July 13, 20169 yr Win10 is working flawlessly for me, after my forced upgrade from Win7, which fortunately went without a hitch. Performance in P3D and FSX is exactly the same as far as I can tell, the same is true for all the games I have on my system. Despite an upgrade from a four year old install of Win7 I am running 100% stable, and the OS is very nice to work with. Driver and development support will concentrate on Win10 from now on, so I would rather be on this platform from that point of view alone.
July 13, 20169 yr Win10 is working flawlessly for me, after my forced upgrade from Win7, which fortunately went without a hitch. Performance in P3D and FSX is exactly the same as far as I can tell, the same is true for all the games I have on my system. Despite an upgrade from a four year old install of Win7 I am running 100% stable, and the OS is very nice to work with. Driver and development support will concentrate on Win10 from now on, so I would rather be on this platform from that point of view alone. If windows 10 users are a small percentage of total windows users as of now, why would driver and development support be confined to Windows 10?
July 13, 20169 yr Commercial Member Windows 10 isn't the minority user base you keep saying it is. This is after only 1 year and will take a surge towards the end of the month as people grab their last chance of a free upgrade. It only increases as every new pc comes with 10. These links show overall market share. https://www.netmarketshare.com/operating-system-market-share.aspx?qprid=10&qpcustomd=0 http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_os.asp Remember the bulk of those will be business systems who won't change from 7 for years so this link is to give more of a bias to home user/gaming computers. I know not everyone uses steam but a lot do and it is a useful data source. http://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey Windows 7 will be around for a while but there is no doubt that 10 is the future and is being embraced right across the pc user spectrum. New hardware and drivers are focusing on windows10 compatibility, they aren't confined to it but they are certainly concentrating on it. You are right that there is no reason to rush away from Windows 7 but you can't keep denying the fact the 10 has really taken off. To answer the original question, in my view there is little performance gain to be had in p3d but as a platform it is a huge leap forward in all other areas. Chris Owner, Fulcrum Simulator Controls. fulcrumsim.com facebook.com/fulcrumsimulatorcontrols instagram.com/fulcrumsimulatorcontrols twitter.com/Fulcrum_SC
July 13, 20169 yr Having spent the last week or so doing a clean install of Win10 I'm very happy with the result. No, upgrading from Win7 or Win8 in itself will not provide a speed boost, but a CLEAN install will. I did make a single change to my P3D install that resulted in a very noticiable improvement - nothing to do with Win10, more of making the right choice with a CLEAN install. I installed UTX 2 instead of Orbx Vector. As a gamer and also as a business user my belief is that as a gamer there are now real benefits in taking advantage of the free upgrade. If you don't want the free upgrade then you can do whatever you want. As a business user I'll stick with Win7 until needs dictate the change. Bottom line for me is Win10 at home with DirectX 12 and XBox support etc and Win 7 at work for backward compatibility with line of business applications. A figure you might be interested in is that Steam are reporting more Win10 users than Win7. The number of users using a product you can't buy is not relevant. Cheers, howevr
July 14, 20169 yr I guess if you want to cover both bases you could do the free upgrade to Win10 which would write the Win10 licence info to the motherboard. Then roll back to Win7 until sometime in the future you decide to reinstall Win10 which presumably you would not have to pay for since your motherboard already has that licence installed. ??? gb. YSSY. Win 10, [email protected], Corsair H115i Cooler, RTX 4070Ti, 32GB G.Skill Trident Z F4-3200, Samsung 960 EVO M.2 256GB, ASUS Maximus VIII Ranger, Corsair HX850i 850W, Thermaltake Core X31 Case, Samsung 4K 65" TV.
July 14, 20169 yr If windows 10 users are a small percentage of total windows users Steam also very recently announced that almost half of it's users (which is a staggering number in itself) were using Windows 10 and it's growing fast mostly at Windows 7 expense. Certainly not all, but still a large majority of the issues with Windows 10 aren't issues at all but stem more user error than anything. i7-13700KF, 32gb DDR4 3200, RTX 4080, Win 11, MSFS 2024
July 14, 20169 yr Author Sure, I would like that link to show you how to upgrade/update to Windows 10 without all that spyware, bloatware that MS includes. However I have been having problems updating from Win 7 to Win10... at around 20% through the update, my machine restarts and says reverting back to my old windows. I'm not sure why it keeps doing this. I think it's because I've moved the default My Documents folder to a different drive maybe? ASUS ROG Maximus Hero XII ▪︎ Intel i9-10900K ▪︎ NVIDIA RTX 3090 FE ▪︎ 64GB Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro ▪︎ Windows 10 Pro (21H1) ▪︎ Samsung 970 EVO Pro 1TB NVME SSD (OS Drive) ▪︎ Samsung 860 EVO 2TB SATA SSD ▪︎ Seagate 4TB SATA HDD ▪︎ Corsair RMx 850W PSU
July 14, 20169 yr However I have been having problems updating from Win 7 to Win10... at around 20% through the update, my machine restarts and says reverting back to my old windows. Check this out.. Sounds very familiar from a couple years ago... http://www.avsim.com/topic/472563-to-anyone-getting-the-0x80070004-0x3000d-on-install/ i7-13700KF, 32gb DDR4 3200, RTX 4080, Win 11, MSFS 2024
July 14, 20169 yr As a progressive IT person. Windows 10 is the only way. I rarely ever see under 30fps in any situation David Graham Google, Network+, Cisco CSE, Cisco Unity Support Specialist, A+, CCNA
July 14, 20169 yr If windows 10 users are a small percentage of total windows users as of now, why would driver and development support be confined to Windows 10? I won't at this point, but I've been gaming for long enough, and have hung on to old OS's in the past to know how driver support does goes down the drain. If you only sim, its not such an issue I guess. Display driver downloads for Win10 outnumber Win7 by over 50% currently.
July 17, 20169 yr I think it's probably worth noting in this discussion that WIndows 7 64-bit is still Lockheed-Martin's officially recommended OS for Prepar3D. Regards Bob Scott | President and CEO, AVSIM Inc ATP Gulfstream II-III-IV-V Sys1 (MSFS20+24/XPlane12+11): AMD 9800X3D, water 2x240mm, MSI MPG X670E Carbon, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, nVidia RTX4090FE Alienware AW3821DW 38" 21:9 GSync, 2x4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2x2TB Samsung 990 SSD, EVGA 1000P2 PSU, 12.9" iPad Pro Thrustmaster TCA Boeing Yoke, TCA Airbus Sidestick, Twin TCA Airbus Throttle quads, PFC Cirrus Pedals, Coolermaster HAF932 case Sys2 (P3Dv5/v4): i9-13900KS, water 2x360mm, ASUS Z790 Hero, 32GB GSkill 7800MHz CAS36, ASUS RTX4090 Samsung 55" JS8500 4K TV@60Hz, 3x 2TB WD SN850X 1x 4TB Crucial P3 M.2 NVME SSD, EVGA 1600T2 PSU Fiber link to Yamaha RX-V467 Home Theater Receiver, Polk/Klipsch 6" bookshelf speakers, Polk 12" subwoofer, 12.9" iPad Pro PFC yoke/throttle quad/pedals with custom Hall sensor retrofit, Thermaltake View 71 case, Stream Deck XL button box Sys3 (DCS/P3Dv4/ATS/ETS): AMD 7800X3D, MSI MPG X870E Carbon, Noctua NH-D15S, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, EVGA RTX3090 Alienware AW3420DW 34" 21:9 GSync, Corsair HX1000i PSU, 4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2TB Samsung 970Evo Plus, TM TCA Officer Pack, Saitek combat pedals, TM Warthog, TM RS300 FF wheel/pedals, Coolermaster HAF XB case
July 17, 20169 yr that WIndows 7 64-bit is still Lockheed-Martin's officially recommended OS for Prepar3D. That does not mean anything bad, or less than optimal will occur if you happen to use Win8 or Win10. Maybe its just a case of LM needing to update their system requirements, which are always a bit of a nonsense at the best of times. Win10 and Nvidia 368.81 seems pretty blooming fine for me..... no glitches, crashes, or poor performance here.... shrug :/
July 18, 20169 yr http://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonkelly/2016/07/14/microsoft-confirms-windows-10-new-monthly-charge/?utm_source=yahoo&utm_medium=partner&utm_campaign=yahootix&partner=yahootix&yptr=yahoo#160fdd50dfab
July 18, 20169 yr Oh I love my windows 7 and will be staying as long as it is supported. If this link is anything to go by i will be Ok for another 4 years "hopefully" https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/13853/windows-lifecycle-fact-sheet
July 18, 20169 yr Oh I love my windows 7 and will be staying as long as it is supported. If this link is anything to go by i will be Ok for another 4 years "hopefully" https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/13853/windows-lifecycle-fact-sheet And in 4 years you will most likely have a new PC by then, with a monthly subscription to Windows 10 that you can conveniently pay with your credit card,. :wink:
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