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Ask Dovetail Games about DTG Flight School & Flight Simulator

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I noticed DTG Flight School is available for pre-order on Steam. Can I pre-order in the Windows Store instead? I don't like to rely on Steam to play any games.

I really don't like the idea of having to install 3rd party software to play games. Steam/Origin, etc.

 

Whatever happened to the good old days where you buy the game (download or box) and you just installed it without the extra crap and got your updates from the game maker.

 

-Cheers-

Michael Lagow
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    So we listened, we fed the development team a bunch of coffee and set them to work overnight. The end result? DTG Flight School now supports TrackIR. We need to do some QA testing on it, but it is in

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Where is the in game footage? Seems very odd the question is being circumvented. Why would we only want to see "not in game footage" as the trailer? The only in game I saw were a few more static images it seems.

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So Martin, why did Dovetail Games choose to use Non in game footage for the pre release video of flight school?....considering it may well be a miss representation of the actual final product?

Waiting on the mods.... :)

 

Martin: when can we expect to see a new batch of screenshots and/or videos of Flight School?

Ken

Hi Martin.

 

I have another question regarding the rendering engine.

Will the rendering engine for Flight School and Flight Simulator be identical?

 

I'm thinking from Dovetails point of view that sharing the base engine will make sense for updates / upgrades.

Or.

Once Flight School is released are you intending to run to completely separate development paths?

 

Most of my questions so far have related to the rendering engine (cloud shadows, cockpit shadows etc), they would all be mute if both projects will ultimately share the same updated core.

 

Thank you.

Brent.

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Hi Martin,

 

I noticed in the footage from a gaming conference that the FSX Mission pointers are used in Flight School. How much stuff from FSX has been 'recycled' for use in Flight School, and will it carry over to DTGFS? 

hi martin,

 

will the weather engine get a overhaul?

 

fsx needed 3rd party addons for more realism. pop up clouds and no overcast need to be addressed.

 

jim.

Hi Martin

 

As this is on Steam, how would it work if there was more than 1 user on the PC?

Should they buy a copy each on a separate Steam account?

Will their progress be tracked separately?

 

Thanks.

Tony Holmes

xplane 12, MSFS, Windows 10, Ryzen 5600x, 32gb, RX 6800XT.

 

Martin, how long did it take to make the Flight School pre release video, that is not actual in game footage?

Could these resources have been better used creating actual in game content?

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Will the DA42 be a partnership with Carenado/Alabeo or is it a completely different product?
If not, will it have the glass cockpit?

 

It is made in partnership with Diamond Aircraft Industries Inc. It does include a glass cockpit. 

 

- Martin 

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Okay, Heimi I thought I had been asking questions, but here goes.

 

Question to Martin:

Can you tell us anything about the flight school airfields used in Flight School?

The video with you in it seems to suggest that the UK flight school airfield is EGLM.

 

Can you confirm this?

Any chance of knowing which airfield will be the US one for the flight school there?

 

Either way, are you able to expand on anything about the airfields used for the flight school bases?

Have they been enhanced over other airfields?

Will they have specific VFR VRPs added or does the scenery have enough in it anyway?

 

Thanks very much.

 

I can't just yet, but we will be covering this in fine detail before release. 

 

- Martin 

 

 

Will Flight School have cockpit shadows?

 

Will Flight School expand the tutorials after release?

 

There are indeed shadows in the cockpit. There are currently no plans to expand the tutorials in Flight School at a later date. 

 

- Martin 

Sorry if I've missed this topic earlier, but it's not on the Steam pre-order page. What controls will be supported in Flight School?

 

I see a card showing gamepad controls in that recent video, and naturally that's going to be the entry point for people who have never tried a flight sim. What about other controls like those below, since some people who have never flown a civilian sim will already have these for space games like Elite and combat sims:

 

* Dual joystick/throttle HOTAS sets like Thrustmaster Warthog

* Rudder pedals

* TrackIR or similar head tracking

 

If a controller works with FSX: SE it should work in DTG Flight School. TrackIR is not officially supported however. 

 

- Martin 

In a recent video Stephen Hood gave on youtube he said he uses the kind of stuff that you list on his desk at work for Flight School (yoke, pedals, trim wheel, quadrant etc.)

TrackIR is the one I'm wondering about.

 

I hope Martin's still around but he doesn't seem to have been on the thread recently.

 

(Martin, will TrackIR be supported?  And please confirm that yokes, pedals etc. will be, thanks)

 

I am still here. As we get closer to the release of Flight School I am getting super busy trying to stay on top of all our various sites and the communities we talk to. I am also out and about a lot showing the sim to people. This all means that I am not around as much as I was, but I will continue to pop in on a regular basis and answer questions. 

 

- Martin 

 

 

I noticed DTG Flight School is available for pre-order on Steam. Can I pre-order in the Windows Store instead?

 

The Windows Store does not allow for pre-orders, this means that we are unable to offer one. DTG Flight School is coming to the Windows Store if that is how you would like to purchase it. 

 

- Martin 

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Where is the in game footage? Seems very odd the question is being circumvented. Why would we only want to see "not in game footage" as the trailer? The only in game I saw were a few more static images it seems.

 

We will have some in game footage over the next few weeks. 

 

- Martin 


Are there any hardware recommendations for best results? For example my video card is a GeForce 660ti, should I be upgrading? What about memory (eg. RAM and VRAM)?

 

Nothing beyond the specs which are at the bottom of the pre-order page. 

 

http://store.steampowered.com/app/441920

 

- Martin 


So Martin, why did Dovetail Games choose to use Non in game footage for the pre release video of flight school?....considering it may well be a miss representation of the actual final product?

 

DTG Flight School is designed to appeal to anyone who wants to give flight simming a try. We wanted to produce a trailer aimed at those players. 

 

- Martin 


 

 


Martin: when can we expect to see a new batch of screenshots and/or videos of Flight School?

 

We will be releasing lots more over the coming weeks. The plan is to try and get something new out every day until launch if we can. 

 

- Martin 


Hi Martin.

 

I have another question regarding the rendering engine.

Will the rendering engine for Flight School and Flight Simulator be identical?

 

I'm thinking from Dovetails point of view that sharing the base engine will make sense for updates / upgrades.

Or.

Once Flight School is released are you intending to run to completely separate development paths?

 

Most of my questions so far have related to the rendering engine (cloud shadows, cockpit shadows etc), they would all be mute if both projects will ultimately share the same updated core.

 

Thank you.

Brent.

 

Dovetail Games Flight School and Dovetail Games Flight Simulator do share the same underlying technology. DTG Flight Simulator is still in development and is planned to be a much more encompassing experience compared to the focused pilot training of Flight School. 

 

- Martin 

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will the weather engine get a overhaul?

 

Not for DTG Flight School. We are looking at it for Flight Sim however. 

 

- Martin 


Hi Martin

 

As this is on Steam, how would it work if there was more than 1 user on the PC?

Should they buy a copy each on a separate Steam account?

Will their progress be tracked separately?

 

Thanks.

 

The key phrase here is "more than 1 user on the PC" 

 

Your pilot profile in the sim is linked to your Windows user profile. As long as each family member logs into Windows with their own user account then there should be no issues. 

 

Does that makes sense?

 

- Martin 


Just a kind reminder. I'm curious!

 

And you guys had to post this in the Q&A thread instead of the new discussion thread?  :unknw:

 

I haven't forgotten. Our development team are super busy at the moment. Let me poke them for you will a stick

 

- Martin 


Martin, how long did it take to make the Flight School pre release video, that is not actual in game footage?
Could these resources have been better used creating actual in game content?

 

The trailer took about six weeks to make. It was made by our creative services department who produce all the artwork and video content we use online. They have nothing to do with the game development team though. That is bit like saying the receptionist at a hospital would be of more use performing operations than answering the phone. Good in theory, but the skillsets are very different. 

 

- Martin 


 

 


Not officially supported but works anyway or not officially supported and will not work at all.
 
If the latter, then this is a huge dealbreaker for many in the community.

 

Not officially and we have never tried it. 

 

DTG Flight School has not been designed or developed with the existing flight sim community in mind. That will be DTG Flight Sim which is coming later in the year. 

 

- Martin 

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