Patronising comments not really appreciated, Kyle. I set up my flight simulator to suit me, not to suit what someone else thinks is realistic. Whether you are right or wrong is totally irrelevant.

Bingo.

 

People who have been there try to simulate being there.

 

Simmers simulate what they expect being there would feel like.  Apparently that means developing wide angle vision.  Unforunately, the FAA never set up my appointment with my optometrist.  I thought that came standard with the license, and I got it seven years ago.

 

...holy crap...I just realized it was actually today...

 

Bit of a sweeping generalization there, I set my zoom to 0.6 so I can see the PFD, ND and upper EICAS in one screen as using the hat switch whilst hand flying is nigh on impossible on my setup. Realistic or not, I do not have eyes I can dart quickly in one direction to the next within FSX so to simplify and workaround the problem, I zoom out.

 

The displays do not become blurred or jagged for me at 0.6 zoom, i can read them perfectly fine. Live and let live?

 

 

Live and let live?

 

I don't recall where I said you couldn't do what you wanted...

 

I simply stated that simmers simulate what they expect.

I think to get the best feeling of being inside the flightdeck you should get a monitor just to show the screens, PFD, ND, Engine, when use another one to show the external view. Doesn't get much better than that in my opinion. Showing the PFD, ND as small boxes in the middle of the virtual cockpit doesn't feel very realistic to me. They should be shown at proper size. Unfortunately I don't have that setup here.

I think to get the best feeling of being inside the flightdeck you should get a monitor just to show the screens, PFD, ND, Engine, when use another one to show the external view. Doesn't get much better than that in my opinion. Showing the PFD, ND as small boxes in the middle of the virtual cockpit doesn't feel very realistic to me. They should be shown at proper size. Unfortunately I don't have that setup here.

 

This is also what i do on a low cost setup. Using a second monitor for PFD/ND anyway and a Takeoff/Approach/Taxi view setup with EZCA looking just outside from the frame on my main monitor.

 

I do still think that the height to the ground is not that well simulated. It feels like i am 1 meter from the ground looking outside

 

Michael

I don't recall where I said you couldn't do what you wanted...

 

I simply stated that simmers simulate what they expect.

 

Then do not be as judgemental

I do still think that the height to the ground is not that well simulated. It feels like i am 1 meter from the ground looking outside

 

 

Can anyone post a comparative screenshot with the 777 and the 737 sitting at the same runway threshold with the same view?

I don't seem to have a problem with respect to the difference between the 777 and the 737NGX as far as height above the ground is concerned. The runway and taxiway markings look further away when looking out of the 777 cockpit, and the difference is obvious when parked at the gate!

I don't seem to have a problem with respect to the difference between the 777 and the 737NGX as far as height above the ground is concerned. The runway and taxiway markings look further away when looking out of the 777 cockpit, and the difference is obvious when parked at the gate!

Agreed! Also, if you go to the PMDG 747 that is definitely higher than the 737 as the cockpit is higher than that in the 777 being as it is on the upper deck whereas the 777 is all on one level. I can see the difference in all three.

 

On the zoom factor I have been using 0.5 but I will try 0.8 and see how it goes. I know when I recently had a session in a 737NG fixed base procedural simulator the first thing that struck me was how large the PFD, ND and EICAS were compared to how they look in FSX. Same applies to the FMC and the switches.

 

Someone said that the overhead panel should be lowered. I think they're right. The perception in the real cockpit is that it is much lower than it appears to be in FSX.

 

Iain Smith

 

Someone said that the overhead panel should be lowered. I think they're right. The perception in the real cockpit is that it is much lower than it appears to be in FSX.

 

 

Actually, the whole cockpit feels much smaller in the real aircraft than on FSX. And the farther out you zoom, the larger the cockpit looks, which is unrealistic.

 

If anyone has the chance to get into a real 737 cockpit, everything looks so crammed. I think the pilot can reach to the cockpit door handle from his seat without stretching too much. The overhead is pretty low (which makes sense, one has to be able to reach the upper overhead from his seat), and the space between the compass and the glareshield is one extended hand (from the thumb to the little finger).

I got the chance to see a handful of airliner cockpits up close at the National Museum of Flight at East Fortune, Scotland last year, and I was surprised at just how small they looked!

Agreed! Also, if you go to the PMDG 747 that is definitely higher than the 737 as the cockpit is higher than that in the 777 being as it is on the upper deck whereas the 777 is all on one level. I can see the difference in all three.

 

On the zoom factor I have been using 0.5 but I will try 0.8 and see how it goes. I know when I recently had a session in a 737NG fixed base procedural simulator the first thing that struck me was how large the PFD, ND and EICAS were compared to how they look in FSX. Same applies to the FMC and the switches.

 

Someone said that the overhead panel should be lowered. I think they're right. The perception in the real cockpit is that it is much lower than it appears to be in FSX.

 

Iain Smith

you can definitely see the difference in height between these aircraft in the sim yes for sure. but it just doesn't feel anything like it does in real life regarding the feeling of height off the ground. i think that's the gist of what people are saying here.those who have experienced the real thing i mean...including myself. the sim simply cannot replicate that feeling unfortunately.

 

 

cheers

 

kav

 

 

as using the hat switch whilst hand flying is nigh on impossible on my setup

The hat switch is useless. I use mouse+spacebar. Much quicker and more accurate.

The hat switch is useless. I use mouse+spacebar. Much quicker and more accurate.

 

Agreed - started using that in the last few years and haven't looked back.

mouse with scroll wheel(pressed) mapped to space bar is best when you dont have a spare hand to press the space bar

 

 

kav