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Emergency Landing Caught On Tape

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routine training flight

engine starts sputtering 30sec into the clip

instructor takes over and crash land in a field; all caught on tape

 

 

transcript

0:09 TOWER - AIW respond to LLMG

0:12 AIW - LLMG responding to LLMG

0:16 AIW - LLMG Hello, AIW approaching Afula (the town ahead) 1500ft for landing

0:22 TOWER - AIW LLMG 1500ft approaching afula

0:27 Student to Instructor - are you taking over?

0:28 Instructor - oh no

0:32 Student - What happened

0:34 Instructor - im taking over, im taking over

0:41 AIW (calling Tower) - Pluto?

0:43 Tower - LLMG

0:47 AIW - with you in a second

0:49 AIW - my engine about to shout off

0:52 Tower - HG 1500ft to Sharon by 2993 (instructions to LLMG for another incoming aircraft)

0:56 Instructor to Student - looks like crash landing in the field

1:01 AIW - Pluto Mayday Mayday Mayday AIW

1:07 Instructor - ooh no, what is going on there?

1:12 AIW - Pluto AIW Mayday Mayday Mayday

1:16 Tower - what's your emergency

1:18 AIW - my engine is sputtering and about to shot off

1:22 AIW - im around Afula; i will be crash landing on a field

1:27 Tower - crash landing on a field? will you be able to land it?

1:29 AIW - affirmative

1:13 Tower - roger that; do you need emergency services sent over?

1:35 AIW - going to land... hmm on the east side of Afula

1:39 Tower - roger that; east side of Afula, if you need help let me know

1:44 AIW - rgr

1:45 Student - are we landing the field?

1:46 Instructor - yes

1:57 Instructor - hold on tight

2:00 Instructor - protect your head

2:14 Instructor - going to hit the trees!

2:28 Instructor - out

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I find the constant pumping of the throttle while neglecting of the mixture and mags very interesting. I wonder what went wrong?

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if your volume is high enough; you can hear the engine chooking

 

i find the coolness the pilot kept

and gracefully controlling the land and crash; just phenomenal

down to the point of selecting where to hit

 

he declaers as they touch; he is going for the trees

and he is telling the other guy to brace useing the top handle

as they head toward the line of trees; amaizing

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That looked smoother than every landing i have ever made in the Q400

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Love the banking at really low altitude and the choice of the landing area. Two very fortunate people in that plane ...

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I find the constant pumping of the throttle while neglecting of the mixture and mags very interesting. I wonder what went wrong?

 

Yes, this is very interesting. Why they were ignoring mixture control? It's essential to avoid fouling and choking. And what about throttle pumping? Is that a procedure or ignorance?

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"Tape?" Showing our age Chris? :Just Kidding:

 

Seriously, that was truly a remarkable "crash", which was rather more of a controlled emergency landing, using the gap between the rather tiny trees rather effectively!

 

I truly wish the pilot had taken the GoPro out and shown the "damage." I have a suspicion that there wasn't much more than some leading edge wing dents. :Applause:

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"Tape?" Showing our age Chris? Just%20Kidding.gif

 

 

lol :rolleyes:

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I would have switched mags,tanks, hit the aux fuel pump,tried adjusting the mixture, turning on the carb heat ect if it still wouldn't restart and if it had a manual primer(I think 152s do been years since I've been in one) I'd run that in and out a few times to see if I could get some fuel into the engine. It sounds like the engine was responding some what to his throttle inputs so it might have had a blockage in the fuel line or carb ice.

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I would be more curios to know if the full checklist was gone through and there regular maintenance for that aircraft.

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if your volume is high enough; you can hear the engine chooking

 

i find the coolness the pilot kept

and gracefully controlling the land and crash; just phenomenal

down to the point of selecting where to hit

 

he declaers as they touch; he is going for the trees

and he is telling the other guy to brace useing the top handle

as they head toward the line of trees; amaizing

Glad someone here understands Hebrew.

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For those of you saying you would have done things differently... then you learned nothing from watching that video.

 

Both walked away with no more than a story to tell for it. That's the best outcome possible and clearly that instructor knew exactly what to do to accomplish that.

 

The instructor did everything correctly.

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For those of you saying you would have done things differently... then you learned nothing from watching that video.Both walked away with no more than a story to tell for it. That's the best outcome possible and clearly that instructor knew exactly what to do to accomplish that.The instructor did everything correctly.

Yes but an off field landing may have been avoided if he had taken other measures to restart the engine.

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Yes but an off field landing may have been avoided if he had taken other measures to restart the engine.

The key part of your statement is the word 'may'. Doing the things in your list may have gotten them killed or seriously injured because there is nothing in your list that has a guaranteed engine start let alone one that's soon enough to avoid having to put the aircraft down or smacking into something. The only thing your list of actions guarantees is that it changes the location of the crash.

 

Like I stated, the instructor made the correct choices.

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The key part of your statement is the word 'may'. Doing the things in your list may have gotten them killed or seriously injured because there is nothing in your list that has a guaranteed engine start let alone one that's soon enough to avoid having to put the aircraft down or smacking into something. The only thing your list of actions guarantees is that it changes the location of the crash.Like I stated, the instructor made the correct choices.

I was tought when the engine quits you climb until you reach best glide,while doing that find a place to set down, and try to restart the engine. If you cant restart pop the door shutoff the fuel and get ready to land. He did a great job no doubt but if I was the PIC I would have tried some other things to restart the engine.

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I was tought when the engine quits you climb until you reach best glide,while doing that find a place to set down, and try to restart the engine. If you cant restart pop the door shutoff the fuel and get ready to land. He did a great job no doubt but if I was the PIC I would have tried some other things to restart the engine.

You are one PIC I would not climb into an aircraft with.

 

Take a moment and review the video, check the aircraft's altitude and airspeed. Based on everything I see in the video, that instructor did... just as I've already stated... everything correctly.

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You are one PIC I would not climb into an aircraft with.Take a moment and review the video, check the aircraft's altitude and airspeed. Based on everything I see in the video, that instructor did... just as I've already stated... everything correctly.

He was what looks like 1500 feet when the engine starts to fail, it doesn't take but a few seconds to switch tanks,adjust the mixture,hit the aux fuel pump switch ect. There was also what looked like a highway that they passed over which I would have landed on vs the field if I couldn't have got the engine restarted. Hind sight is 20/20 and I have no idea what caused the engine to fail, like I've said he did a great job but I would have tried a few things to get the engine restarted. I learned to fly in a heavily forested area with mountains all around so a clear landing spot is not always easy to find so in some cases you better hope to God the engine restarts or you'll be pulling branches out of your bum for a few weeks if your lucky enough to live through it.

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It's difficult to tell what was wrong with the engine from the video. But obviously some power output problem. He seemed to change his mind as to what field to land in. If you've got power then that's ok. His landing speed was excesively fast and he ended up in a ditch. Had that ditch been any deeper they might not have walked away!!!

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Not trying to sound like a monday morning quarterback here, but I'm still curious about that throttle pumping.

 

My actual flying experience is limited and pretty dated, but I remember that the carbs on the aircraft I flew did not have accelerator pumps so pumping the throttle would not add any fuel to the airstream unlike in my old cars.

 

Maybe aircraft carbs are different now? Was he trying to dislodge possible ice on the butterfly? 

 

Just curious, and I agree that his landing speed looked a little hot.

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Curious to know if the A2A Cessna can simluate this type of failure. I'm not buying that throttle pumping is the only solution. There is never just ONE solution.

 

But at the time it's all he could concentrate on I guess.


Also, I decided to Google an engine failure for the Cessna. The first one is: http://www.beverlyflightcenter.com/pdfs/emergency/172EMERG.pdf

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I assume the instructor decided very quickly that an emergency landing was required, and concentrated on that rather than trying to do something that may or may not have worked. I am no pilot, but that sounds like a very sensible decision to me.

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