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CAREFUL: using FTX Central kills your ability to make specific regions or global active

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It ruined today's flying here on a rainy day when I open FTX Central and discover it was not possible to get to the interface so I could change active regions or deactivate all specific regions and just use global.  I use global only for flying PMDG stuff, and use regionals for mostly VFR or less aircraft.  So I ended up doing the migration and now at the gate at KPDX in the NGX we're at 18 frames instead of the normal 26 when global only is active.  JV says they are working on restoring what they removed--I hope it's soon.  Moderator Nick says one can do this manually in the scenery library so I tried unchecking PNW scenery but alas this corrupted the terrain and textures around KPDX.

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Can't you just disable it in the Scenery?  I use SimStarter for that and haven't noticed any difference.

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Can't you just disable it in the Scenery?  I use SimStarter for that and haven't noticed any difference.

 

Well, I tried by unchecking all sceneries that had PNW in their names, but as I say KPDX was corrupted.  I am not experienced in how the scenery library works so presumably unchecking the PNW sceneries removed some other stuff.  I'll just hang it up until ORBX restores what they removed.  

 

I've lost patience for tweaking and screwing w/ problems caused by a developer who didn't think it mattered to break functionality w/ no way out.  The nice red warning panel said it all.  Couldn't even open up FTX and change active scenery.   I have had the sense from JV previously his model is to do whatever he wants regardless of impacts to paying customers until enough people complain--as long as they complain tactfully and don't dis ORBX in the process.  He is the dictator of his forum and closes down threads that don't paint a rosy picture of ORBX--I think it comes w/ having little competition.

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I've lost patience for tweaking and screwing w/ making stuff work.

 

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I get round the same problem as the OP has by having two FSX intalls on my PC one pre migration and the other post migration.  Just change drive letters depending which one I want to use.  Pretty unsatisfactory having to do this but have little alternative as even with Scenery Config Editor you can't get the FTX Central scenery activation/deactivation functionality that was lost post migration.

 

Bruceb

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Interesting views on this.  Since I don't fly the heavies I would never have thought about this issue.

Sorry I can't help you on this one.

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havnt  had  any issues  at all  one of the best things  orbx  have  done,  don t have  to open up  ftx   central   to change  regions  which was  a pain,  can fly  anywhere  and  don't  have  to worry  about  using  ftx  central  anymore.

 

The  new  ftx  v2  and  v3  there is  no option  to change  region  hence  the migration  so  the topic  is  misleading  and  hence  that's  why there  are insertion points  option  in the  ftx central  all explained  in the manual   and  orbx  forum

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I also don't see the problem. Region switching has not been necessary ever since Orbx has rolled out the unified lclookup file with the old FTX Central v2. Switching off regions can easily be achieved by deselecting the items in the scenery.cfg.

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I also don't see the problem. Region switching has not been necessary ever since Orbx has rolled out the unified lclookup file with the old FTX Central v2. Switching off regions can easily be achieved by deselecting the items in the scenery.cfg.

I do see the problem because deactivating the scenerys does not deactivate the multitude of elevation adjustment files in scenery/world/scenery. You have to rename them to deactivate them. This is something ftx central should do. It is really a shame that there is no option for it.

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I do see the problem because deactivating the scenerys does not deactivate the multitude of elevation adjustment files in scenery/world/scenery.

 

Fair point! I only deactivate the regions when I fly tubeliners. And then I don't notice elevation problems with the small airports. But this is really something that FTX Central should handle. Rob has asked Orbx to include a "global only" option in FTX Central. Let's hope they listen... 

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I'll just say that there are some good products out there that alleviate the whole situation.  I use SimStarter and it is wonderful at this...enabling to switch between scenery sets and sim configuration based on the kind of flying I'm doing and where I'm flying.  Flying high with jets in Europe?...lower density, turn off everything but Europe.  I actually put Vector all by itself in a profile and select when to turn it on...usually for low flying.  I have my scenery divided into:

  • Eastern US
  • Central US
  • Western US
  • Pacific
  • Caribbean
  • Europe
  • Vector

I turn on all the ones I want when I want.  I have configurations for:

  • GA flying
  • Jets
  • Night
  • HDR (an odd one, I know)

Anyway, this saves an ENORMOUS amount of time and pain.  The sim loads much faster since it doesn't need to load everything and it's easy.  I know Orbx can solve this but there are other ways, like Simstarter or another similar tool, to solve it which is actually better. 

 

There are other tools than SimStarter but it's good and pretty cheap.

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I use Scenery Config Editor to ... edit my scenery.cfg.

 

Pls. note that numerous addon airport developers use the scenery\world\scenery folder to make necessary adjustments, it's not only ORBX. Also bgl files created by MyTraffic influence how your airports are displayed - this technique really isn't ORBX-specific.

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a really misleading title...

Why misleading? Seems like a perfectly accurate description of the current situation, providing people take the trouble to read the original post. But then it never takes very long for Orbx fans to pop up when anyone dares to make any observation that is not glowing praise.

 

Greg,

Regarding the use of SimStarter, it looks like you've had this already installed before any changes to FTX Central. Do you know if this would work in the same way if installed after the changes to FTX Central. I suspect it works through the scenery library, and would probably have the same results described by the OP.

 

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Greg,

Regarding the use of SimStarter, it looks like you've had this already installed before any changes to FTX Central. Do you know if this would work in the same way if installed after the changes to FTX Central. I suspect it works through the scenery library, and would probably have the same results described by the OP.

 

Absolutely.  You can install it any time and start dividing things up.  I'm thinking about dividing my Europe sceneries up the same way I do North America.  You just come up with a plan on how you want to divide it, make some new sets (e.g. Europe North and Europe South) and then just putting the sceneries into it...doesn't matter if it's cities, regions, or airports...just enable it in the one and disable it in the other.  If I'm flying North to South I just enable both.

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I do see the problem because deactivating the scenerys does not deactivate the multitude of elevation adjustment files in scenery/world/scenery. You have to rename them to deactivate them. This is something ftx central should do. It is really a shame that there is no option for it.

 

Thank you.  ORBX says they've had enough complaints about this that they are re-adding the ability to activate regions or Global Only.  It absolutely matters and they just didn't understand why.

 

Salsero, can you see a way for me to get back to Global Only w/o a complete reinstall?

havnt  had  any issues  at all  one of the best things  orbx  have  done,  don t have  to open up  ftx   central   to change  regions  which was  a pain,  can fly  anywhere  and  don't  have  to worry  about  using  ftx  central  anymore.

 

The  new  ftx  v2  and  v3  there is  no option  to change  region  hence  the migration  so  the topic  is  misleading  and  hence  that's  why there  are insertion points  option  in the  ftx central  all explained  in the manual   and  orbx  forum

 

Show me one segment in the manual that explains how to run Global Only.  The 'pain' you refer to was a case of opening FTX and clicking Global Only or selecting which entire entire continents you wanted to become active.  This 'pain' compares w/ what it takes to go into the scenery library and uncheck all regions you don't want active and then have to screw w/ the corrupted elevation changes?  Bologna!

 

Right now I'm at a loss to pick up where I left off beyond doing a complete reinstall of everything then installing Global Only and parking all of the regions I paid for until ORBX restores full functionality.   I do VFR and lighter local props now and again in the various sceneries I paid for, but 85% of the time it's FSCaptain flying PMDG 737 & 777.  My SB-E/GTX Titan can handle these only when using Global.  I fly almost daily doing this and as of yesterday, it's effectively over until I can get back to Global Only.  Yes, I'm miffed and well have a right to be.   My bad was assuming ORBX would not do this else I would have NOT done the migration.  The reason I got tempted and went ahead w/ it was I wanted to do some local flying. 

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Why misleading? 

 

 

 

As the question of the day is going to Central 3 and OrbXDirect or not, it is misleading to present the absence of switching as something new. 

 

This issue (if there is one which is debatable as you can switch off regions with a simple manipulation without any terrain corruption or a launcher...) has nothing to do with version 3 of FTX Central. The ability to switch was lost with version 2 some months back when the new unified LClookup was introduced. I certainly am among those who don't regret a minute that wretched switching !

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Instead of switching between regions and Global, one could easily define and save a couple of profiles for the graphics settings. It's easy to change the active profile - it can even be done in game without restarting the simulator.

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As the question of the day is going to Central 3 and OrbXDirect or not, it is misleading to present the absence of switching as something new. 

 

This issue (if there is one which is debatable as you can switch off regions with a simple manipulation without any terrain corruption or a launcher...) has nothing to do with version 3 of FTX Central. The ability to switch was lost with version 2 some months back when the new unified LClookup was introduced. I certainly am among those who don't regret a minute that wretched switching !

Nothing to add. I have been using SimStarter for switching off regions before and after the FTX Central 3 transition, nothing changed.

 

Kind regards, Michael

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As the question of the day is going to Central 3 and OrbXDirect or not, it is misleading to present the absence of switching as something new. 

 

This issue (if there is one which is debatable as you can switch off regions with a simple manipulation without any terrain corruption or a launcher...) has nothing to do with version 3 of FTX Central. The ability to switch was lost with version 2 some months back when the new unified LClookup was introduced. I certainly am among those who don't regret a minute that wretched switching !

 

Going to FTX Central 3 or not may be your 'Question of the Day',  but it was not the point being made by the OP.  Posts on this forum are for any reasonable topic within the general forum heading, not just those that other people regard as 'topical'.

 

Whether there is an issue or not,  is a matter of differing views between users. You are clearly happy with what Orbx has done. Many others are not happy with the way the changes were  implemented. What some people regard as a practical workaround, others regard as an irritating nuisance .Personally I think Orbx produce some quite good products, but I don't like their arrogant attitude, which is reflected in their own support forums

 

Hopefully this current issue will be sorted quickly. 

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Going to FTX Central 3 or not may be your 'Question of the Day',  but it was not the point being made by the OP.  Posts on this forum are for any reasonable topic within the general forum heading, not just those that other people regard as 'topical'.

 

Whether there is an issue or not,  is a matter of differing views between users. You are clearly happy with what Orbx has done. Many others are not happy with the way the changes were  implemented. What some people regard as a practical workaround, others regard as an irritating nuisance .Personally I think Orbx produce some quite good products, but I don't like their arrogant attitude, which is reflected in their own support forums

 

Hopefully this current issue will be sorted quickly. 

 

whatever you say  :rolleyes:  ...

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 ORBX says they've had enough complaints about this that they are re-adding the ability to activate regions or Global Only.

 

 

Grateful if someone could direct to where Orbx have stated their intention to reinstate this feature to FTXC.  Thanks

 

Bruceb

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Grateful if someone could direct to where Orbx have stated their intention to reinstate this feature to FTXC.  Thanks

 

Bruceb

 

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I'm not looking so much for activating any one region in isolation, but instead being able to make Global Only an option because that is what I need to be able to run PMDG products in the US West Coast areas.

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I'm not looking so much for activating any one region in isolation, but instead being able to make Global Only an option because that is what I need to be able to run PMDG products in the US West Coast areas.

 

 

Thanks, that is precisely what I would like to have too. Hopefully orbx will deliver on this.

 

Bruceb

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