4 hours ago, HighTowers said:

You must have very little installed then or sliders are very conservative. I can never go into those major hubs without OOM. I'll rephrase. Yes I can go into the major hubs IF I slide everything way down, and nearly no traffic. But then again whats the point? details are gone and no traffic at a major hub? Ruins the immersion. 

Finally we wont have to fiddle with this nonsense anymore. It is 2017 afterall

I'm in the "no OOM" camp with P3D, and while I don't have ALL my sliders maxed, most that are not at full right, are at the next lower setting. I use Pilot's Global Ultimate mesh, Orbx Global, Vector, and OpenLC Europe and NA. Clouds are set at 120 miles, maximum detail.

Texture size is limited at 2048.

Yesterday, I did the ultimate "stress test", flying the FSL A320 from FlyTampa EKCH to Aerosoft EGLL, using AS16 weather. I monitor VAS continuously in the taskbar via FSUIPC. 

Using the PMDG NGX at a default airport, I will usually have about 2.2 GB free VAS on load. In the flight with the FSL bird, it was down to 1.1 GB free on loading at EKCH terminal 2. It recovered to about 1.4 GB in cruise, dropping below 1.0 on approach to Heathrow. By the time I pulled into the gate, it was down to 825MB free - but still well away from the OOM zone.

My secret? NO AI at all. Aircraft, ships and road vehicles all set to zero.

Now I do understand that for many people, running with no traffic at all would be a total immersion killer, but going without does work for me.

Hopefully in V4, I'll be able bring AI into the picture

1 minute ago, JRBarrett said:

My secret? NO AI at all. Aircraft, ships and road vehicles all set to zero.

Now I do understand that for many people, running with no traffic at all would be a total immersion killer, but going without does work for me.

Hopefully in V4, I'll be able bring AI into the picture

Now that's the way to talk about VAS and performance issues - be clear about what major components you're using and which ones you're not using.  That way, we can all measure our results, knowing what's alike and what's different in our setups.

My problem has been that I've never been able to do without AI.  I hate flying in an empty world.  Plus I'm addicted to Henrik Nielsen's AI ships.  I know I could make my life easier by shutting down AI but I'm stuck with my priorities (and stuck with the consequences).

Hope you get to throw some AI into the mix in V4.  I'm hoping to be able to turn at least some of the Vector features back on - nothing crazy, just some primary roads and maybe a golf course or two... 

Let the experimentation begin!

5 hours ago, steve howlett said:

never suffered oom's .guess i'm lucky.just glad that the oom bar has been raised.hope this is the end of them as it's not impossible to oom even with 64 bit

 

 steve

 

Obviously you never push the limit and fly with lower setting. Otherwise you would have! It doesn't take much to trigger an OOM with PMDG, Orbx and a detailed airport unless like I said you compromise performance with low setting!   

The past few months I have been flying with zero AI traffic in FSX:SE. Flying long haul with the PMDG 747 to and from detailed airports was always risky. On approach I was always a bit worried that the sim would crash. Hopefully, within P3Dv4 all the addons will get a bit more breathing room.

4 hours ago, Bobsk8 said:

Never had an OOM, only time  my FPS drop a bit is flying in LA or San Francisco area with FTX regions. 

Yeah and you use low settings! We can call run at lower setting without an OOM!

The point of this post was not really to get into a VAS discussion. It was more of a symbolic reference towards starting the sim up and getting the more-detailed addons up and running together and not having to take a look nervously at Chaseplane every few minutes hoping that the VAS indicator behaved. To me, it would finally prove that we have finally progressed and left behind the 32-bit era.

Sorry if it led to disagreements along the way.

 

33 minutes ago, tamsini said:

The point of this post was not really to get into a VAS discussion. It was more of a symbolic reference towards starting the sim up and getting the more-detailed addons up and running together and not having to take a look nervously at Chaseplane every few minutes hoping that the VAS indicator behaved. To me, it would finally prove that we have finally progressed and left behind the 32-bit era.

Sorry if it led to disagreements along the way.

 

You got nothing to be sorry about! Some people have tunnel vision and get upset if you don't agree with them! It will be fantastic not having to worry about OOM. I didn't get lots but they did happen. Anyone who claims this was never an issue never pushed the sliders to the right while using high demanding scenery, weather, airport and aircraft! I can't wait for Tuesday.

I anticipate following v4 release with OOMs gone and more content run in a scene, the need for better p3d multicore use or a cpu with higher single core performance will become louder.

It puzzles me when some people say that they have never suffered an OOM. I can only assume that these flight simmers use lower detail settings, no more than a handful of complex addons at the same time, and very little AI traffic.

1 hour ago, Christopher Low said:

It puzzles me when some people say that they have never suffered an OOM. I can only assume that these flight simmers use lower detail settings, no more than a handful of complex addons at the same time, and very little AI traffic.

Never had an OOM . 

My secret : no AI car or boat traffic. And only low airport traffic. For the rest I use high to max settings.

And I use Prosim so no heavy system calculations from within P3D itself.

Add Nico's PSXseeconTraffic program to that which adds lots of aicraft traffic to make it a very realistic experience..

For everyone else with OOM issues ( read : those who are using aircraft like PMDG and Orbx Vector ) I hope those will be solved for you with P3Dv4.

 

I am a bit baffled. For years, fora were full of complaints on the OOM simulator, people not being able to complete a single flight or even take off etc. Now that LM addressed that issue, I only read "I've never experienced a single OOM" throughout.

And no, I didn't experience OOMs either, but I am only flying GA. However, I really judge improvements like the higher LOD and the autogen stretching to infinity, and more.

Kind regards, Michael

8 hours ago, petkez said:

Obviously you never push the limit and fly with lower setting. Otherwise you would have! It doesn't take much to trigger an OOM with PMDG, Orbx and a detailed airport unless like I said you compromise performance with low setting!   

Not really low settings.probably most are dense to high.i do get crashes with the NTD.dll error.this i'm pretty sure is when you push the sim too far as well .

believe me it's no badge of honour that i don't get 00m's.i feel really sorry for people that do.I've had my share of crashes after a four hour flight while on final.

anyway i've deleted prepar3d 3.2 off of my system ready for tomorrow.really looking forward to this release.

 

 steve

9 hours ago, Alan_A said:

My problem has been that I've never been able to do without AI.  I hate flying in an empty world.

Yea key point. Has to be other aircraft around like in real world.  The thing is I have disabled AI and there wasnt a big difference of VAS with it enabled or not. It affects FPS more than anything. All the scenery layers and pending airports with extra detail are what will really make a difference in VAS. 

Cant wait for this to be all and done with. 32bit flight sims can bite me. 

No matter which sim you fly always remember:

Things which do you no good in aviation:
Altitude above you.
Runway behind you.
Fuel in the truck.
A navigator.
Half a second ago.
Approach plates in the car.
The airspeed you don't have.

Going OOM is pretty simple, even on 3.2.x and up.

 

PMDG plane, ORBX Global + LC, Vector + Aerosoft Heathrow and some traffic, fly there from Munich or Frankfurt... Baaam... OOM.