October 5, 201510 yr I can understand that for some, this might be a deal breaker. I personally prefer ATC that works from gate to gate using as much of the AIRAC data as possible (departures+transitions, arrivals+transitions, approaches+transitions, missed approaches) over complete voice sets. Well, you might be happy with the SID and STARs, for me it is indeed an absolute game breaker if a voice software for FSX with a price of 70$ calls a British Airways plane with "British Airways" rather than "Speedbird", just to illustrate a second error (or is at least this one fixed now?). Same goes for the fact that "A" is pronounced as "A" when spelling things and not as "Alpha" as it should be (this might be fixed now?). Greetings, Chris AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D, 2x32GB DDR5 6000MT/s RAM, MSI RTX 4090 Ventus 3X, Windows 11 Home, MSFS2024
October 5, 201510 yr you might be happy with the SID and STARs, for me it is indeed an absolute game breaker if a voice software for FSX with a price of 70$ calls a British Airways plane with "British Airways" rather than "Speedbird" Absolutely. I prefer an ATC program that get's me from gate to gate doesn't try and fly me into a mountain. I also love the MadDog and the MD11 even though they do not have modern VCs or liveries for my favourite airline. Why? Because of the system depth and modeling. In the end, we all prefer different things and this is why it's good that there are plenty of options available for us. Jarkko Puustinen (FSX live streamer, YouTuber) http://www.twitch.tv/virtualfreightdog http://www.youtube.com/user/VirtualFreightDog
October 5, 201510 yr Well, you might be happy with the SID and STARs, for me it is indeed an absolute game breaker if a voice software for FSX with a price of 70$ calls a British Airways plane with "British Airways" rather than "Speedbird", just to illustrate a second error (or is at least this one fixed now?). Same goes for the fact that "A" is pronounced as "A" when spelling things and not as "Alpha" as it should be (this might be fixed now?). This is the problem of opening voice pack creation to the general users. On paper it sounds great as you get a greater variety of voices used. In practice as you can see you lose all quality control ,measures, resulting in a hodgepodge of phraseology! Especially with Callsigns. One voice will say it correctly Speedbird, others British Airways, some may not have it at all resulting in B A W being spelled out. Thanks Tom My Youtube Videos! http://www.youtube.com/user/tf51d
October 5, 201510 yr This for me is the best ATC out there. I love the fixes and additions. Well worth the money. Thanks, Darcy Coutts
October 6, 201510 yr Sorry For maybe a silly question, I'm thinking of jumping over to p3d v3 next week, does ProATC work in p3d v3??
October 6, 201510 yr I purchased this product in the past few months and so far have only used it once. I need to get motivated to go through everything to set it up properly, but this update may be the motivation I need to really dig in and get it up and running for some of my flights. Active development of a product is never a bad thing!
October 6, 201510 yr This for me is the best ATC out there. Thanks, Darcy Coutts Which other ATC programs have you used extensively ?
October 6, 201510 yr does ProATC work in p3d v3?? I'm still saving up for v3 so I can't say from experience, but users have reported using ProATC with v3 without problems. Jarkko Puustinen (FSX live streamer, YouTuber) http://www.twitch.tv/virtualfreightdog http://www.youtube.com/user/VirtualFreightDog
October 6, 201510 yr Which other ATC programs have you used extensively ? Even though this wasn't asked from me and I'm part of the ProATC beta team, here are my two cents: I have years of usage out of ProATC, VoxATC and RC4, but... When ever I don't feel confident flying online, I will end up using all three for training. Here is why: - After using ProATC, I'm confident, that I can fly the holds, procedure turns, transitions and maybe even missed approaches as they are meant to be flown (note to self: I should fly missed approaches more often). - When I don't feel confident enough to speak to ATC, I will do a refresher flight with VoxATC (or with RC4 + It's your plane) - When I feel like becoming "Children of Magenta", I will fly with RC4 so I know that I can manage without LNAV/VNAV holding my hand. So what I'm saying is, that at least for me, there isn't an ATC program to rule them all. All have features that I wished the other programs had. It's about using the one that suites your needs or the type of flying you like to do. Edited October 6, 201510 yr by Jarkko Jarkko Puustinen (FSX live streamer, YouTuber) http://www.twitch.tv/virtualfreightdog http://www.youtube.com/user/VirtualFreightDog
October 6, 201510 yr Absolutely. I prefer an ATC program that get's me from gate to gate doesn't try and fly me into a mountain. I also love the MadDog and the MD11 even though they do not have modern VCs or liveries for my favourite airline. Why? Because of the system depth and modeling. In the end, we all prefer different things and this is why it's good that there are plenty of options available for us. Understood, but where can we see a list of recognised callsigns? Menno i7-11700, 16GB, 1 TB SSD, 2 TB HDD, RTX 3070, Windows 11, MSFS 2020 DeLuxe, P3D 4.5
October 6, 201510 yr where can we see a list of recognised callsigns? I don't think there is such a list at the moment. Jarkko Puustinen (FSX live streamer, YouTuber) http://www.twitch.tv/virtualfreightdog http://www.youtube.com/user/VirtualFreightDog
October 6, 201510 yr I don't think there is such a list at the moment. Jarkko, can you confirm KLM Cityhopper's 'City' is pronounced correctly? I am on the fence too, but knowing this is correct, would really motivate me.... :smile: Menno i7-11700, 16GB, 1 TB SSD, 2 TB HDD, RTX 3070, Windows 11, MSFS 2020 DeLuxe, P3D 4.5
October 6, 201510 yr Jarkko, can you confirm KLM Cityhopper's 'City' is pronounced correctly? I am on the fence too, but knowing this is correct, would really motivate me.... :smile: Unfortunately there isn't a way for me to check this in a reasonable timeframe. I would have to go though all the sound sets to check and verify. (I dont' have deep enough knowledge of ProATC to do this quickly) At the moment, it's safer for me to say, that Cityhopper isn't pronounced correctly. That way I won't cause you a disappointment as I can't verify. Jarkko Puustinen (FSX live streamer, YouTuber) http://www.twitch.tv/virtualfreightdog http://www.youtube.com/user/VirtualFreightDog
October 6, 201510 yr Which other ATC programs have you used extensively ? Radar Contact, fsx built in engine and Vatsim Thanks Darcy Coutts
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