steve howlett

Poppet, I'm annoyed with you

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That post was my last.it was a humorous post ,not offensive to anyone.yet you change the title

and then lock it.that's me done.

 

 steve

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Yep  found  your post(  

) was a  funny  and  good  one,  dont  know  why  it  was  locked  so quickly   and  seen  others  drag  on  for  days

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Maybe the original title was offensive to LM. Just sayin'

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Probably locked because of a bit of a misleading thread title at a point where with P3D V4 having just been released and people possibly searching for useful info etc, it might possibly cause confusion. Personally, I thought it was funny, but I can sort of understand why the possibility of it muddying the waters a bit when people are searching for useful news on the new version of P3D, it could be regarded as being a bit unhelpful.

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I've been into flight simulation for many years. I'm now at 50 yrs old. Is it me, or is Avsim turning into a Kindergarden? Recently I have come across such childish posts..I have always found the site very informative, but recently very strange. A lot of "fighting" as if we are on a kiddies games site...maybe it's just my impression..any of us more "senior" guys wish to comment? I'm a donor, but i'm amazed at the posts reflecting recently..including this thread...

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Most moderators nowadays are too trigger happy. You have to be more respectful and forgiving as your responsibility grows.

Locking a topic is like, in a conversation, telling someone to shut up. Forums are like people chatting in real life by means of computers and a server. We are not looking at people's faces, so we have to try harder to see what the other person meant in their post.

People sometimes drift in conversations (what forums refer to as offtopic) and that's normal, people DO that, but it's often seen as a reason as to lock a thread.

Modern times i guess.

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Sometimes we all say things meant humourously with no intent of malice at all.  Because we're all different - and our interpretations vary, a  public forum like Avsim is forced to moderate in a way which protects itself.  I wouldn't take it personally - it wasn't meant that way I wouldn't have thought.  We've all gaffed at some point or another.     For what it's worth, I also though the original was funny.

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13 minutes ago, Peter Webber said:

I've been into flight simulation for many years. I'm now at 50 yrs old. Is it me, or is Avsim turning into a Kindergarden? Recently I have come across such childish posts..I have always found the site very informative, but recently very strange. A lot of "fighting" as if we are on a kiddies games site...maybe it's just my impression..any of us more "senior" guys wish to comment? I'm a donor, but i'm amazed at the posts reflecting recently..including this thread...

Nope, it isn't just you, I've noticed it too. Having said that, I'm all in favour of a bit of humour, so long as it is genuinely funny, not too juvenile in nature, and in the right forum (i.e. should be in Hangar Chat really)

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1 hour ago, steve howlett said:

That post was my last.it was a humorous post ,not offensive to anyone.yet you change the title

and then lock it.that's me done.

 

 steve

Steve, there is a private message function. You don't have to make a public announcement out of your personal issues with forum moderation.

Just hover your mouse over the name of the person you want to pm and click message.

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1 minute ago, Chock said:

Nope, it isn't just you, I've noticed it too. Having said that, I'm all in favour of a bit of humour, so long as it is genuinely funny, not too juvenile in nature, and in the right forum (i.e. should be in Hangar Chat really)

thank you sir. I really value your posts and insight....always take note of your informative input. Keep it up!

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Hello,

I have moved this Topic to Hanger Chat as its more suited there 

Try and stay relevant to the Topic Title

All nice comments about me will be hidden  

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Just now, Poppet said:

All nice comments about me will be hidden  

What about the not so nice comments? ;)

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1 minute ago, Farlis said:

What about the not so nice comments? ;)

 

Hello Karsten,

There fine,  As i said lets stay on Topic 

 

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1 hour ago, Peter Webber said:

I've been into flight simulation for many years. I'm now at 50 yrs old. Is it me, or is Avsim turning into a Kindergarden? Recently I have come across such childish posts..I have always found the site very informative, but recently very strange. A lot of "fighting" as if we are on a kiddies games site...maybe it's just my impression..any of us more "senior" guys wish to comment? I'm a donor, but i'm amazed at the posts reflecting recently..including this thread...

 

+1  Spot on

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1 hour ago, Peter Webber said:

I'm now at 50 yrs old. Is it me, or is Avsim turning into a Kindergarden?

Are you sure you are 50?  Your comments certainly do not reflect your maturity.  I found your comments very offensive (and all in one post!).  Our Moderators are volunteers who dedicate some of their valuable time to try to keep the peace and moderate the forums.  Your comments do not make it easy for our volunteers to perform their duties.  Certainly I will make a mistake as well as anyone else who volunteers to help out a community but comments like yours are unwarranted.  Next time you get frustrated at one of our volunteers, take a deep breath and move on!  Let's try to keep this community respectful of others and one where we can all enjoy this great hobby of ours.

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14 minutes ago, Jim Young said:

take a deep breath and move on!

AKA Suck it up. :biggrin:

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2 hours ago, Jim Young said:

Are you sure you are 50?  Your comments certainly do not reflect your maturity.  I found your comments very offensive (and all in one post!).  Our Moderators are volunteers who dedicate some of their valuable time to try to keep the peace and moderate the forums.  Your comments do not make it easy for our volunteers to perform their duties.  Certainly I will make a mistake as well as anyone else who volunteers to help out a community but comments like yours are unwarranted.  Next time you get frustrated at one of our volunteers, take a deep breath and move on!  Let's try to keep this community respectful of others and one where we can all enjoy this great hobby of ours.

Hi...I don't think these forums are the right place to express ones ideas. I never want to get into "online fighting". I don't think you understood me. I was defending the Moderator. I was talking about the comments which were directed to the moderator which i found out of place..I don't understand your reply. I was totally in agreement with you. And I am all for the volunteers. And i have always been respectful of all members. I think a bit of misunderstanding here...What I meant is the moderators receive unfair comments. And it appeared to me it's from a younger community of ours....

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4 hours ago, Jim Young said:

Are you sure you are 50?  Your comments certainly do not reflect your maturity.  I found your comments very offensive (and all in one post!)

How the h, e, double hockey sticks does this help anyone. I get it, moderators are people too and get frustrated just like the rest of us, but if you're going to preach a standard of conduct... try not to stoke the fire.

A simple p.m. could have cleared this up.

The biggest problem with online communications, you can't inflect tone or use body language... the most important part of communicating with another person in real life.

It doesn't take long to realize there can be wildly different perspectives on any post on any subject.

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3 hours ago, Peter Webber said:

...... I don't think you understood me. I was defending the Moderator. I was talking about the comments which were directed to the moderator which i found out of place..I don't understand your reply....

I think Jim must have misunderstood you. I certainly understood you were defending the moderator and agree with your sentiment. 

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7 hours ago, Peter Webber said:

I've been into flight simulation for many years. I'm now at 50 yrs old. Is it me, or is Avsim turning into a Kindergarden? Recently I have come across such childish posts..I have always found the site very informative, but recently very strange. A lot of "fighting" as if we are on a kiddies games site...maybe it's just my impression..any of us more "senior" guys wish to comment? I'm a donor, but i'm amazed at the posts reflecting recently..including this thread...

I don't necessarily agree with you, Peter, but it's a reasonable point of view and it seems very clear that you were posting in support of the mods so I'm not sure how we ended up where we did! :huh:

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I agree.  I misinterpreted Peter's comments but posts around his, such as the next post down, indicates moderators are trigger happy and smoke started coming out of my ears.

I am still unhappy with his comments as his post can be misinterpreted and could be could be considered inciting when you use words like "Kindergarden" and "childish".  There is a lot going on here with the release of P3DV4 and FSW and I apologize for pulling the "trigger" too soon.

Best regards,

Jim

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Jim,

For the very first time since I joined AVSIM, and started reading the forum topics, I find myself disagreeing with you. I have always admired you, your comments, the help you have unselfishly handed out on so many topics and your incredible work with AVSIM.  Whilst your comment will NOT change my mind, I thought it somewhat out of place.

Please, please keep up your good work and know that you have my support

Regards

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When you are sitting around a pub chatting other things are going on like eye contact, body language, hand movement etc. When posting on here humor can get lost as the delivery method is missing those key elements, and yes it also becomes a more politically correct and sterile environment compared to one on one social interaction as what your are posting becomes a public record as soon as you hit Submit.

Some get the humor in things, some won't, mods have a tough job.....in the words of the great Rodney Dangerfield:

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I am seeing several post locked by a new mod here saying that the question was answered. The question may have been answered but I was interested in the responses and discussion about the answer. I do think too many good informative post are being closed and hope that, as an information forum AVSIM would allow such discussions. As long as a post does not stoop to name calling or personal insults why cannot they continue?

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