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:sad: I was lucky enough to be a passenger a good few times on this bird - EGLL ->  KIAD BA222/BA223 (so infamous for it's flight delays they changed the flight number!)  and EHAM -> RCTP. Great times.

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End on an era.....I've never flown there, but it certainly has made the history of civil aviation.

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I like the B747 for her look and her systems and I like flying her in sims as much as I didn't like the real experiences I had as passenger!

I had two flights with two different European companies in the -400 and there were the least comfortable I ever had. Packed in like sardines in a tin, no space for the legs, and extremely narrow seats. The 777 and Airbus A330/340 were much more comfortable with the same companies.

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So I guess I'll never fly in one of these... :sad:

 

They won't vanish instantly just because there are no new once produced.

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The 747 is the reason I got into aviation. Though I wasn't able to travel on it as a passenger. I was lucky enough to stand inside the wheel well of this beautiful aircraft.(now that I think of it... Really wasn't the best place to be in)

 

Thank you air France engineers

If pmdg takes any longer to show more preview shots (at least)... I'll explode

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I like the B747 for her look and her systems and I like flying her in sims as much as I didn't like the real experiences I had as passenger!

I had two flights with two different European companies in the -400 and there were the least comfortable I ever had. Packed in like sardines in a tin, no space for the legs, and extremely narrow seats. The 777 and Airbus A330/340 were much more comfortable with the same companies.

That depends on the airline's seating configuration of course. I've had some comfortable long haul flights in 747 economy. I've also had very cramped flights in 777s. Nothing can beat the upper deck of a 747 for comfort though.

 

Sad but inevitable that 747 production will come to an end.

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I've heard Lufthansa 747's are quite comfortable..

Yes, they're not too bad. The flight-attendants, well they're another matter.

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So I guess I'll never fly in one of these... :sad:

 

They dropped production of the 757 back in 2004, but:

http://flightaware.com/live/aircrafttype/B752

 

Yes, they're not too bad. The flight-attendants, well they're another matter.

 

Mainly, I think it's just the German aspect that's off putting. Then again, my family is from over that way, and I have a German roommate, so I might just be used to it? I've always found that speaking in German helps, too. In line with this thread, I got up onto the flight deck of one of Lufthansa's 744s, after asking as nicely as I could in German, back in 2005 when I was headed back over to Norway.

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I was lucky enough to fly in the very front seat of a Boeing 747-400. British Airways Barbados to Gatwick. That was very comfortable 

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I got up onto the flight deck of one of Lufthansa's 744s, after asking as nicely as I could in German,

That's one thing the engineers didn't allow me to do.. If only I could speak in french.

Then again.. At that age I wasn't really able to speak any language. Except gibberish.

 

Which I still seem to speak.

 

Kyle, did you fall in love with her or what?

 

PS. There seems to be some problem in quoting from my side. Please excuse the above failed attempt to quote.

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TWA and PanAm 747-200 from KJFK to EDDF and EDDF to KJFK on the TWA. First Class. It was nice. I also just remembered flying a Delta 747-200 KDTW to KTPA. Talk about a mismatch of route and airplane, this was it, But every airline wanted them in their fleet whether they made economic sense or not.

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Oh noo... so sad for this... :(

I hope to fly on a Boeing 747-400, it's a piece of history

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Kyle, did you fall in love with her or what?

 

The flight attendant or the plane?  :P

 

I'd always been a fan of the 744. I'd flown on one a few years earlier on the way back from London (the BA crew were not as accommodating - then again, it was also a flight back to Washington DC around the time we were being hypersensitive about everything having to do with aviation), and on a 742 back around 1994. One of the FAs took my brother and myself upstairs to see the upper deck, which was empty as it was an equipment swap for spring break travel down to Miami. While I was up there, I got a really good view of Halley's Comet, as the lights were off. The flight back from FRA to IAD was a UAL 744, and was definitely one of the older ones, as it still played the film from a projector onto the bulkhead.

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Favorite 747 trip:  Athens-Rome-JFK TWA, I was coming home for a year assignment in Greece on a military ticket, which I upgraded to ambassador class for a couple hundred bucks.

Worst 747 trip:  TWA St Louis - JFK - Frankfort but due to a storm we didn't land JFK. This almost empty aircraft circled somewhere near NY for an hour then flew back to St Louis, which was jammed with folks not getting to East Coast. Bags lost of course.  Again on a military ticket, which got me rerouted next day St Louis - ORD - Frankfort on a United 767. Bags found me two weeks later....so I went to Europe without my underwear LOL.

Notable flight:  JFK-Frankfort TWA with half full cabin.  I claimed on of the rear center rows, four or five chairs across, and lifted the arms and made a cot.

Most Exciting 747 event: The long SAC runway at Offutt AFB ends at a steep decline, where the ILS antenna is mounted on a large wood platform. Being a ground communications officer, that platform was part of my territory and I stood on it one day as the NEACP (pronounced kneecap, the backup to Air Force One) rolled into position and took off barely a 1000 feet in front of me. That was so cool.... and to this day I miss the smell of JP-4 in the morning.

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and to this day I miss the smell of JP-4 in the morning.

 

Dan

Were you thinking of this -"Smell that? You smell that? Napalm, son. Nothing else in the world smells like that. I love the smell of napalm in the morning. You know, one time we had a hill bombed, for 12 hours. When it was all over, I walked up. We didn't find one of 'em, not one stinkin' dink body. The smell, you know that gasoline smell, the whole hill. Smelled like... Victory."

Lietuenant Colonel Kilgore, Apocalypse Now

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Mainly, I think it's just the German aspect that's off putting. Then again, my family is from over that way, and I have a German roommate, so I might just be used to it? I've always found that speaking in German helps, too. In line with this thread, I got up onto the flight deck of one of Lufthansa's 744s, after asking as nicely as I could in German, back in 2005 when I was headed back over to Norway.

Nah, it was just one flight-attendant in particular. I speak a bit of Deutsch myself,but it was just the manner of this lady. I was coughing on the plane before take-off, and my wife asked the attendant for some water,and the lady replied "that is not my job". I was happy enough to wait after takeoff,but my wife was worried about me.

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They won't vanish instantly just because there are no new once produced.

 

They dropped production of the 757 back in 2004, but:

http://flightaware.com/live/aircrafttype/B752

 

You guys are right. I was kind of hasty in my statement...

It's just... well... I don't travel a lot and where I live the 777s are really taking over all the long hauls...

(In fact, I just learned that there's a British Airways flight with 747s from SBGR to EGLL... so there's still hope, I guess. I can only hope the 747s will still being used when I have the time and money to do such travels... :P ).

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I've heard Lufthansa 747's are quite comfortable..

 

You heard wrong.

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Gents - for those of you making comments about the comfort of the aircraft in terms of the seats, that's all up to the airline to choose. General passenger comfort has more to do with what the airline chooses to put in the plane, and not as much about the plane itself.

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I'm on a Qantas Jumbo this October. Sydney-San Francisco and return. Can't wait! :)

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