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Virtual Cockpit Views and Movement - What software/Hardware to use

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Folks,
 

I've noticed in a lot of videos how easy it seems for users to quickly move around the virtual cockpit in the PMDG, Aerosoft, etc add-ons. What software/hardware should I consider to add this level of realism to my sim?

 

I've see Track-IR, but prefer not to have to wear a hat or visor when simming.

 

Thanks in advance for any guidance.

 

Busdriver

 

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EZDok is what you want. It's a camera add-on that lets you set and configure your own camera views and bind them to keys or buttons. Essential.

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Ezdok is what I use. Works very well. Very customizable. Not intuitive to use so be ready to read the manual.

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I use Aivlasoft EasyCam.

 

Looks nice.

Nevertheless you only can define max of 10 views, and apparently no external views.

Therefore I would advise Ezdok too, although it has a bit cumbersome interface.

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If you fly with headphones instead of external speakers, Track-IR has a thing (Track-Pro?) that clips to the headphones, so you don't have to wear a hat or a visor.  I've used it for four years without trouble.

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Track IR and get the Track hat pro which goes on the side of your headphones...no cap required...

 

Dave

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I use TrackIR with the TrackClip Pro also. 

 

Vic

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How do you easily switch views with EzDok? Do you use the keyboard?

 

You use the keyboard, joystick or you can click them in the ezdok client. I use a preset for the main forward view, overhead and pedistal assigned to number keys 1, 2, 3 respectively. I use Shift+1, Shift+2 etc for external cameras and wing views. Works extremely well.

 

I had track IR and wasn't a big fan. Works great in DCS for fighters but anything else isn't very well suited. Clicking things on the panel is more of a challenge with track IR since you can to be aware of your head movements to make sure you don't miss click. Also, gotta wear a thing on your head. Meh, it's definitely a powerful product but wasn't for me.

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I've never been interested in EZdoc for years, finally gave it a go... took a while to get my head around it. Now I love it. I managed to get things setup to where I can use it pretty well. I don't know why I fought using it for so long. I've got it setup on about half of the planes I usually fly, I think it is really nice. Once you figure it out, you can use TIR, hat , keyboard and joystick buttons together. I've managed to keep to the same setup for all planes, less confusing that way. 

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How does EZdok compare to the in-sim P3D camera system?

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I've been using TIR for many years but lately I've started using the built-in way of moving around by simply holding SPACE and move around with the mouse and I think it works really well and then you can very easily zoom in/out by scrolling the mousewheel.

 

Edited to add that of course you will miss out from the immersion TIR will provide vs using SPACE and the mouse but at the same time you won't have to continuously keep thinking about holding your head perfectly still or pause TIR not to mention re-center the view every now and then.

 

I guess both ways moving around have their pros and cons as always.

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So instead of just slightly moving your head, you trade for tying up both hands? What's next Richard?  Dump your yoke and throttle and use the keyboard for flight?

 

:Tounge:

 

Sorry, just couldn't resist - my weird sense of humor just took over......

 

Seriously though - I just love TIR but I had the same complaints you voice. My solution was to map a rocker switch on the yoke to F9/F12.  I never worry about head movement when I don't want it. Doing that was probably the best move I made for my simming experience. Flicking the rocker switch takes all of a split second and my views are exactly where I want. It would not be the same doing it from the keyboard, the idea being that my thumb is near the rocker switch and it becomes second nature to flick it as I look around.

 

 

Vic

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Although I don't like having to recenter the TIR all the time (even though I have an easy to access button for that on my joystick) I really can't fly without TiR. Moving around with hat switches or a mouse never ever is as quick and intuitive as TiR.

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Yeah guys, I know it sounds crazy :lol:

 

I guess I should have mentioned that obviously I don't use the SPACE and mouse combo when flying manually but only when I'm on autopilot or on the ground preparing for the flight or shutting down after a flight. When flying manually I mainly look straight ahead and using a zoom level that allows me to see what I need in the NGX v/c and should I need to briefly look into another direction I'll use the hat switch and then I have a button on my CH yoke to quickly re-center the view.

 

I did use the same method you mention Vic having buttons mapped to pause and re-center the view also when I was using TIR but still it honestly felt like a relief to get rid of the TIR for a while after using it for many years and I honestly don't miss it...at least not so far.

 

Maybe you guys should give it a go too. Who knows, you might end up as crazy as me :wink:

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Is there a work around of some sort, so as to not need a visor or hat? I also don't fly the sim with a headset, but may in time, as I learn more about VATSIM or some other form of ATC.

 

Thanks,

Busdriver

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Is there a work around of some sort, so as to not need a visor or hat? I also don't fly the sim with a headset, but may in time, as I learn more about VATSIM or some other form of ATC.

 

Thanks,

Busdriver

 

Like someone already mentioned for TIR there's something called TrackClip Pro that mounts to the mic boom of a headset but obviously if you don't use a headset that won't be of much help to you...

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I have the Pro Clip but do not use it. After trying it for a bit I got tired of the extra wires and the sheer size of the thing. Plus: it is much lower than the clip and with a tall monitor the camera would not work properly on top of the monitor.

The clip works just fine.

Track Clip Pro anyone? Cheap, used less than an hour -)

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What I did when using the TIR and Track Clip Pro to get rid of the wires was to get a wireless headset and a small portable battery pack with a USB connector and I then just put the battery pack in my pocket.

 

Worked really well!

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I use EZ dok. I have had Track IR for many years, but find that many times, I don't even bother using it, and just you the hat switch to look around the cockpit, or a joystick button to change views with Ezdok. Best use for Track IR, is flying a GA aircraft in an airport traffic pattern. 

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Download FaceTrackNoIR and have a go with that if you don't want to wear anything.

It's pretty good for a) free (if you have a webcam) and b ) not having to wear anything, and gives you an idea of what head tracking is about.

 

You can cheaply make your own tracker hat or clip if you have a few practical skills rather than buying TrackIR.

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