Ultimate Traffic 2 Prepar3D v3 & v4

[Jack_Sawyer]

That did it Elaine!!!  I now have the default FSX AI traffic.

How do you DO it?

Such knowledge.  Do you even KNOW how much I appreciate your help?  A lot.  A very large amount!

Thank you.

[Poppet]

 

 

Currently, me and a friend are trying to figure out how to get UT2 working in p3d v3.2 and 3.3

 

 

you see, I currently got the "your flight simulator didn't shut down properly, and you need to reboot your pc" message that doesn't go away even after several reboots

 

 

C:\Program Files (x86)\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D v3\Flight One Software\Ultimate Traffic 2\UT2Services.exe

 

 

This Error you are seeing is the UT2 Red error of death message :smile:  This Error is not easy to pin down, But you have Installed Prepar3D into Program Files (x86)  You should never Install anything in here,  Installing into this location can lead to problems with administrative and Permission errors and other headaches.   The error in question comes from Security\Administrative and or Permissions rites to .exe and folder locations.

 

You have 2 choices

 

Choice 1

 

 If i was to put my "This is Correct" hat on,  i would say the following.......... 

 

(1)  Uninstall the Migration Tool completely 

 

(2)  Uninstall Prepar3D,  Start again,  and pick a different place to Install,  Not Program Files (x86)     http://www.avsim.com/topic/480898-how-do-i-uninstall-prepar3d-v3/ 

 

(3)  Follow this link for some basic hints and tips on Installing Stuff :smile: , http://www.avsim.com/topic/481623-my-link-thread/?p=3422126

       Note the parts about Running Prepar3D and third Party Software as administrator,  Also about disabling uac + Install locations.

 

 

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Choice 2 

 

If your going to push on and do none of the above i would say the following......

 

(1)  Disable The Migration Tool.

 

(2) Make sure you are Ruining UT2 as administrator  Go to  Prepar3D v3  ► Flight One Software ► Ultimate Traffic 2 

 

Right Click on UltimateTraffic2.exe and UT2Services,   Click on Properties,  Click Compatibility,  Tick the Box Run this Program as administrator and Click Apply.

 

 

 

 

 

(3)  Make sure you are Running Prepar3D as administrator 

 

     Right Click on your Prepar3D Icon,  Click Properties  Click Compatibility  Tick the Box "Run this program as administrator"  Click Apply

 

 

 

 

(4)  I see by your simobjects.cfg that its all messed up.   Right Click and Delete your simobjects.cfg,  Start Prepar3D and shut it down.  It will build a new fresh one.

 

You should now have 9 Default Entries,  You can manually add IVAO at a later stage.  

 

Copy and Paste this to the bottom of your simobjects,cfg and save it.  

[Entry.10]
Path=SimObjects\UT2 Aircraft
Required=True
Active=True

Go here   ► Computer ► Local Disk (C:) ►ProgramData ► Lockheed Martin ► PreparD v3 

 

Click on Simobjects.cfg.  You will need to add an at the bottom.   Click the Picture and Read the Tex.  Be sure that you have the Numbers correct.  Click File and Save it

 

 

 

 

(5)  Your exe.xml file looks ok!!   Do you hear the Music when you start Prepar3D ??  

[Christopher Low]

For the record, I have always installed FSX and P3D in the default Program Files (x86) folder.

[Poppet]

For the record, I have always installed FSX and P3D in the default Program Files (x86) folder.

 

In my opinion...... 

 

When you run into problems with your Sim with errors and so on and then try to diagnose the fault,  its down to a "process of elimination"   Its better to Never Install anything into Program Files (x86) this way you can eliminate this from your investigations.  

[Christopher Low]

I may well decide to reinstall P3D and all my addons from scratch in the near future, so I will bear that in mind!

[fluffyflops]

Delete all the SimObjectPaths statements apart from the last one. Please note the amendment I made to my post about your exe.xml file. This could be crucial!

I have this issue, it's to do with the migration tool keeps adding extra lines of simobjects I've tried to work out how to fix it with no luck as their forums is offline

[Sethos]

Oh, imagine if they actually made UT3 and gave us a native installer

 

A man can dream.

[Richard Sennett]

In my opinion...... 

 

When you run into problems with your Sim with errors and so on and then try to diagnose the fault,  its down to a "process of elimination"   Its better to Never Install anything into Program Files (x86) this way you can eliminate this from your investigations.  

 

Hi Elaine nice tutorial - easy stuff - one thing I would change is make a copy of your original P3D.cfg file launch P3D get out of sim and just copy back you old one so you dont have to do all your settings again 

 

Now this has drove me crazy in P3D traffic is there but never moves - is there a setting I am suppose to do in UT2 gui ? - I did rename my trafic.bgl to .old - that doesn't seem to matter either way - I have the three payware schedules but not installed yet I would assume I dont need them to see moving aircraft - thanks for the help 

[Richard Sennett]

Also on start up of UT2 gui you have to route to fsx.cfg file and fsx.exe file - only once but if you update the schedules as I have three payware versions you have to find cfg and exe files again fyi

[MikeAlphaZulu]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

This Error you are seeing is the UT2 Red error of death message :smile:  This Error is not easy to pin down, But you have Installed Prepar3D into Program Files (x86)  You should never Install anything in here,  Installing into this location can lead to problems with administrative and Permission errors and other headaches.   The error in question comes from Security\Administrative and or Permissions rites to .exe and folder locations.

 

You have 2 choices

 

Choice 1

 

 If i was to put my "This is Correct" hat on,  i would say the following.......... 

 

(1)  Uninstall the Migration Tool completely 

 

(2)  Uninstall Prepar3D,  Start again,  and pick a different place to Install,  Not Program Files (x86)     http://www.avsim.com/topic/480898-how-do-i-uninstall-prepar3d-v3/ 

 

(3)  Follow this link for some basic hints and tips on Installing Stuff :smile: , http://www.avsim.com/topic/481623-my-link-thread/?p=3422126

       Note the parts about Running Prepar3D and third Party Software as administrator,  Also about disabling uac + Install locations.

 

 

===========================================

 

Choice 2 

 

If your going to push on and do none of the above i would say the following......

 

(1)  Disable The Migration Tool.

 

(2) Make sure you are Ruining UT2 as administrator  Go to  Prepar3D v3  ► Flight One Software ► Ultimate Traffic 2 

 

Right Click on UltimateTraffic2.exe and UT2Services,   Click on Properties,  Click Compatibility,  Tick the Box Run this Program as administrator and Click Apply.

 

 

 

 

 

(3)  Make sure you are Running Prepar3D as administrator 

 

     Right Click on your Prepar3D Icon,  Click Properties  Click Compatibility  Tick the Box "Run this program as administrator"  Click Apply

 

 

 

 

(4)  I see by your simobjects.cfg that its all messed up.   Right Click and Delete your simobjects.cfg,  Start Prepar3D and shut it down.  It will build a new fresh one.

 

You should now have 9 Default Entries,  You can manually add IVAO at a later stage.  

 

Copy and Paste this to the bottom of your simobjects,cfg and save it.  

[Entry.10]
Path=SimObjects\UT2 Aircraft
Required=True
Active=True

Go here   ► Computer ► Local Disk (C:) ►ProgramData ► Lockheed Martin ► PreparD v3 

 

Click on Simobjects.cfg.  You will need to add an at the bottom.   Click the Picture and Read the Tex.  Be sure that you have the Numbers correct.  Click File and Save it

 

 

 

 

(5)  Your exe.xml file looks ok!!   Do you hear the Music when you start Prepar3D ??  

 

 

Hello Poppet,

 

Thank you for taking time to read our posts! Following up on the post by Andreas, (I am the friend he mentioned)

 

• I have P3D V3 installed to the default path.
• I do not have FSX.
• I have uninstalled UT2 from my PC and proceeded with my installation from scratch.
• I have installed everything as per your instructions. I made all the tweaks the same as your suggestion with ONE exception: SimObjectPaths.0=SimObjects\UT2 Aircraft <-- I have set this to 10 for me. It is sequential with the rest of my entries. I do not have any entry duplicated, nor does it skip any numbers.
• I am running everything in administrator mode.
• My UT2 configurator runs without any errors on the splash screen. I can now get into traffic repaints without an error (this used to be an issue when I installed using migration tool). It seems I can go through the entire configurator without any errors now. I have not made any changes except reduce traffic to 14% and remove the sound when P3D starts (I can confirm that I heard the sound after the fresh install)
•  I will still get the "Warning! Flight Simulator did not shut down properly..." error every time I load P3D, even after rebooting. (This happened with both installs)
• I still do not have any traffic.

 

Can you think of something else I can do besides a fresh reinstall of P3D?

Will getting this error message ensure that something is going wrong and UT2 will not work? 

 

 

Thank you again!  :smile:

[Christopher Low]

 

have installed everything as per your instructions. I made all the tweaks the same as your suggestion with ONE exception: SimObjectPaths.0=SimObjects\UT2 Aircraft <-- I have set this to 10 for me. It is sequential with the rest of my entries. I do not have any entry duplicated, nor does it skip any numbers.

 

You do not need all of those SimObjectPaths statements in the P3D.cfg file for P3D v3. You only need one....

 

SimObjectPaths.0=SimObjects\UT2 Aircraft

 

The others are covered by the new SimObjects.cfg file.

[MikeAlphaZulu]

You do not need all of those SimObjectPaths statements in the P3D.cfg file for P3D v3. You only need one....

 

SimObjectPaths.0=SimObjects\UT2 Aircraft

 

The others are covered by the new SimObjects.cfg file.

Ok so I altered the FSX.cfg, rebooted and same situation exactly.

[Poppet]

Hello Mike,  I will Post here properly tonight when i get home but some food for thought now......... 

 

 I will still get the "Warning! Flight Simulator did not shut down properly

 

This here is a problem,  Until you get past this you are at absolutely nothing. 

 

Like i said you are better to Install outside on (x86)   but for now we will push on 

 

This probably will not fix the error but you need to eliminate this first 

 

Are you logged in as a Guest or as administrator?  

 

So you have Prepar3D installed into Program Files (x86) ?  You need to go there and give this folder the proper Permissions. 

 

 Go to the Lockheed Martin folder at this location,  Right Click on it,  Click into Properties, Click into security,  Click into Advanced   You will see at the top  Who is the owner ?  It might say system It should say You administrator 

 

Click Change,  Click advanced,  Click Find now   Navigate through the list and double click your  "name\administrator"   Click Ok,  Tick the box  Replace owner and subcontainers and objects  Click apply

 

Do that and come back.......

 

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If you have success doing that.........

 

Remember,  Only 2 things make the UT2 planes appear, your exe.xml file and your simobjects.cfg,  everything else can be sorted out later.  Dont bother going near your control panel for now  

 

exe.xml file,  Can you confirm that you still hear the music when you start Prepar3D? 

 

Simobjects.cfg  Can you confirm that you have added the Entry to your simobjects.cfg in ProgramData ► Lockheed Martin ► PreparD v3  just like the image shows in post 167  (3 posts above this one) 

[MikeAlphaZulu]

Hello Mike,  I will Post here properly tonight when i get home but some food for thought now......... 

 

 

This here is a problem,  Until you get past this you are at absolutely nothing. 

 

Like i said you are better to Install outside on (x86)   but for now we will push on 

 

This probably will not fix the error but you need to eliminate this first 

 

Are you logged in as a Guest or as administrator?  

 

So you have Prepar3D installed into Program Files (x86) ?  You need to go there and give this folder the proper Permissions. 

 

 Go to the Lockheed Martin folder at this location,  Right Click on it,  Click into Properties, Click into security,  Click into Advanced   You will see at the top  Who is the owner ?  It might say system It should say You administrator

 

Click Change,  Click advanced,  Click Find now   Navigate through the list and double click your  "name\administrator"   Click Ok,  Tick the box  Replace owner and subcontainers and objects  Click apply

 

Do that and come back.......

 

==========================

If you have success doing that.........

 

Remember,  Only 2 things make the UT2 planes appear, your exe.xml file and your simobjects.cfg,  everything else can be sorted out later.  Dont bother going near your control panel for now  

 

exe.xml file,  Can you confirm that you still hear the music when you start Prepar3D? 

 

Simobjects.cfg  Can you confirm that you have added the Entry to your simobjects.cfg in ProgramData ► Lockheed Martin ► PreparD v3  just like the image shows in post 167  (3 posts above this one) 

 

Thanks for your reply.

 

OK, so.. 

 

• I am logged in as an administrator.
• I went ahead and gave myself ownership persmission for the entire "Lockheed Martin" folder in ProgramFiles(x86) ([name]/administrator)
• To check on the sound I had to re-activate it from the UT2 config. And yes, I can still hear the sound. I will just keep this on for the time being. 
• [Edit] Rebooted
• I still get the Warning error message.
• This is the entry from my simobjects :

   

  [Entry.11]

  Active=True

  Path=SimObjects\UT2 Aircraft

  Required=True

   

 

Thanks

[Poppet]

 

 

I still get the Warning error message.

 

Does the error message present itself when you start Prepar3D or shut it down