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Anyone with the latest on the IXEG 737 CL?

Anyone with the latest on the IXEG 737 CL?

Nothing other than "work continues" (Aug. 3, 2014). Things have been pretty quiet since they posted the demo flight videos.

http://forums.x-pilot.com/topic/939-the-b737-classic-project/page-57

More guess on no release this year.

Very much so. We have taken a bit of a break this summer but are steadily working on the FMS system. There is simply not much to show during this phase. A whole lot of core code has to be written before the fun stuff can be seen. We are well into it though and moving along steadily. It will be many months yet; however, the FMS is the last significant work to be done before we begin to prepare for distribution.

 

TomK

It will be many months yet

many months

:mellow:

The FMS will make or break the deal. That's where most addons fall short.

The FMS will make or break the deal. That's where most addons fall short.

 

True.

 

As an example I find that when I compare the Flight Factor 777 FMS to the one in the PMDG 777 there's some really significant differences in capabilities. Some people might not notice them but little things such as not being able to do RVSM step climbs, lateral offsets, enter manual step climbs on legs page etc. Makes it difficult if you're trying to work with flight plans using PFPX.

 

Also I think the de-rated TO and assumed temp thrust calculations are still way off on the FF 777, makes it impossible to use programs such as TOPCAT with it.

 

From what I've seen so far of the IXEG 737 and the attention to detail I think they've got this area well covered.

The FMS will make or break the deal. That's where most addons fall short.

 

The FMS seems to be the most important part in a plane ... much more important :huh: than engines, aerodynamics, hydraulics, ... you name it ... There are planes out there (even) in real life which haven't an FMS - but actually these are not really planes .

The FMS seems to be the most important part in a plane ... much more important :huh: than engines, aerodynamics, hydraulics, ... you name it ... There are planes out there (even) in real life which haven't an FMS - but actually these are not really planes .

 

The point I'm trying to make is that many developers try to implement an FMC but fall short, and then you're left struggling to fly a plane that does unexpected things that can sometimes end your flight. I'm not saying that you have to have an FMC, I actually fly more models that don't have one (great models). But what I am saying is that if a developer chooses to implement the FMC, (or any system for that matter) then it has to work. And if it's too complicated, then release it with less functionality, but be up front about it. A full function FMC is a tall task to take on for a developer. So the bottom line is if you take the path, then make sure you get to the end. I would rather have less functionality than more but with bugs.

The FMS will make or break the deal. That's where most addons fall short.

This thing looks GORGEOUS and the sounds just add to the anticipation. While I can't speak for the actual flight characteristics, engines, aerodynamics, etc., (or really for anything other than what's presented in the vids), if they are a fraction of the quality of the model's appearance, it's going to be first rate. I can't wait for this bird to be released......I do agree, however, that it would be a shame to release it with a less than adequate FMS and, from what I've gleaned from the devs, I don't think that's gonna happen. 

I also want to say that they deserve a huge amount of respect for the work that appears to have gone into this.  :Applause: I feel like a kid at Christmas....... :Praying:

Flyboymikey

 

 

Your are right about the assumed temp- derate being way off on the ff777. The pmdg is the way to go if you want a 777

"Personally I hate flying the heavies or anything else with an FMS it's just like flying a ........eeerrrrrhh......."

 

 

The FMS seems to be the most important part in a plane ... much more important than engines, aerodynamics, hydraulics, ... you name it ... There are planes out there (even) in real life which haven't an FMS - but actually these are not really planes .

 

I think if you're simulating an airliner to maximum detail then the FMS is extremely important as this is the 'bread and butter' of flying these types of aircraft. I think it's just as important as engines, flight model, hydraulics etc and should not be overlooked. Sure you can opt to have a simpler model with a more 'basic' or no FMC, but you're just not going to learn as much IMO. If like me you master flying the model on a basic level then you'll just end up 'thirsting' for something more challenging and more complex that operates EXACTLY like it does in real life.

 

GA planes and older generation jets don't have an FMS but they're a different kettle of fish entirely.

 

 

Your are right about the assumed temp- derate being way off on the ff777. The pmdg is the way to go if you want a 777

 

I think FF did a much better job overall on their 757.

I can't beleive you feel an FMC makes a flight more challenging, that's a first.

I can't beleive you feel an FMC makes a flight more challenging, that's a first.

 

Well depends on how you look at it. If you've never used one before then yes, it would be more challenging. If you simply program an FMC and push autopilot right after take-off then probably not so challenging.

 

It's challenging flying IFR using radio nav aids like in the FJSim 727 and 737 but you'd normally use an FMC if simulating airliner ops in a modern jet.