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Any new GA aircraft before the end of the Year for P3D?

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Getting a bit boring with all the talk of Ifly 747,Youfly 747, Wefly 747 and the Housefly 747 LOL. I know the RealAir stuff,and these guys are among the best. They just have no earthly clue what the word "soon" means and the importance it takes on one you are past a certain age!! :LMAO: I have give up on Carenado. They just are never going to improve with their reported attitude so the pickins are getting kind of thin.

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During the autumn, I had my hopes up for a Christmas treat from Eaglesoft or "God forbid" a P3D release from Flight 1 (Citation Mustang)....pretty much looking forward to 2016 offerings now... :nea:

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I find the Carenado stuff quite good. I've had no issue with their attitude - I had a problem, posted an email and receive3d a response quickly.

 

Some times I have seen a problem here and there on a new release but they have been generally fixing those quickly.

 

Vic

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We are quite close to the Realair Legacy V2  for FSX and P3d V3 being released. But the final 2% is proving quite a challenge. We hate to hold things back but it is better to delay rather than release something that is not as perfect as we can get it. P3d does throw up considerable challenges regarding our config app which we think is a vital component of the product. It is now more sophisticated than ever, offering on-the-fly changes in sounds, visual affects, animations, oxygen and hypoxia, failures, suspension, air flow dynamics, turbo charged engine options and more.

 

Doing a simple port over is not going to work. We have to also anticipate the next P3d update. Thanks for your patience. We're working flat out.

 

Best Wishes,

 

Rob - RealAir

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Thanks for the update Rob, I'm sure it's worth the wait!  You guys do such great work! Enjoy the holidays and looking forward to the Legacy V2.

 

Cheers

Martin

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We are quite close to the Realair Legacy V2  for FSX and P3d V3 being released. But the final 2% is proving quite a challenge. We hate to hold things back but it is better to delay rather than release something that is not as perfect as we can get it. P3d does throw up considerable challenges regarding our config app which we think is a vital component of the product. It is now more sophisticated than ever, offering on-the-fly changes in sounds, visual affects, animations, oxygen and hypoxia, failures, suspension, air flow dynamics, turbo charged engine options and more.

 

Doing a simple port over is not going to work. We have to also anticipate the next P3d update. Thanks for your patience. We're working flat out.

 

Best Wishes,

 

Rob - RealAir

 

Wow - that is super awesome.  Thank You for the update.  Hopefully you guys will get it working for P3Dv3.  And any plans for porting DukeB60v2 for p3dv3 (I own the fsx version), I have been waiting for the upgrade release update

 

Thanks

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Alabeo's releasing their Piper Aztec soon and I think Carenado must be close to RTM for the Islander.

 

Hirdy

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Wow - that is super awesome.  Thank You for the update.  Hopefully you guys will get it working for P3Dv3.  And any plans for porting DukeB60v2 for p3dv3 (I own the fsx version), I have been waiting for the upgrade release update

 

Thanks

 

Yes, the piston Duke B60 V2.5 (that is, an upgrade from V2) for P3d V3 etc and FSX will be forthcoming soon after the Legacy release.

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We are quite close to the Realair Legacy V2  for FSX and P3d V3 being released. But the final 2% is proving quite a challenge. We hate to hold things back but it is better to delay rather than release something that is not as perfect as we can get it. P3d does throw up considerable challenges regarding our config app which we think is a vital component of the product. It is now more sophisticated than ever, offering on-the-fly changes in sounds, visual affects, animations, oxygen and hypoxia, failures, suspension, air flow dynamics, turbo charged engine options and more.

 

Doing a simple port over is not going to work. We have to also anticipate the next P3d update. Thanks for your patience. We're working flat out.

 

Best Wishes,

 

Rob - RealAir

Thanks for the update Rob. I just had to have a little fun with my post. We all know when it gets here it will be done right. That is why all your stuff is just must buy and no questions asked. My best wishes for happy holidays for all of you at RealAir.

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Yes, the piston Duke B60 V2.5 (that is, an upgrade from V2) for P3d V3 etc and FSX will be forthcoming soon after the Legacy release.

I am so very anxious for the Legacy and Duke. But as above, take the time you need to get them right.

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I am so very anxious for the Legacy and Duke. But as above, take the time you need to get them right.

 

I hate it when I take a picture and I left the focus mode on manual  :Tounge:

 

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It is now more sophisticated than ever, offering on-the-fly changes in sounds, visual affects, animations, oxygen and hypoxia, failures, suspension, air flow dynamics, turbo charged engine options and more.

 

I fully respect that you guys have extremely high standards. However, sometimes I'm thinking standards of some developers are even higher than those expected from consumers. To be honest, I never ever would have needed the app to do on-fly-changes. Who really needs that? For me, it is absolutely sufficient to be able to configure the aircraft before loading P3D. And I would assume that 99% of the simmers feel the same. Delaying release because of these rarely used features is in my eye not very clever. Especially around christmas where everybody is keen on spending some money. Don't get me wrong. This is not meant to sound harsh. I absolutely love the Turbine Duke v2. It's just that I sometimes I have the feeling that developers get a bit lost in detail...

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I hate it when I take a picture and I left the focus mode on manual  :Tounge:

 

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You absolute arse  :Tounge:

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I fully respect that you guys have extremely high standards. However, sometimes I'm thinking standards of some developers are even higher than those expected from consumers. To be honest, I never ever would have needed the app to do on-fly-changes. Who really needs that? For me, it is absolutely sufficient to be able to configure the aircraft before loading P3D. And I would assume that 99% of the simmers feel the same. Delaying release because of these rarely used features is in my eye not very clever. Especially around christmas where everybody is keen on spending some money. Don't get me wrong. This is not meant to sound harsh. I absolutely love the Turbine Duke v2. It's just that I sometimes I have the feeling that developers get a bit lost in detail...

Carlo - *YOU* wouldn't like it and you presume to *ASSUME* that 99% of simmers wouldn't like it also?

 

I'll give you the first one because it's your opinion but please don't assume you speak for 99% of the simmers. There are a lot of reasons for "on the fly" changes that go far beyond over zealous developer detail.

 

You need to cut them some slack - for every one oyu find that doesn't want it, I'd bet I can find one that does.

 

Bottom line - when the dev has a product that THEY feel is ready - it will be released. And I bet that interspersed with the "atta boys" will be a lot of "why didn't you include xxxx?".

 

:smile:

 

Vic

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Carlo - *YOU* wouldn't like it and you presume to *ASSUME* that 99% of simmers wouldn't like it also?

 

I'll give you the first one because it's your opinion but please don't assume you speak for 99% of the simmers. There are a lot of reasons for "on the fly" changes that go far beyond over zealous developer detail.

 

You need to cut them some slack - for every one oyu find that doesn't want it, I'd bet I can find one that does.

 

Bottom line - when the dev has a product that THEY feel is ready - it will be released. And I bet that interspersed with the "atta boys" will be a lot of "why didn't you include xxxx?".

 

:smile:

 

Vic

 

Fair enough, Vic. I'm absolutely willing to accept that I'm wrong if I'm wrong. Question then only is: Why does Carenado (who always release have finished products) sell a ton of copies? I would be so brave to raise the hypothesis that they sell much more copies than Realair.

 

It might not be 99% but I'm still willing to bet that it is the majority who doesn't need these features. However, I'm perfectly fine to accept that some developers prefer to develop for the perfectionist minority. I'm really not complaining. I'm just expressing my (very personal) opinion. And this is with zero intend to tell anybody what they should do... ;-)

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I fully respect that you guys have extremely high standards. However, sometimes I'm thinking standards of some developers are even higher than those expected from consumers. To be honest, I never ever would have needed the app to do on-fly-changes. Who really needs that? For me, it is absolutely sufficient to be able to configure the aircraft before loading P3D. And I would assume that 99% of the simmers feel the same. Delaying release because of these rarely used features is in my eye not very clever. Especially around christmas where everybody is keen on spending some money. Don't get me wrong. This is not meant to sound harsh. I absolutely love the Turbine Duke v2. It's just that I sometimes I have the feeling that developers get a bit lost in detail...

 

If only you knew just how opposite the feedback we receive is! Flight simming enthusiasts, and pilots, are probably among the most collectively OCD bunch it is possible to meet, and I don't mean that in a pejorative way. They actually DO want on-the-fly features and hundreds of them email us about it. Not only that but every new feature which they like is expected to work with no bugs and no hassles. Personally I am with you. I like simple aircraft that are well done. Conversely, most of the bugs to be ironed out are based not so much on new features but on quite simple things that require a lot of care as they can throw out unexpected oddities that are hard to trace.

 

I can't and won't comment on other designers. Some of our products are over ten years old and still attract customers. We build to last which is why we don't have a large inventory and don't rush.

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If only you knew just how opposite the feedback we receive is! Flight simming enthusiasts, and pilots, are probably among the most collectively OCD bunch it is possible to meet, and I don't mean that in a pejorative way. They actually DO want on-the-fly features and hundreds of them email us about it. Not only that but every new feature which they like is expected to work with no bugs and no hassles. Personally I am with you. I like simple aircraft that are well done. Conversely, most of the bugs to be ironed out are based not so much on new features but on quite simple things that require a lot of care as they can throw out unexpected oddities that are hard to trace.

 

If that's the feedback you receive, then you certainly do the right thing. Anyways. As I said above: I'm not complaining. I absolutely love the Realair Turbine Duke v2. It's by far my most preferred GA aircraft. Just keep up the great work!

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I can't and won't comment on other designers. Some of our products are over ten years old and still attract customers. We build to last which is why we don't have a large inventory and don't rush.

 

Amen. The three names you consistently hear when the best quality payware aircraft are being discussed are RealAir, A2A and PMDG.

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I fully respect that you guys have extremely high standards. However, sometimes I'm thinking standards of some developers are even higher than those expected from consumers. To be honest, I never ever would have needed the app to do on-fly-changes. Who really needs that? For me, it is absolutely sufficient to be able to configure the aircraft before loading P3D. And I would assume that 99% of the simmers feel the same. Delaying release because of these rarely used features is in my eye not very clever. Especially around christmas where everybody is keen on spending some money. Don't get me wrong. This is not meant to sound harsh. I absolutely love the Turbine Duke v2. It's just that I sometimes I have the feeling that developers get a bit lost in detail...

 

I much prefer the approach Real Air is taking rather than the disturbing trend of releasing a "beta product" that I pay to test yet am offered no assurances that the bugs will ever be fixed. 

Was it Captain Sim who first started this horrid trend with the 777?

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I hate it when I take a picture and I left the focus mode on manual  :Tounge:

 

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OK....That's it. If you are a Beta Tester and that is the new one then I vote for at least a 30 day ban!!! :Bring It On:

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OK....That's it. If you are a Beta Tester and that is the new one then I vote for at least a 30 day ban!!! :Bring It On:

 

I couldn't possibly comment on either  :ph34r:

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I can't believe I'm going to say "lovely pic, Ryan!" to such a blurry image! :lol:  .... but seeing that we can make out what's underneath the blur, LOVELY PIC, RYAN !!  :smile:

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