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With all the buzz about Pro-ATC-X, now which one is best?

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I am still looking for the best ATC addon and just when I thought I decided, this happens. 

  Pro-ATC-X v1.4

 

Where does this leave the rest? Is this the future? 

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Ric,

 

Just be aware that ProATC-X does not use approved FAA/ICAO language in its instructions. That may be addressed at some point in the future but will require the people who recorded voice sets to re-record. Not a quick task. Also, if you fly a British Airways aircraft you will be addressed as "British Airways" and not "Speedbird".

 

Radar Contact v4.3 still has a lot of fans and does use approved language. Other packages may but I can't comment on those.

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Interesting I have never used an ATC package but I can see if you are getting into the details of flying by the book this might be a requisite purchase.

 

I should make a point of giving this a try to see what it would mean to my flying.  I like the free trial idea, try before you buy.

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I have Radar Contact, PFE, and also ProAtcX. I personally think that for speed of setup, ease of use and correct terminology, Radar Contact is the best. However if PFE is set up properly it is just as good but the setup is a cumbersome process and a lot of reading the manual is involved.

However what I do like about ProAtcX is that it is relatively simple to set up a flight and that it assigns proper SID/STARS which neither Radar Contact or Pro Flight Emulator do. But, it uses incorrect ATC terminology and there is little variation within the voice packs. I think PATC has the base to become a great ATC program as long as the developers keep updating and listening to what people want but for the money it is at the moment it is expensive for what it is.

 

Gavin

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Iam on the fence with voxatc x and proatc x. At this moment, could anyone really recommend proatc x ?

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Also, if you fly a British Airways aircraft you will be addressed as "British Airways" and not "Speedbird".

 

Some of the voice sets are already corrected as can be heard on this ProATC user's video:

 

Just to add my 2 cents. There are at least 5 ATC programs that I could imagine users quoting as "the best".

 

The reason is that, that there isn't a complete ATC program yet. If someone were to combine all the 5 major ATC programs into one program, then I would be very happy :)

 

Until that happens, the "best" ATC program is highly dependent on what features are a must for you and what features you are willing to live without.

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Some of the voice sets are already corrected as can be heard on this ProATC user's video:

 

Perhaps I'm mistaken but the only reference to Speedbird appeared to be spoken by the pilot or his FSCrew voice. I did scan through it quickly though.

 

But if the voice sets are being corrected that is a good thing.

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Speedbird appeared to be spoken by the pilot or his FSCrew voice.

 

The "pilot's voice" saying Speedbird is the ProATC's Alpha117 voice set. 

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The "pilot's voice" saying Speedbird is the ProATC's Alpha117 voice set. 

 

Roger that. :smile:

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I haven't bought it yet, but my current favorite is Pilot2ATC.  It has voice recognition and does some focus on VFR, works well with GA too.  The developer is working steadily on it.  Needs some work on procedures but it's getting there.  Once he gets those ironed out I'll probably get it. 

 

I agree that each of these programs have strengths and, if they combined them, it would make a decent ATC program.

 

Gregg

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I am still looking for the best ATC addon and just when I thought I decided, this happens. 

  Pro-ATC-X v1.4

 

Where does this leave the rest? Is this the future? 

I have Radar Contact, PFE, Vox-ATC, and Pro-ATC-X (whatever the version was prior to the recently released 1.4).

 

After trying each, I invariably return to RC4 which I really like - it's easy to set up and use, and I'm completely accustomed to the voice sets (I still get a little thrill then the controller tells me to "have a nice day").

 

Yes, RC4 is lacking in ground control operations, but this does not bother me since so little of my time is spent on the ground. As for SIDs/STARs, I use PFPX for creating flight plans, and RC4 has an option to determine if vectors or SIDs are to be used.

 

I must mention that each time I think I've found a limitation or negative in RC4, upon digging deeper (including reading the manual <g>), it turns out RC4 in fact handles that situation (for example, instrument approaches - for a long time I thought being vectored was the only option, but it turns out RC4 allows me to fly whatever approach I planned for by requesting it).

 

I have a LOT of FSX add-ons, and RC4 is by far one of my favorite overall, and THE favorite for ATC!

 

BTW - I have watched videos for the Pro-ATC 1.4 release, and personally, I will be sticking with RC4. But I am happy that development has continued for that product - the more options flight simmers have, the better.

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7 day free trial on VOXAtc.

Yes for 7 day Vox and 15 day trial for Pilot2Atc. I have both. Great voice recognition programs, great support !

 

Regards,

 

Richard Portier

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Hi Stevan,

 

Have you ever aborted a take-off or declared an emergency once airborne? Both those are modelled in RC4. Does the opposition have them?

 

Glad you found the option to do your own approach once you reach 40DME from arrival. That's the one I use most of the time especially now I have EFB with the charts available.

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Have you ever aborted a take-off or declared an emergency once airborne? Both those are modelled in RC4. Does the opposition have them?

 

Yes, ProATC supports declaring an emergency. The last time I had to use this function was during one of my AirHauler flight.

 

ProATC had me fly a holding pattern near LSZH, when AirHauler decided to fail my altimeter (in total IMC). I was able to declare an emergency and landed somewhat safely (I'm glad I already had the ILS tuned so I could use it for judge my altitude).

 

You can declare an emergency anytime during flight. Based on where you are, you are either sent to the takeoff alternate, or the closest suitable airport (if your destination/alternate airports are too far away).

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Yes, ProATC supports declaring an emergency.

 

Very good. You didn't confirm if rejected take-off is catered for.

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You didn't confirm if rejected take-off is catered for.

 

That is because I do not know :) I have never had to reject a takeoff on any of my flights (not even with Radar Contact), so I haven't checked if it's supported.

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I was thinking of asking exactly the same question as the topic starter. I too have been looking for a decent ATC program as I regularly fly real world routes for my virtual airline using SIDS & STARS.

 

I would really like to run this software on my networked PC that currently has ASN, EFB & PFPX on it.

 

Is this possible with any of the programs here ? I was thinking of giving Radar Contact a look at

 

Regards

 

Richard

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Does Pilot2ATC offer button control mode?

 

No its only  voice  only  at the moment

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Is this possible with any of the programs here ? I was thinking of giving Radar Contact a look at

I run RC4 via a WideFS PC. Excellent performance.

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So I jumped in and brought Pro-ATCX,

 

It is a little pricey (just over $70 CDN) but so far I really like it. Definitely a learning curve but now down a couple of flights with the A321 & 737 NGX and all went well. The ATC chatter is great, just need to find some compete sets for Canada & USA

 

I am running it networked too without any issues

 

Richard

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VoxATC user here and loving it. Also keep in mind that even though voice recognition is it's primary mode of operation and it's highlight feature, you can switch over COMMS control to the FO and do an entire flight without ever having to use your mic. Great for those nights where the rest of the family need silence and sleep. LOL

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