And here I sit with my Sandy i2500K chugging along at 4.7.  Is there any way to quantify what kind of performance increase I would see with this new chip at the same clock speed of 4.7?  (note that I have a GTX970 card)

I'm in the same boat, same processor, looking forward to more information to help me decide between upgrading to the i7 6700k or 7700k

Another article, he reached 5.2ghz with the 7600k and 5.0ghz with the 7700k, which is interesting though it doesn't say whether that was air or water cooling

 

https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2017/01/05/hands-on-with-intels-new-kaby-lake-cpu/#more-421563

me too, 2500k at 4.9GHz, but I'll probably pull the trigger on 7700k. Right now I'm looking at Newegg:

 

7700K CPU: $350

ASUS ROG Strix Z270E: $200

G.SKILL 32GB (2x 16GB) DDR4 3000: $250

 

That's all I need to do upgrade. $800 exactly. 

A comparison between the 2700K and 6700K (both overclocked).  The 7700K is already proven not be be appreciably faster than the 6700K.  The true advantage of the Kaby Lake "K" processors may end up being their ability to overclock higher than Skylake.

 

Benchmarks don't include FS (not surprising) but CPU intensive apps just the same: http://forums.joinsquad.com/topic/5973-my-2500k-vs-6700k-upgrade-fps-results-hefty-fps-increase/

 

HTH

 

Greg

On that page, 4GHz 6700K runs at 97.6% "effective speed",  3.5GHz 2700K runs 75% "effective speed".

 

By simple math, 2700K at 4GHz would be 85.7%, which means clock by clock 6700K/7700K would be ~ 13.8% faster.

 

Which means: at 7700K at 5GHz would run like my 2500K at least at 5.7GHz -- that's not too bad!

On newegg Canada the 7700k is only CDN$20 more than the 6700k...it would be a no brainer except the 7700k would also require me to move to windows 10, hmmmmm

I guess if you already have 6700k there is really no point to move to 7700k, but I have been holding on my 2500k for nearly 6 years now, time to jump the boat... 

To me 5 Ghz on the same architecture compared to 4.6 Ghz is certainly better (I currently run it at 1.41v to reach 4.6 Ghz). These 2-3 fps will make a difference in heavy scenarios. I upgraded in November knowing this is coming but fully determined to upgrade all times. I upgraded caused based on what I read the z170 will perform equally with the z270 for our sim purposes. Anyone knows if there is any shop in Europe currently selling it?

And here I sit with my Sandy i2500K chugging along at 4.7.  Is there any way to quantify what kind of performance increase I would see with this new chip at the same clock speed of 4.7?  (note that I have a GTX970 card)

In the exact same spot as you...same processor and gpu. I plan on upgrading very soon myself. Guess I'll get the 7700K w/ a 270 board(are those out yet?). Planning on getting a 1080 too I think. Basically building a whole new pc.

Z270 boards are out. There are plenty on Newegg and Amazon.

 

Just ordered 7700k, Asus Z270E and 32GB ram from Newegg as I listed above.

 

I'll be ###### if my XP 11 beta 3 still drags at 15fps with this shinning Kaby Lake...

In the exact same spot as you...same processor and gpu. I plan on upgrading very soon myself. Guess I'll get the 7700K w/ a 270 board(are those out yet?). Planning on getting a 1080 too I think. Basically building a whole new pc.

 

 

Z270 boards are out. There are plenty on Newegg and Amazon.

Just ordered 7700k, Asus Z270E and 32GB ram from Newegg as I listed above.

I'll be ###### if my XP 11 beta 3 still drags at 15fps with this shinning Kaby Lake...

 

 

I am looking at the same pieces of hardware: 7700K, Asus motherboard (haven't decided which yet but a ROG at least) and 32 RAM (maybe 3200: I'll see if 3600 is a lot more expensive). I am waiting for the 1080ti to be released though. Not that I immediately will buy that one but I want to see testresults from 1080 vs 1080ti and also am curious about the price difference. Together with all that I am going to get a Samsung 960 EVO (I think 2x500 GB but maybe 1x1GB) and plug those in those attractive M.2 slots the Asus 270 has. Anyway, what I wanted to say... I also would be  ###### if my XP 11 beta 3 still drags with all this...!!! (Right now I have a [email protected] and a GTX780 plus 16 GB RAM.)

 

EDIT

Oh, I am also (obviously) considering getting a 4K monitor. My current 1920x1080 monitor is getting really old... Haven't looked into monitors (tv's...?) at all yet, though...

 

BTW Obviously there is no guarantee you will be able to OC to 5GHz... I do think you have to be lucky...

And here I sit with my Sandy i2500K chugging along at 4.7.

 

I can't quantify, but having gone from i52500k @ 4.6 to i76700k @4.0 (4.2turbo), I can offer some anecdotal evidence; I saw significant improvement in performance for all of my games. I'm even wondering if I really need to overclock the i7, and I used to be a big sceptic of upgrading to something with a (nominally) lower clockspeed.

 

>>>>Just ordered 7700k, Asus Z270E and 32GB ram from Newegg as I listed above.

 

Yang,

 

I plan to get soon a similiar system as yours.

 

Could you please report your findings as far as performance is concerned  when you get you new system running?

 

Thanks!

Can't wait to see how AMD's offering does. Getting slightly bored of Intel dragging their feet with these processors and their artificial limitations, by just putting crappy TIM on the chips if they do too well, so they fit within some pre-arranged improvement percentage. They really need the competition ... We really need the competition.

 

 

Actually the Dow Corning TIM used between die and IHS isn't too bad in terms of quality, although obviously no where near as good as liquid metal TIM. It's the thick layer of adhesive that's more of an issue.

 

The Intel decision to use TIM between IHS and die isn't as simple as it seems. It's actually very complex and expensive to solder a die to an IHS, especially with the 14nm die shrink.

 

Very good article below on why it's not just a cost cutting exercise by Intel. There are good reasons for the switch.

 

http://overclocking.guide/the-truth-about-cpu-soldering/

 

Stop hating on Intel. Intel has some of the best engineers in the world when it comes to metallurgy. They know exactly what they are doing and the reason for conventional thermal paste in recent desktop CPUs is not as simple as it seems.

Micro cracks in solder preforms can damage the CPU permanently after a certain amount of thermal cycles and time. Conventional thermal paste doesn’t perform as good as the solder preform but it should have a longer durability – especially for small size DIE CPUs.

Thinking about the ecology it makes sense to use conventional thermal paste. Gold and indium are rare and expensive materials. Mining of these materials is complex and in addition it’s polluting.

After soldering one of my 6700K CPUs I can tell it’s a pretty complex process. I’m still working on it and trying to make it available for extreme overclockers. However, I doubt that Intel will come back with soldered “small DIE CPUs”. Skylake works great even with normal thermal paste so I see no reason why Intel should/would change anything here.

 

Re 7600K or 7700K... If you're on Skylake now, no point in upgrading for performance alone... unless you're happy with just a few frames extra courtesy of the higher overclock. Or, if you like the additional features the new architecture and boards bring to the table.

 

The other point of course is that if your motherboard has just gone bonkers and you need a new one... then the new Z270 boards will accommodate a Skylake chip, so you have a plethora of boards out there to choose from. 

>>>>Just ordered 7700k, Asus Z270E and 32GB ram from Newegg as I listed above.

 

Yang,

 

I plan to get soon a similiar system as yours.

 

Could you please report your findings as far as performance is concerned  when you get you new system running?

 

Thanks!

 

 

 

Edmundo, and all who opt for the new architecture, especially an Asus board...

 

Update your BIOS ASAP when your build your new system! The leaked reports of high temps were as a result of BIOS issues. Some of the background voltages were high and causing high temps. Latest BIOS drop temps substantially.