Why are we so worried if someone dislikes your posts? Who cares..... if someone dislikes your post so be it. I've disliked, liked, agreed, disagreed etc etc on many posts and don't believe I have to explain myself each time.

 

It's okay for people to have different opinions. Don't stress it.

 

Hirdy

Because, Jay, I think its cowardly.  Instead of pressing "Dislike", perhaps the system should make a user state a reason why  they dislike your post.

 

There also seems to be a increase of new members with only a few posts who are quick to hit the dislike button.

Because, Jay, I think its cowardly.  Instead of pressing "Dislike", perhaps the system should make a user state a reason why  they dislike your post.

 

There also seems to be a increase of new members with only a few posts who are quick to hit the dislike button.

 

One has to assume that new members can dislike something just as much as longtime members :Peace: . I do agree though that one should be required to state the reason for their dislike of posts. If they are moved enough to dislike then they should have the cojones to come out and state their case.

Or, you know, just remove the dislike and disagree buttons completely. If some feels that they disagree with you, or dislikes your post, they'd be compelled to explain why. If they don't, then they can suffer in silence. Making it compulsory to use some form of thinking in order to disagree with someone would allow for better conversation, and better discussions, rather than mindlessly hitting the disagree button and thinking to ourselves: "Yes. My thoughts and reasoning is justified."

From what I can see, there is very little abuse of the dislike. I understand that it is very "pc" nowadays to aim for that warm, cuddly, all embracing and protective

 

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Oops .... pressed send by mistake. Avsim is a very mild community and there is no real abuse here. If you can't take the odd dislike or disagreement then really, you should not be on the Internet. Maybe they should introduce a "I cannot give two hoots" button? And yes, it is good manners to take the time to at least add a quick explanation to a "dislike", but surely not compulsory.

 

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One has to assume that new members can dislike something just as much as longtime members :Peace: . I do agree though that one should be required to state the reason for their dislike of posts. If they are moved enough to dislike then they should have the cojones to come out and state their case.

 

 

People should be able to dislike without a reason.  DO you give a reason for everything you do???  This is an entitlement issue where people think the world owes them something or a reason must be given for whatever a person does. :unsure:​  In most cases it should be obvious for the 'Dislike' of a post in other cases it's rare the button is hit for a otherwise friendly perspective.  Bottom line is people don't owe you anything and be thankful your post had any relevance for someone to comment one way or another.  Let's move on from the 'Nanny' state shall we...  :Cuppa:

 

 

Or, you know, just remove the dislike and disagree buttons completely. If some feels that they disagree with you, or dislikes your post, they'd be compelled to explain why.

I personally do not like that idea, to be honest, because I think that particularly the disagree button can really reduce the amount - rather unnecessary - of posts, if it's about something as simple as saying I disagree with you (because that's actually more or less a black and white thing). Moreover, I think that the current reputation system (positive/neutral/negative) can quite well indicate, whether someone is usually helpful and fair (read: neutral) or has a tendency to make inappropriate or polarizing comments.

On the other hand, you are of course right - when you can't simply "hide" behind a vote (with the current voting system it actually isn't hiding at all!) you either have to have the guts to post your opinion, or keep your disagreement all to yourself. Maybe that would encourage some more discussion - but it would also increase the need for strict moderation.

Or, you know, just remove the dislike and disagree buttons completely. If some feels that they disagree with you, or dislikes your post, they'd be compelled to explain why. If they don't, then they can suffer in silence. Making it compulsory to use some form of thinking in order to disagree with someone would allow for better conversation, and better discussions, rather than mindlessly hitting the disagree button and thinking to ourselves: "Yes. My thoughts and reasoning is justified."

 

 

It's a basic human right to 'disagree'.  To cut back on a lengthy thread with back and forth a simple hit of a button cut's down the drama.  If one person 'Disliked' a comment and you had 7 'Likes' how does that play out on your eyes?  Many of you are getting mad because it's not only one person that has voted approving of your post but 5 and to some this can't happen.  You want five or ten 'Dislike' voters to all explain themselves?  In reality out of 5 'Dislike' votes one of those people almost always comments as to why they voted that way.  If it's one vote who cares.  It's really bizarre some of you get so worked up if someone disagrees with your point of view and you want an explanation that surely your not going to ever agree with.  I'm starting to really see why we have such a serious problem with religious wars throughout the world.  If your demanding a reason/fight in here over a simple vote in opposition to your point of view I can just imagine how this would play out on people's core beliefs.  My since is vote/post however you like as long as it's not rude and understand your view might not be everyone's view.  Last but not least silencing apposing views unless you can get them in a mud fight is not the answer either it just get's more threads locked...

It's a basic human right to 'disagree'.  To cut back on a lengthy thread with back and forth a simple hit of a button cut's down the drama.  If one person 'Disliked' a comment and you had 7 'Likes' how does that play out on your eyes?  Many of you are getting mad because it's not only one person that has voted approving of your post but 5 and to some this can't happen.  You want five or ten 'Dislike' voters to all explain themselves?  In reality out of 5 'Dislike' votes one of those people almost always comments as to why they voted that way.  If it's one vote who cares.  It's really bizarre some of you get so worked up if someone disagrees with your point of view and you want an explanation that surely your not going to ever agree with.  I'm starting to really see why we have such a serious problem with religious wars throughout the world.  If your demanding a reason/fight in here over a simple vote in opposition to your point of view I can just imagine how this would play out on people's core beliefs.  My since is vote/post however you like as long as it's not rude and understand your view might not be everyone's view.  Last but not least silencing apposing views unless you can get them in a mud fight is not the answer either it just get's more threads locked...

 

" It's really bizarre some of you get so worked up if someone disagrees with your point of view"

You have ten posts in this thread so far, would it not be fair to surmise that you might be the one most worked up about exercising your point of view on the matter under discussion.

"It's a basic human right to 'disagree'."

"I'm starting to really see why we have such a serious problem with religious wars throughout the world."

If you've been to any warzones you'll know that there are no basic human rights at all when someone points a weapon at you assuming he has no respect for the idea of rights which is often a safe assumption.

"Last but not least silencing apposing views unless you can get them in a mud fight is not the answer either it just get's more threads locked..."

I don't think anyone is trying to silence anyone, in fact it seems like some are trying to promote speaking out. Surely you can't disagree with the promotion of voicing ones opinion given your position on rights?

 

 

It's a basic human right to 'disagree'.  To cut back on a lengthy thread with back and forth a simple hit of a button cut's down the drama.  If one person 'Disliked' a comment and you had 7 'Likes' how does that play out on your eyes?  Many of you are getting mad because it's not only one person that has voted approving of your post but 5 and to some this can't happen.  You want five or ten 'Dislike' voters to all explain themselves?  In reality out of 5 'Dislike' votes one of those people almost always comments as to why they voted that way.  If it's one vote who cares.  It's really bizarre some of you get so worked up if someone disagrees with your point of view and you want an explanation that surely your not going to ever agree with.  I'm starting to really see why we have such a serious problem with religious wars throughout the world.  If your demanding a reason/fight in here over a simple vote in opposition to your point of view I can just imagine how this would play out on people's core beliefs.  My since is vote/post however you like as long as it's not rude and understand your view might not be everyone's view.  Last but not least silencing apposing views unless you can get them in a mud fight is not the answer either it just get's more threads locked...

 

There is one critical flaw with your argument. This is a forum. We are meant to encourage discussion. Blindly voting for or against something is contrary to the idea of a discussion. I couldn't care less whether my opinions are popular or not, but if someone disagrees, I'd like to see why, so if their reason is just, I'd have learnt something new, and be enlightened about an opposing viewpoint. Again, this is a FORUM.

 

It is always naturally assume people want to know who voted against them because their egos are damaged. This is not true for me, yet, I speak for only myself in this matter. 

I see we are now getting into the "thread is too long for me to be bothered to read it, so now I will simply rehash things that have already been said to indulge my narcissism" portion of this discussion  :lol:

Forum will be better with only a like button! 

Imagine facebook with dislike buttons it would be a mess.

You mean, a bit like the totally pointless system they have at eBay these days?

There is one critical flaw with your argument. This is a forum. We are meant to encourage discussion. Blindly voting for or against something is contrary to the idea of a discussion. I couldn't care less whether my opinions are popular or not, but if someone disagrees, I'd like to see why, so if their reason is just, I'd have learnt something new, and be enlightened about an opposing viewpoint. Again, this is a FORUM.

 

It is always naturally assume people want to know who voted against them because their egos are damaged. This is not true for me, yet, I speak for only myself in this matter. 

 

I hear ya, but I have to restate something that Dillon said in the very post you quoted.

 

If I'm reading a thread and I come across a post that has been disliked, and as is most often the case, it is immediately followed by a post that exactly explains why, what purpose is served by my adding another post that repeats the same things again ? Why can I not just add my votes to the tally ?

 

You'll see it all the time here, where  a post that has 5 Dislikes/Disagrees is followed by a post with 5 Likes/Agrees, it's pretty easy at that point to determine what the deal is. I don't see the need to pile on if someone else has already stated what I would have anyway. In fact, that might actually make things worse. 

 

In addition, earlier in the thread someone made the point that more often than not, a person may not want to deal with the attitudes some members exhibit. Hard to say I blame them.

 

It's interesting to me also because, with many other forums that I visit, that are much larger than this one, not only are members allowed to vote on posts as we do here, but once a post reaches a certain level of down votes, it is hidden from view. I can only imagine how that would go over here  :lol:

 

Repeating what I said pages back, I do not believe there is anywhere near as much mystery to this as some of you are claiming. I think the bigger issue is that some of you don't like having your comments judged without the ability to directly confront those that have voted against something you've said. You want to make a thing out of it, and under the current system, you can't.

It's interesting to me also because, with many other forums that I visit, that are much larger than this one, not only are members allowed to vote on posts as we do here, but once a post reaches a certain level of down votes, it is hidden from view. I can only imagine how that would go over here  :lol:

Actually, a similar system is in place now for all members with 1000+ posts under their belt. Note the new option "Troll/Spam". If enough members (I don't know the threshold value!) click on that option, the post in question will be hidden from view.