July 18, 20169 yr Thanks Bob, for the good news. Thinking more seriously about a Mac now, whatever this would mean for simming. Maybe, X-Plane 11 will not be that ugly as X-Plane 10 is :wink:. AeroflyFS2 is expected to get a MacPort, and doesn't JV run P3D on a Mac, after all? (Which would probably require a Windows license to be paid for one day either... dang). Elaine, could you resist should P3D go DX12 one day? Kind regards, Michael Intel i7-13700K / AsRock Z790 / Crucial 32 GB DDR 5 / ASUS RTX 4080OC 16GB / BeQuiet ATX 1000W / WD m.2 NVMe 2TB (System) / WD m.2 NVMe 4 TB (MSFS) / WD HDD 10 TB / XTOP+Saitek hardware panel / LG 34UM95 3440 x 1440 / HP Reverb 1 (2160x2160 per eye) / Win 11
July 18, 20169 yr And in 4 years you will most likely have a new PC by then, with a monthly subscription to Windows 10 that you can conveniently pay with your credit card,. :wink: Ya see Bob i have a cunning plan!! In 2020 I'm going to upgrade to Windows 8.1 which will give me another 3 years of resistance ! Bob, we will talk in 2023 Elaine, could you resist should P3D go DX12 one day? Well this is it Michael, I will look and lurch in the background then decided to pounce or not
July 18, 20169 yr If you upgrade to W10 is there still a problem if like me you plan to upgrade your GTX some time next year. I read reports saying you could not change things like that for it to still activate? Is that still true? David Murden. MSFS • Fenix A320 • PMDG 737 • MG Honda Jet • 414 / TDS 750Xi • FS-ATC Chatter • FlyingIron Spitfire & ME109G • MG Honda Jet • • Fenix A320 Walkthrough PDF • Flightsim.to • DCS • A10c II • F-16c • F/A-18c • F-14 • (Others in hanger) • Supercarrier • Terrains = • Nevada NTTR • Persian Gulf • Syria • Marianas • • [email protected] All Cores HT ON • 32GB DDR4 3200MHz • RTX 3080 • TM Warthog HOTAS • TM TPR • Corsair Virtuoso XT with Dolby Atmos® • Samsung G7 32" 1440p 240Hz • TrackIR 5 & ProClip •
July 18, 20169 yr the anniversary edition of windows 10 comes out on august 2nd, i am currently on the current insider build and everything works properly.everytime a new build is released i have to reactivate my products,but i don't see a huge increase in performance between windows 7 and 10, but while you still have the option to upgrade for free until the 29th, it's worth it.anything newer than the 6700k you will not be able to install windows 7 on the hardware, microsoft and intel are blocking it from working.
July 18, 20169 yr You can still install Windows7 on Skylake builds. There are some known issues with some motherboards (namely those with only USB3) but there are also fixes supplied by the motherboard manufacturers. It generally stems from Windows 7 not natively supporting USB3 but users with a Win7 SP1 DVD can easily get past it. i7-13700KF, 32gb DDR4 3200, RTX 4080, Win 11, MSFS 2024
July 20, 20169 yr One giant gotcha, from Microsoft at: https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_10-win_upgrade/reinstalling-windows-10-after-upgrade/578d0b7f-57e4-4893-b9d1-6cfac0d6290a?auth=1 Q: What happens if I change the hardware configuration of my Windows 10 device? A: If the hardware configuration of your Windows 10 device changes significantly (e.g. motherboard change) Windows may require re-activation on the device. This is the same experience as prior versions of Windows (e.g. Windows 7 and Windows 8.1). The free upgrade offer will not apply to activation of Windows 10 in such scenarios where hardware changes reset Activation. A retail Win 7 installation allows you to migrate it from one PC and/or configuration to another at-will. Once you use your Win 7 license to upgrade to Win 10 you are now essentially locked to a specific computer just as if you bought an OEM version of Windows. If you change your hardware enough to trigger reactivation, you will not be able to re-upgrade to Win 10 without paying. That, in its own right, is a heel-screeching showstopper for me. Regards Bob Scott | President and CEO, AVSIM Inc ATP Gulfstream II-III-IV-V Sys1 (MSFS20+24/XPlane12+11): AMD 9800X3D, water 2x240mm, MSI MPG X670E Carbon, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, nVidia RTX4090FE Alienware AW3821DW 38" 21:9 GSync, 2x4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2x2TB Samsung 990 SSD, EVGA 1000P2 PSU, 12.9" iPad Pro Thrustmaster TCA Boeing Yoke, TCA Airbus Sidestick, Twin TCA Airbus Throttle quads, PFC Cirrus Pedals, Coolermaster HAF932 case Sys2 (P3Dv5/v4): i9-13900KS, water 2x360mm, ASUS Z790 Hero, 32GB GSkill 7800MHz CAS36, ASUS RTX4090 Samsung 55" JS8500 4K TV@60Hz, 3x 2TB WD SN850X 1x 4TB Crucial P3 M.2 NVME SSD, EVGA 1600T2 PSU Fiber link to Yamaha RX-V467 Home Theater Receiver, Polk/Klipsch 6" bookshelf speakers, Polk 12" subwoofer, 12.9" iPad Pro PFC yoke/throttle quad/pedals with custom Hall sensor retrofit, Thermaltake View 71 case, Stream Deck XL button box Sys3 (DCS/P3Dv4/ATS/ETS): AMD 7800X3D, MSI MPG X870E Carbon, Noctua NH-D15S, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, EVGA RTX3090 Alienware AW3420DW 34" 21:9 GSync, Corsair HX1000i PSU, 4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2TB Samsung 970Evo Plus, TM TCA Officer Pack, Saitek combat pedals, TM Warthog, TM RS300 FF wheel/pedals, Coolermaster HAF XB case
July 20, 20169 yr One giant gotcha, from Microsoft at: https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_10-win_upgrade/reinstalling-windows-10-after-upgrade/578d0b7f-57e4-4893-b9d1-6cfac0d6290a?auth=1 A retail Win 7 installation allows you to migrate it from one PC and/or configuration to another at-will. Once you use your Win 7 license to upgrade to Win 10 you are now essentially locked to a specific computer just as if you bought an OEM version of Windows. If you change your hardware enough to trigger reactivation, you will not be able to re-upgrade to Win 10 without paying. That, in its own right, is a heel-screeching showstopper for me. Regards I'm pretty sure this is incorrect. Once you upgrade a retail Win7 to Win 10 you cannot reuse the Win7 licence on another computer. You can however reinstall Windows 10 as needed. The upgrade inherits the original retail benefit. Taken from Win Supersite. "If I purchased my copy of Windows 7 or 8/8.1 as a retail license from a store (brick and mortar or online/digital) and I upgrade to the free Windows 10 can I transfer that to a new computer under the retail licensing? (23 June 2015) YES" Cheers, howevr
July 20, 20169 yr Is WDDM2.0 support of any benefit for P3D or other DX11 software ? Or does it requires specific updates within P3D engine by LM skunks ? -Jerome "In thrust we trust"
July 20, 20169 yr One giant gotcha, from Microsoft at: https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_10-win_upgrade/reinstalling-windows-10-after-upgrade/578d0b7f-57e4-4893-b9d1-6cfac0d6290a?auth=1 A retail Win 7 installation allows you to migrate it from one PC and/or configuration to another at-will. Once you use your Win 7 license to upgrade to Win 10 you are now essentially locked to a specific computer just as if you bought an OEM version of Windows. If you change your hardware enough to trigger reactivation, you will not be able to re-upgrade to Win 10 without paying. I never knew that!
July 20, 20169 yr I'm pretty sure this is incorrect. Once you upgrade a retail Win7 to Win 10 you cannot reuse the Win7 licence on another computer. You can however reinstall Windows 10 as needed. The upgrade inherits the original retail benefit. Taken from Win Supersite. "If I purchased my copy of Windows 7 or 8/8.1 as a retail license from a store (brick and mortar or online/digital) and I upgrade to the free Windows 10 can I transfer that to a new computer under the retail licensing? (23 June 2015) YES" Cheers, All I can say is that that the info I posted was taken (and I provided the source) from an official Microsoft website...yours is not. So, if I am left to decide between the answer given by Microsoft, or some guy on an unsanctioned Windows-themed website, I have to go with the official answer. Maybe MS took months to answer this question with a very carefully-worded reply and got it wrong?! Regards Bob Scott | President and CEO, AVSIM Inc ATP Gulfstream II-III-IV-V Sys1 (MSFS20+24/XPlane12+11): AMD 9800X3D, water 2x240mm, MSI MPG X670E Carbon, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, nVidia RTX4090FE Alienware AW3821DW 38" 21:9 GSync, 2x4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2x2TB Samsung 990 SSD, EVGA 1000P2 PSU, 12.9" iPad Pro Thrustmaster TCA Boeing Yoke, TCA Airbus Sidestick, Twin TCA Airbus Throttle quads, PFC Cirrus Pedals, Coolermaster HAF932 case Sys2 (P3Dv5/v4): i9-13900KS, water 2x360mm, ASUS Z790 Hero, 32GB GSkill 7800MHz CAS36, ASUS RTX4090 Samsung 55" JS8500 4K TV@60Hz, 3x 2TB WD SN850X 1x 4TB Crucial P3 M.2 NVME SSD, EVGA 1600T2 PSU Fiber link to Yamaha RX-V467 Home Theater Receiver, Polk/Klipsch 6" bookshelf speakers, Polk 12" subwoofer, 12.9" iPad Pro PFC yoke/throttle quad/pedals with custom Hall sensor retrofit, Thermaltake View 71 case, Stream Deck XL button box Sys3 (DCS/P3Dv4/ATS/ETS): AMD 7800X3D, MSI MPG X870E Carbon, Noctua NH-D15S, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, EVGA RTX3090 Alienware AW3420DW 34" 21:9 GSync, Corsair HX1000i PSU, 4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2TB Samsung 970Evo Plus, TM TCA Officer Pack, Saitek combat pedals, TM Warthog, TM RS300 FF wheel/pedals, Coolermaster HAF XB case
July 20, 20169 yr All I can say is that that the info I posted was taken (and I provided the source) from an official Microsoft website...yours is not. No worries - how about the fact that the EULA says you can. Refer to the Windows 10 Licence Agreement Clause 4 b of the EULA states Stand-alone software. If you acquired the software as stand-alone software (and also if you upgraded from software you acquired as stand-alone software), you may transfer the software to another device that belongs to you. You may also transfer the software to a device owned by someone else if (i) you are the first licensed user of the software and (ii) the new user agrees to the terms of this agreement. You may use the backup copy we allow you to make or the media that the software came on to transfer the software. Every time you transfer the software to a new device, you must remove the software from the prior device. You may not transfer the software to share licenses between devices. Here is a link to the Supersite article http://winsupersite.com/windows-10/windows-10-upgrade-and-installation-frequently-asked-questions Hope this helps allay your concern. Cheers. howevr
July 20, 20169 yr My OS install was an OEM version, so that point does not bother me either way, however if I ever did want to go back, you can get Win7 licences for very little - around £20GBP. So its hardly the end of the world for anyone
July 20, 20169 yr All this fretting about subscriptions, in the first place if you looked carefully at the article its for "Enterprise" customers, not for home or prosumer, I think people just love to hate MS Further, subs surround us, there is a cost to doing business, see how you feel if your paycheck stopped because your employer just hated having to "subscribe" to your expertise, ahem Jack F. Vogel, Delta Virtual Airlines
July 20, 20169 yr I think people just love to hate MS Yup. As those on the gaming (and other) forums say "haters gonna hate" which is sad, but true in most cases here :/ I have every reason to 'hate' as it was forced upon me, but Win10 is the best OS I have used to date. It's slick and very nice to use, once you've become familiar with its differences. Its absolutley the most stable OS I've ever had, and if I have to build a new PC its Win10 that's going on it. I've yet to encounter a single negative, so there
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