fell asleep with the controls and or at final approach.

 

So, as Paul said, flying a different plane seems a good idea, it is convenient to opt for a simpler and easier aircraft in that circumstance.

 

When single, lots of time available, now I don't. I remember when I bought my PS3 and I only use it for streaming Netflix movies in bed, sadly but true but little time for simming these days.

 

Sometimes when I'm alone in the house and the wife and children are out, well that's a different story, I can make my best, more enjoyable and relaxing flights.

 

Anyway... a normal part of life, it happens a lot of us.

 

Cheers,

 

Quite. Not a wife and kids but even working a 9-6 office job as an architect has ruined my free time. The very few free nights I get i'd rather spend with friends or dating than FS so weekends are my only time to fly and by then i'm too exhausted to sit in front of a computer! I need to roll back to my college days and lifestyle!

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It happens to me every couple of years. Right now I'm not into it and decide to give iRacing a try. I'm having a lot of fun with that sim but of course its a whole different kind of sim, just drive and go. No charts, no weather addon and less time. I'll be back to flight simming eventually. :-)

The problem with racing sims (I still love GPL) is working on setups! I spent more time tweaking my sim car than I ever did racing it! Still trying to beat 1:29 at Monza. :lol:

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I think because it can become so immersive its hard to just jump in a plane and fly, things like work get in the way in the week and stuff like housework lol . What i do is fly mainly at weekends then all I have to do is decide where I want to go. It can be frustrating when things get in the way, if only I could retire ( only 25 years to go!)

 

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I think because it can become so immersive its hard to just jump in a plane and fly, things like work get in the way in the week and stuff like housework lol . What i do is fly mainly at weekends then all I have to do is decide where I want to go. It can be frustrating when things get in the way, if only I could retire ( only 25 years to go!)

 

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We'll probably still be waiting for the next FSX by then so don't worry.

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I suggest the A2A Cub.

 

I absolutely second this suggestion, I went through a similar phase about a year ago and the A2A Cub (with Accu-Sim) was the perfect cure. Pull it out of the hangar (you can actually do that with Accu-Sim and the latest patch), hand-start the engine and go. You won't get anywhere fast, but then the Cub is all about the journey... :wink:

 

Tym

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I absolutely second this suggestion, I went through a similar phase about a year ago and the A2A Cub (with Accu-Sim) was the perfect cure. Pull it out of the hangar (you can actually do that with Accu-Sim and the latest patch), hand-start the engine and go. You won't get anywhere fast, but then the Cub is all about the journey... :wink:

 

Tym

 

Problem is I find GA boring without photoreal textures and weather addons, neither of which I have nor have the time to install :/

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Problem is I find GA boring without photoreal textures and weather addons, neither of which I have nor have the time to install :/

 

James, may I ask, have you Orbx sceneries?

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This is busy season in my field of work, so I've been relatively absent from the forums and fsx alike. I will be installing Orbx NorCal as soon as I get home however!

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Problem is I find GA boring without photoreal textures and weather addons, neither of which I have nor have the time to install :/

 

You're gonna be flying the Cub 1500 AGL.  This isn't the best place for photoreal textures.  Try flying over one of the high resolution cities instead.

 

If you've been simming for a while, this might be a good reason to reacquaint yourself with Chicago. 

 

Hook

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James, may I ask, have you Orbx sceneries?

 

 

I have no scenery, i find it expensive for what it is.

 

You're gonna be flying the Cub 1500 AGL.  This isn't the best place for photoreal textures.  Try flying over one of the high resolution cities instead.

 

If you've been simming for a while, this might be a good reason to reacquaint yourself with Chicago. 

 

Hook

 

Fair play, i've never ever used any addon scenery.

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I have no scenery, i find it expensive for what it is.

 

 

James, matey, here lies your problem! If it wasn't for Orbx sceneries I would probably have given up on FSX a long time ago! Do yourself a favour and download Orbx's Pacific Northwest V2 demo. It includes a full payware airport, KHQM. If that doesn't blow your socks off and make you want to fly every hour of the day, then nothing will! :lol: Heres' a taster of what you're missing... approaching Jackson Hole in the A2A 172...

 

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I go through this periodically.  In my case, it's usually a matter of complexity envy - I see all the PMDG (or equivalent) guys with all their systems and checklists and planning, and decide that that's really the way I want to fly.  And then I try it and break down because of all the moving parts and the time involved.  The problem is, I'm genuinely interested in that kind of aviation - airliners were my first love.  But the style of flying doesn't fit well into the rest of my life.  And more fundamentally, I'm not a big-organization person.  In my work, I don't have a lot of patience for rigid procedures and elaborate systems.  I'm more a creative, bang-stuff-together-until-it-turns-into-something kind of person.  I probably wouldn't survive five minutes working for a major airline.

 

So the other say, I fired up the Sibwings Antonov AN-2, and took the big snarling thing for a (still useful, freight-carrying) low and slow flight, and thought to myself, "yeah, that's it - I'm an outsider!  So what I need are outsider airplanes."  

 

Back, then, to the Antonov... and Manfred Jahn's DC-3... and the A2A B-17 for survey flights...  and I'm home.

 

There's an added issue, even with some of those.  Thanks to Accu-sim and similar feature-laden offerings, even getting a simple plane into the air can be an elaborate process.  So I've also cut myself some slack on this count - I've decided that it's OK if at times I just want to jump in and fly.  That's what the A2A Aircraft Factory planes are for.  And I might even (gasp!) consider a Carenado.

 

Your answer may be different, but for me, the important question was, what's your personality, and what airplanes really work with that?  Me, I'm back to the smell of oil and avgas and fried cylinders.  What's your style?

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I disassembled my sim some months back out of my own frustrations.  Sometimes I wasted so much time trying to get more performance out of my machine than I was flying and enjoying the sim.  I decided to give it a rest for a while and spec out a machine that I, perhaps, won't need to mess with as much and spend more time flying.  It's also given me time to sit back and evaluate what I wanted to do...what/where/how I wanted to fly.  In the mean time, some great new add-ons are coming out.  All in all, the break has been good and, while I'm getting the itch again, I feel like I've reset my direction in good ways.

 

Gregg

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I disassembled my sim some months back out of my own frustrations.  Sometimes I wasted so much time trying to get more performance out of my machine than I was flying and enjoying the sim.  I decided to give it a rest for a while and spec out a machine that I, perhaps, won't need to mess with as much and spend more time flying.  It's also given me time to sit back and evaluate what I wanted to do...what/where/how I wanted to fly.  In the mean time, some great new add-ons are coming out.  All in all, the break has been good and, while I'm getting the itch again, I feel like I've reset my direction in good ways.

 

Gregg

 

I think you're right Gregg. Simming is a little like being married, a short time away from each other often reignites the fire :wink:

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Got photoreal stereo 3d glasses and basic ga planes keep me busy for a long while. If fuel was cheap be back to cruising on the road as love to wander. Anything that FMC type work all never brother with it as don't need 2nd job.

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James, matey, here lies your problem! If it wasn't for Orbx sceneries I would probably have given up on FSX a long time ago! Do yourself a favour and download Orbx's Pacific Northwest V2 demo. It includes a full payware airport, KHQM. If that doesn't blow your socks off and make you want to fly every hour of the day, then nothing will! :lol: Heres' a taster of what you're missing... approaching Jackson Hole in the A2A 172...

 

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Good point Rockliffe!

 

James,

I would never have gotten back not Fsx if it wasn't for Orbx, and weather addons like REX and ASN. Game changer!

 

The addons are not expensive for what they are. ( unless you buy them and then don't use them!). Also, they were practically giving the Orbx stuff away during the Xmas season. Kept an eye out for sales.

 

B.

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I keep wanting to do a flight but the necessary time/concentration/planning and setting up continually puts me off. I haven't flow in weeks now. Does anyone else ever feel like they are more interested in buying addons and playing with them a few times than they are interested in actually flying regularly?

Yea, I get that way all the time I usually I switch the kind of plane I fly IE from heavys to GA planes 

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Yep, I know the feeling. I now have a caffe mocha vodka valium latte and it all comes back. I don't even tweek anymore LOL :Party:

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As a diehard heavy ifr only simpilot, I know the feeling very well. Day after day of looking at the pc only to turn away, not motivated to set up even the most basic flight with some realism (for us that's minimum 15 minutes). 

Tried GA many times, always like for a while but get bored so that's not really an option once sim-weariness sets in. 

I'm just now coming back from what became YEARS of essentially little or no simming. Don't worry, the passion does return. Best cure is time doing other stuff, but stick around the forums, watch others fly on YT - eventually the inner aviator yearns to soar once more. B)

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