February 23, 20179 yr ESET NOD32 here...it has a gaming mode that stops scans while 3D applications are actively running. In 5 years it has never gotten in the way of FSX/P3D. That said, I am considering not renewing the AV license on my dedicated flight sim machine, since now I download pretty much everything for that box on another PC and it's checked there before moving it to the sim PC. I think I've only used the web browser on my sim box 4-5 times. And I do regular full system backups to stay ready for the next intrusive, system-breaking unwanted Win 10 forced driver update. Regards Bob Scott | President and CEO, AVSIM Inc ATP Gulfstream II-III-IV-V Sys1 (MSFS20+24/XPlane12+11): AMD 9800X3D, water 2x240mm, MSI MPG X670E Carbon, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, nVidia RTX4090FE Alienware AW3821DW 38" 21:9 GSync, 2x4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2x2TB Samsung 990 SSD, EVGA 1000P2 PSU, 12.9" iPad Pro Thrustmaster TCA Boeing Yoke, TCA Airbus Sidestick, Twin TCA Airbus Throttle quads, PFC Cirrus Pedals, Coolermaster HAF932 case Sys2 (P3Dv5/v4): i9-13900KS, water 2x360mm, ASUS Z790 Hero, 32GB GSkill 7800MHz CAS36, ASUS RTX4090 Samsung 55" JS8500 4K TV@60Hz, 3x 2TB WD SN850X 1x 4TB Crucial P3 M.2 NVME SSD, EVGA 1600T2 PSU Fiber link to Yamaha RX-V467 Home Theater Receiver, Polk/Klipsch 6" bookshelf speakers, Polk 12" subwoofer, 12.9" iPad Pro PFC yoke/throttle quad/pedals with custom Hall sensor retrofit, Thermaltake View 71 case, Stream Deck XL button box Sys3 (DCS/P3Dv4/ATS/ETS): AMD 7800X3D, MSI MPG X870E Carbon, Noctua NH-D15S, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, EVGA RTX3090 Alienware AW3420DW 34" 21:9 GSync, Corsair HX1000i PSU, 4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2TB Samsung 970Evo Plus, TM TCA Officer Pack, Saitek combat pedals, TM Warthog, TM RS300 FF wheel/pedals, Coolermaster HAF XB case
February 23, 20179 yr Thanks my friend. Yeah, I got my start back in 1980 with mainframes and went from there. I'm current on threat types and end point protection, but I'm not really current on the backend anymore - so much changes so quickly! I've also had somewhat recent threat training at the US Department of Defense (couple of years old but I've stayed updated via a few professional security websites. Watching what one click on is important, but doesn't stop all the threats - especially the mutated versions of state sponsored malware which is now pretty much everywhere. One thing is for certain today's threats to Personal Computers are not what the were yesterday. Let me put it this way... I'm encouraged, and absolutely see the need for the new home/small business routers that are coming out as they not only inspect header information but the payload as well. For anyone who ventures online, a Hardware Firewall (router or stand alone) and one of the computer Security Suites I referenced above are the minimums I'd ever recommend. I started working right athe transition. I went college and learned COBOL and JCL. My first job was crimping BNC to Netware 3.11 and writing SQL with FoxPro. The network was brutal as the wires ran across carpeted floor (!!), so almost every night as the buffalos ran out, something broke! 10700k / Gigabyte 3060
February 23, 20179 yr Commercial Member I think you might have me beat for college network disasters, though I built this crazy network of 100+ computers that was used for computational analysis and a separate psychology experiment, then allocated to NASA for number crunching. I made every single cable for that rig, and by the time I finished I could no longer feel the tips of my fingers! I much prefer mainframes! Anyway, we're digressed pretty far. Stop by the voice server sometime and we can catch up! Dave Hodges System Specs: I9-13900KF, NVIDIA 4070TI, Quest 3, Multiple Displays, Lots of TERRIFIC friends, 3 cats, and a wonderfully stubborn wife.
February 23, 20179 yr Windows Defender here, Malware bytes once in a while. I don't turn Defender off when running flight sims. I'm running a fairly strong system with plenty of CPU/RAM overhead and don't think it's causing me to lose anything in frame rate. X-Plane is very stable and tolerant of other processes running in the background. Heck, I even leave Steam running, and a few other background processes that I'd normally kill, if I felt my system was on the edge for flight sim performance. X-Plane and Microsoft Flight Simulator on Windows 10 i7 6700 4.0 GHz, 32 GB RAM, GTX 1660 ti, 1920x1200 monitor
February 23, 20179 yr Moderator I've always preferred Eset. I've found it interferes the least of all the major players when using the sim. Vic RIG#1 - I9 14900K MSI Pro z790 RTX 5070Ti 40" 4K Monitor 3840x2160
February 23, 20179 yr Author I've always preferred Eset. I've found it interferes the least of all the major players when using the sim. Vic In my experience, ESET was one of the reasons for switching to another AV which license is about to expire now, as mentioned in the OP. For some reason, according to what I was told by a qualified technician, ESET blocked my internet connection due to the IP being dinamically changed by the ISP provider, so, it's like ESET treated the connection as potentially harmful, and after several "resets" it continued blocking the connection, so I decided to block myself ESET and look for another AV. This happened to me with ESET Smart Security 9. Cheers, Ed Cheers, Ed MSFS2020 Steam // Rig: Corsair Graphite 760T Full Tower - ASUS MBoard Maximus XII Hero Z490 - CPU Intel i9-10900K - 64GB RAM - MSI RTX2080 Super 8GB - [1xNVMe M.2 1TB + 1xNVMe M.2 2TB (Samsung)] + [1xSSD 1TB + 1xSSD 2TB (Crucial)] + [1xSSD 1TB (Samsung)] + 1 HDD Seagate 2TB + 1 HDD Seagate External 4TB - Monitor LG 29UC97C UWHD Curved - PSU Corsair RM1000x // Thrustmaster FCS & MS XBOX Controllers
February 23, 20179 yr Moderator This happened to me with ESET Smart Security 9. I've always just used Eset NOD32 AV not the suite. Only time I had a problem was after an update when it reset my settings and started checking EVERY file on open. You can guess how the flightsim fared!! :smile: NickN ran some tests on the various Av programs a while back and showed that the Eset NOD32 had the smallest footprint and was the only one (at that time) that didn't leave hooks in your system when it was disabled. This is one of those subjects where everyone is right - I doubt there will ever be a solid favorite overall. Vic RIG#1 - I9 14900K MSI Pro z790 RTX 5070Ti 40" 4K Monitor 3840x2160
February 24, 20179 yr As another mug with a professional interest in this, I have to start from the basic truth that the only way to be safe without AV is to have the network cable unplugged. Routers get compromised (particularly those supplied in bulk by ISPs), trusted sites get hacked and start distributing malware and sometimes people just click on the wrong thing... Whilst AV (in the narrowest sense) is not a complete solution, when combined with the web filtering, on-host firewall and ransom-ware protection features that come with all but the most basic suites, it represents a no-brainer investment. The top names have already been mentioned (BitDefender & Kaspersky) though others such as Windows Defender are adequate (albeit they generally achieve lower detection rates), but the key is to have something running continually. There's no point relying entirely on running a periodic malware scan when the first thing any decent malware will do is disable common AV/AM programs. I'm running BitDefender Internet Security (1st line of defence, on access) & Hitman Pro (2nd line of defence, periodic scans only, fulfils similar role to MalwareBytes Free) and they've never had a noticeable impact on performance, especially if you exclude known safe processes from the on-access scanning. There is another option that I haven't seen mentioned, and that is moving the scanning to the network level, i.e. aiming to stop nasties between modem and your PC. This used to be the preserve of large organisations, with racks of servers and highly trained staff or expensive support contracts, often under the umbrella term of Unified Threat Management*, but is now starting to appear for the home user, the advantage being that it protects every device on a home network without having to put AV on each individual machine (although it wouldn't be a bad idea to do it anyway). The BitDefender Box (http://www.tomsguide.com/us/bitdefender-box,review-3766.html) is a good example of a (nearly) plug and play solution, although if you are technically minded, willing to get your hands dirty and have a spare old machine to dedicate to it there are a number of free (as in beer) licences available for full-on UTM solutions (e.g. Sophos UTM 9 Home, pfSense) that will give proper enterprise-grade security if properly configured. Cheers, J *Basically a fancy way of describing the combination of AV, signature based intrusion detection/prevention, firewall, web filtering and a whole other bunch of security capabilities into one box.
February 24, 20179 yr 11 hours ago, vgbaron said: I've always just used Eset NOD32 AV not the suite. Only time I had a problem was after an update when it reset my settings and started checking EVERY file on open. You can guess how the flightsim fared!! :smile: NickN ran some tests on the various Av programs a while back and showed that the Eset NOD32 had the smallest footprint and was the only one (at that time) that didn't leave hooks in your system when it was disabled. This is one of those subjects where everyone is right - I doubt there will ever be a solid favorite overall. Vic +1 Andrew Dixon"If common sense was compulsory everyone would have it but I am afraid this is not the case"
February 24, 20179 yr 11 hours ago, vgbaron said: I've always just used Eset NOD32 AV not the suite. Only time I had a problem was after an update when it reset my settings and started checking EVERY file on open. You can guess how the flightsim fared!! :smile: NickN ran some tests on the various Av programs a while back and showed that the Eset NOD32 had the smallest footprint and was the only one (at that time) that didn't leave hooks in your system when it was disabled. This is one of those subjects where everyone is right - I doubt there will ever be a solid favorite overall. Vic When I first saw this post, I immediately thought "Yep, it's that time of the year." This subject seems to come up at least once a year and we never get any definitive answers, because as Vic says, everyone is right. Everyone is going to run their system how they see fit, and everyone goes with what works for them. I totally respect people's decisions on the usage of anti-virus because for whatever reason, they believe it will help them, and that's fine. I still fall back on my original statement that in order to achieve a higher and safer level of protection, just stay away from anything suspicious and trust no one. Engage, research, inform and make your posts count! -Jim Morvay Origin EON-17SLX - Under the hood: Intel Core i7 7700K at 4.2GHz (Base) 4.6GHz (overclock), nVidia GeForce GTX-1080 Pascal w/8gb vram, 32gb (2x16) Crucial 2400mhz RAM, 3840 x 2160 17.3" IPS w/G-SYNC, Samsung 950 EVO 256GB PCIe m.2 SSD (Primary), Samsung 850 EVO 500gb M.2 (Sim Drive), MS Windows 10 Professional 64-Bit
February 24, 20179 yr I have a PC running Windows 10 64bit dedicated to Flight Sim. Running Windows defender only with relevant directories excluded. Have not had any problems but also very careful to not download anything or access any sites that are suspect. I use a Mac for all other computer work and have never run any virus protection in over 20 years of using Macs and never had a virus or malware problem. Paul Watts - St Helens, Tasmania, Australia (i7 6700K, 16Gb, GTX 1080, 50" 4K Monitor, 21" Acer touch screen, Windows 10, Prepar3d, X-Plane, ORBX, Rex (All), ActiveSky)
February 24, 20179 yr Commercial Member I see a lot of people posting here using the thinking of over 10 years ago. As several people with a professional background in this area have posted, that level of security is no longer enough to mitigate the type of risks we face online today. We can take a huge lesson from what's going on with the upcoming home/small business router firewalls which not only scan headers but the payload as well. See, state (government) sponsored Malware has been mutated by nefarious individuals and groups and is being used against home users, servers, websites, the cloud, and other targets. Even websites you know to be safe one day might not be safe tomorrow and you'll never know the difference until it's too late. I'm not talking about a fake website, I'm talking about the actual website you know and use. Friends, I'm the last to criticize, I'm only giving the best advice I know to give. My system is secure, so I have nothing whatsoever to gain by standing on a soap box. Look, history and even a number of children's tales most of us grew up are full of examples that warn us about feeling secure when situations dictate otherwise - and they certainly do in today's threat environment. Router with an active firewall and proper settings (or stand alone firewall) and a full computer security suite is what I consider to be the minimum recommended security. If you'd like to find how your current antivirus/computer security suite matches up... check out AV-TEST Labs. When reviewing the results, please remember that Antivirus software is different than a full computer security suite, an the latter covers many more threat types. My very best wishes to everyone. Dave Hodges System Specs: I9-13900KF, NVIDIA 4070TI, Quest 3, Multiple Displays, Lots of TERRIFIC friends, 3 cats, and a wonderfully stubborn wife.
February 25, 20179 yr On 2/22/2017 at 6:46 PM, Bobsk8 said: And if you forget to turn it off, it will drag your performance down like a boat anchor. No sir I have turn all AV software off when flying. A couple of time I uninstalled Eset. Thought it was the problem but it wasn't. It has been great on my pc. Maurice J I9 12900k \ EVGA 3080ti \ G-Skill 32GB \ Samsung 4K TV
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