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FTX Vector + FS Global 2010 and still elevation issues

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Hello,

 

I have recently installed FS Global 2010 FTX version. I had FTX Vector working really fine before installing fs global but i wanted a more precise mesh for my fsx.

After installing FS Global 2010 i made an AEC auto scan (and then applied it) and yet i saw that there were a lot of issues regarding the airports elevations as you can see in the picture below (Geneva airport).

In order to make things clearly this is my scenery library in FSX:

FTX AA Orbxlibs

Orbx Open LC europe

Cities

Continents

Orbx Vector OBJ

Orbx Cevtor Apt

Orbx Vector CVX

Orbx Vector Exx

Base

default mesh

default scenery

Orbx Vector AEC

FS Global 2010 Local meshes

FS Global 2010 Continents.

 

I dont have any issue when disabling fs global 2010 but i thought that this mesh should correctly work with FTX Vector.
If anybody knows how i can fix this issue, I would be grateful. Thanks !

 

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Thank you both for your quick answers

 

@pete I posted in ftx but the team never answers to forum topics. I've posted there one week ago and i have yet to have an answer

@stook I shouldnt be obliged to get AFM in order not to have elevation issues. I know this product but i dont wanna spend money for it as Fs global 2010 and ftx vector should work together properly

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Open FTX Sentral ---> Settings ---> FTX Global Vector Configuration tool ---> Airport Elevation Correction. Press Run Auto Configuration and see if that helps :)

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The AEC tool doesn't fix every airport elevation in the world, not even close.

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I only know that it did helps me with some of my scenery elevation problem like this one.

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Thanks larvik but i already used AEC auto configuration tool and this doesnt help for every default airport. In fact the airport shown on my screenshot is default LSGG and it doesnt even appear in the AEC lists.

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Start topic on Orbx forum. They help quite quickly. I use this combo also and have not seen any issues but I will check this particular airport and let you know.

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@Mephic I have started one but nobody gave me an answer so far. Let me know if you check the airport. Thanks !

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I have FS Global 2010 and though I do have elevation issues it usually doesn't bother me enough to seek out a "fix" per se outside of using the ORBX utility to fix elevation.

 

But I gotta say...they want people to shell out 29.99 for a "different product" that fixes another of their products? I didn't know this existed before this thread but that seems unethical to me. The wording is confusing though...at the bottom they say it's "Free for registered users of FS Global 2010". Yet...it's a 10 Euro DVD that has to be snailmailed? That's kind of far from "free". Why can't this be downloaded?

 

Surely I have some fact incorrect here. Does anyone have the real story on this?

 

EDIT: I was also misled by PILOTs when I bought FS Global 2010 in that in my opinion that make it appear as if the FS2004 version was also included. It isn't until you read further that you find out that it isn't included in the download version. Of course I bought mine before I read the fine print. Live and learn. But I'm going to have to be more careful if I ever purchase PILOTs stuff again.

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Get the AFM from

 

 http://www.fly2pilots.com/Cms/Ui/Pages/Products/MainPage.aspx?id=d3fca479-6c4c-465b-bd75-97445878ae48

 

The mesh fix is more gradual.  You wouldn't see the "plateau" effect.  By the way, it says it's not compatible with FS Global 2010 FTX.  All that means is you need to manually copy the needed mesh to your p3d/fsx directory.

 

Good luck.

 

jimmy

Do not buy this if you have FTX Global, the page you linked says this in bold. It does the same thing as FTX Global AEC. You are wasting your money by buying this and the FTX products

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I thought I had read somewhere that you shouldn't use AEC with the FS Global 2010 FTX version.

 

EDIT: Oh wait, maybe I'm confusing AEC with AFM.

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I checked wrong end of runway - I also have this issue. But the airport is not in AEC. It is ORBX to fix it than I guess. 

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I was appalled at how bad the elevation issues were with FS Global 2010. I tried the elevation fix offered with Vector, and it didn't do a darn thing in my opinion to make anything look better and in some places it looked even worse. I was going to get AFM for "free" but never got around to it. Right now, I'm not using Vector anyway, and for the FS Global mesh, I just have the N. America box in Scenery unchecked. Guess I ought to get around to getting AFM one of these days.

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Do not buy this if you have FTX Global, the page you linked says this in bold. It does the same thing as FTX Global AEC. You are wasting your money by buying this and the FTX products

Actually I've FTX Global Vector and its AEC tool does a poor job of flattening some of the airports.  The AEC tool creates "bathtubs" and "plateaus" on some airports it fixed.  Anyway the AFM meshes do not have this "bathtub" and plateaus" on the airports I tried.  Anyway AFM tool is working for me.   The only issue is I need manually copy the meshes.

 

jimmy 

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So I understand i am not the only one getting elevation issues on default airport with the combination of FTXvector and FS global 2010 "ftx version".

I just dont get why Orbx said that fs global 2010 and vector should work well together if thats not the case...

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That is probably because  of how many airports FSX has. Look at this software as at any other game - it has bugs and this airport is one of them. Did you get reply from ORBX team? Are they willing to fix it? 

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I think Orbx have gently stepped away from Global 2010 support. Pilots themselves were supposed to have handled it but were limited to 'give us co-ordinates'. Personally, I ditched Global 2010 and make do with Orbx specific meshes, i.e. the ones that come with full fats. Since then I've not seen another elevation issue. I do have Vector and run the AEC whenever I fart about with scenery.

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All higher LOD meshes will give this issue, the problem is that many of the default runways are at the wrong elevation and do not follow the terrain.

Better mesh highlights this even further

FTX Global attempts to smooth these anomalies out with its elevation correction meshes but these are not always enough.

 

At least Pilots software includes a tutorial on creating flattens using Flight1's AFX program, but if you have hills all around an airport you need to flatten a wide area which will eat into those hills and look odd.

 

Used along with Orbx Vector FTX Global2010 has the least amount of issues, FSGenesis is much worse especially the higher LOD NextMap product.

 

You could commission TopoSim run by Justin the former owner of FSGenesis to fix some of them.

http://www.toposim.net/what-we-do/

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Thanks all for your answers. I do now understand thats there is no way to entirely get rid of elevation issues when you have a high quality mesh like fs global 2010 even if it is working along with ftx vector.

The only question now is : is it better to have elevation issues with a good mesh+ftx vector OR default mesh+ftx vector but not any elevation issues

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To me FS global improved a lot in mountainous regions in Europe and I prefer to avoid airfields with issues than going with default mesh but whatever is better for you choose it :)

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