Nice prospects PMDG. Keep the fantastic work on!

I'm not going to ask anymore.

I wonder what the base pack will be. Based on the least desirable (IMO) -200LR being released first, with the 777-300ER and possibly -200ERs coming in separate packs, I would not be surprised if we see the 747-400 and F with PW engines is the release package, with the GE and RR coming separately. Either that or RR first, but realistically I think the GE will be the add-on...

I wonder what the base pack will be. Based on the least desirable (IMO) -200LR being released first, with the 777-300ER and possibly -200ERs coming in separate packs, I would not be surprised if we see the 747-400 and F with PW engines is the release package, with the GE and RR coming separately. Either that or RR first, but realistically I think the GE will be the add-on...

 

I really don't understand why people assume PMDG released the 200LR/F as some spiteful measure towards the sim community.  The 200LR/F and 300ER use the same single-engine type philosophy.  As such, it's really easy to develop for.  You only have to make one flight dynamics model.

 

It's like we said at the FAA:

"Pick the low hanging fruit first."

 

If you look back into PMDG history a little bit (okay, so maybe a decade now...wow), you'll notice that the original 747 came out with all three engine types, but it was all modeled off of a GE variant (I believe).  So the sounds and displays changed with the various engine types - there was only GE data, though.

 

I highly doubt PMDG will release the plane engine type by engine type.  That's just asinine.  Who said the 200ERs would be separate packs?

I never said it was spiteful . It's just a commercial tactic. The 200ERs would be contained in a single extra pack - that's my thinking anyway. Business models do change and 10 years is a long time.

 

Best regards

 

 

I never said it was spiteful . It's just a commercial tactic. The 200ERs would be contained in a single extra pack - that's my thinking anyway. Business models do change and 10 years is a long time.

 

Seemed like you were inferring that it was just an attempt at a money grab.  Sure, business models change, but I wouldn't argue that PMDG has been in the habit of releasing products along the lines of simple money grabs.

 

I agree that the 200ERs would be a single extra pack.  I see what you'd intended with that statement after re-reading it.  Still doesn't explain your comments about the 744 engine types coming separately.

 

The way you wrote the post I quoted, it seemed like you were making the assertion that they'd release the least-desired product out there to force you to buy it as the base pack.  I'd argue that your point (if I've assessed it correctly) doesn't have much merit to it based on past experience.

The way you wrote the post I quoted, it seemed like you were making the assertion that they'd release the least-desired product out there to force you to buy it as the base pack.  I'd argue that your point (if I've assessed it correctly) doesn't have much merit to it based on past experience.

 

How do you know that isn't what they did?

How do you know that isn't what they did?

Their past behaviors make it pretty obvious...

Their past behaviors make it pretty obvious...

Exactly. The base pack for the 737 included the 800, the most popular of the NG series. The 600 and 700 were add-ons.

Their past behaviors make it pretty obvious...

That doesn't mean they didn't do it for the 777. I don't believe they did either but you can't dismiss it as nonsense unless you hear from PMDG themselves.

That doesn't mean they didn't do it for the 777. I don't believe they did either but you can't dismiss it as nonsense unless you hear from PMDG themselves.

They stated multiple times exactly what I stated earlier:

The 777 DEV schedule was the way it was in order to streamline development. The 200LR/F and 300ER all use a common engine.

 

Their words.

How about a picture or two to whet our appetites with Kyle?

 

 

That doesn't mean they didn't do it for the 777. I don't believe they did either but you can't dismiss it as nonsense unless you hear from PMDG themselves.

 

Seemed like you were inferring that it was just an attempt at a money grab. Sure, business models change, but I wouldn't argue that PMDG has been in the habit of releasing products along the lines of simple money grabs.

 

I agree with Kyle that it is very obvious that PMDG has not a 'money grabbing' policy or business model. No need of PMDG confirming it.

 

With SP1 we almost got a complete redesign of systems of the 77L. Many other add-on providers would have charged for a SP that services much more than just some bugs, but gives us additional functionality and a correction of what PMDG admitted they modelled wrong (FBW). Other developpers wouldn't have even admitted this and just stayed quite about it. We weren't even forced to buy the -300 to get access to the full SP.

 

The only commercial tactic I see is their professionalism that made me and others buy it.

 

In everything that PMDG has done since I discovered them, I just can see that it is a company that loves our hobby and loves to serve it.

However it remains a commercial company and needs to make money. But 'money grabbing' just sounds very wrong when related to PMDG and I'm sure that only assuming it in public on this forum must be hurting and painful to at least some members of their team.

I agree with Kyle that it is very obvious that PMDG has not a 'money grabbing' policy or business model. No need of PMDG confirming it.

 

With SP1 we almost got a complete redesign of systems of the 77L. Many other add-on providers would have charged for a SP that services much more than just some bugs, but gives us additional functionality and a correction of what PMDG admitted they modelled wrong (FBW). Other developpers wouldn't have even admitted this and just stayed quite about it. We weren't even forced to buy the -300 to get access to the full SP.

 

The only commercial tactic I see is their professionalism that made me and others buy it.

 

In everything that PMDG has done since I discovered them, I just can see that it is a company that loves our hobby and loves to serve it.

However it remains a commercial company and needs to make money. But 'money grabbing' just sounds very wrong when related to PMDG and I'm sure that only assuming it in public on this forum must be hurting and painful to at least some members of their team.

+1

 

I really wish the "like" button was put back.

Seeing as once the 777-300ER comes out, the 747-400v2 is the next all-new product that we'll be getting from PMDG, unless the DC-6 busts out ahead.  I've been wondering if PMDG will model the Domestic -400D, the combi -400M, and the Qantas -400ER models along with the standard -400 and the -8.  Any thoughts?

 

i think it would be awesome if PMDG would model all (or as manyas possible) variants of an aircraft.