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Wow, so for owners who have this installed in P3D v3, can we just update to P3D v4 version by running the ops center to update it? Or does it require new installers?

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Just now, captain420 said:

Wow, so for owners who have this installed in P3D v3, can we just update to P3D v4 version by running the ops center to update it? Or does it require new installers?

You need the new installer

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Love the 747, but just can't quite justify the $135 price tag...

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AuHHHHH, My wife will kill me when she see my CC bill:ph34r:

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Won't be long now and we can see how v4 runs with actual complex addons. Should be quite interesting now.

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1 minute ago, Avidean said:

AuHHHHH, My wife will kill me when she see my CC bill:ph34r:

I just got told today that I need a budget for all of the crap I'm buying :laugh:

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Oh my god, here comes the weekend guys!
Hoang Le

THank you btw

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4 minutes ago, Avidean said:

AuHHHHH, My wife will kill me when she see my CC bill:ph34r:

Dude, I didn't buy it at initial release because I was in a XP10/11 journey and not flying P3D much at the time, but now enjoying P3Dv4 I can't resist lol.  How can one explain why I have a PMDG 737, 777 and now a 747 to the wife when I barely have time to enjoy what I have haha

Maybe we can have joint funerals?

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And doesn't she go well :biggrin:

Just doing a test flight from KDFW to KLAX (both FSDreamTeam) with Orbx Global and AS16. Sliders not a max but well over and my trusty 4770K and 780tI Sli is keeping me happy at 30 fps. Smooth as :cool:

Just loving it :biggrin::biggrin:

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5 hours ago, slait said:

Love the 747, but just can't quite justify the $135 price tag...

I paid twice for all PMDG products, you can feel how hard it is...

I mainly buy it for the 748 because 748 going to be an upgrade, not a full version.

 

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Just now, Hoang said:

I paid twice for all PMDG products, you can feel how hard it is...

I mainly buy it for the 748 because 748 going to be an upgrade, not a full version.

 

Well, we have faced an issue for some time now with our hobby. Some folks in the community literally post in these forums- and developers' forums- , that they would pay anything (anything) for XYZ product. Some developers even tested the "waters" by making some questions about pricing, and you got folks literally posting: "Dude, your product is so good that I don't care paying 3 times or more for it."

Well, those developers came along and went: "Super fantastic, let's triple the price of our products from $45..00 to over $100.00" "Hey, betterr yet, let's charge a new full price a P3D installer." 

So, there are the results.. 

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It seems that it is not possible to install the 747 for P3Dv4 as long as it is installed in P3Dv3 which is still on my PC until I some more addons are available and I do the final move.

Edit: It is necessary to uninstall from v3 first that it can be installed in both versions (v3/v4) in parallel.

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23 hours ago, Nemo said:

It seems that it is not possible to install the 747 for P3Dv4 as long as it is installed in P3Dv3 which is still on my PC until I some more addons are available and I do the final move.

Edit: It is necessary to uninstall from v3 first that it can be installed in both versions (v3/v4) in parallel.

That's good to know. Some folks will want to keep both sims. I would guess there should be no problems installing in both sims, since you paid for both.

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I have P3Dv3.4 and P3Dv4 installed.  I downloaded the 747 again, through my account, uninstalled  my earlier version (it wouldn't install otherwise), installed the newer version into P3D4, and it seems to work just fine.  I also have the FSUIPC v5 installed, and have no problems there.

 

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There is no problem using them in both sims, it is just that you need to UNINSTALL FIRST THE V3, redownload the latest installer and reinstall to BOTH sims.

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On 6/4/2017 at 8:10 AM, joemiller said:

Well, we have faced an issue for some time now with our hobby. Some folks in the community literally post in these forums- and developers' forums- , that they would pay anything (anything) for XYZ product. Some developers even tested the "waters" by making some questions about pricing, and you got folks literally posting: "Dude, your product is so good that I don't care paying 3 times or more for it."

Well, those developers came along and went: "Super fantastic, let's triple the price of our products from $45..00 to over $100.00" "Hey, betterr yet, let's charge a new full price a P3D installer."

So, there are the results.. 

*sigh*

Why do people insist on whining, badgering, complaining (user other adjectives, if you like) regarding this?! It's been asked and answered SO many times in here, that it's sickening to being brought up again and again. Mostly because you can't do ANYTHING about it. If you think PMDG, FSLabs or other companies which utilize this pricing policy is SO unfair - the solution is simple. Don't purchase their addons.

How PMDG sets their pricing is an internal matter, and to be frank shouldn't be discussed here or anywhere else! I seriously doubt it have ANYTHING to do with users expressing that they're willing to pay triple pricing. Besides, PMDG has already explained the reason(s) behind the increased pricing for their addons and one of the reasons was, so you could have a FREE upgrade to their 64-bit installers. It's SO tiring of people expressing their own frustration and opinions as facts - especially when they're projecting the reasons of their frustrations to the actions of 3rd parties, which they - in reality - haven't gotten a clue about. 

Personally I think it's really unfair towards the developers when opinions like this is displayed. Most customers have absolutely NO IDEA how much work goes into creating an serious in-depth airliner like the one PMDG has pulled off multiple times. I mean, just watch the Airline2Sim 777 Cadet training to just get an inkling of just how in-depth this simulation is. It's a simulator in itself! 

I'm terribly sorry, people! Rant off! But I just get SO frustrated AND a little sad when reading these posts. Mainly because they seem to be reflecting an opinion, which keeps popping now and then. It isn't fair towards neither developers or customers alike. The simple thing is, that these posts have a tendency to generalize a sentiment, which up I really hope isn't dominant in the community....  

Again - sorry people! ... I just felt something needed to be said... 

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23 minutes ago, Anders Bermann said:

*sigh*

Why do people insist on whining, badgering, complaining (user other adjectives, if you like) regarding this?! It's been asked and answered SO many times in here, that it's sickening to being brought up again and again. Mostly because you can't do ANYTHING about it. If you think PMDG, FSLabs or other companies which utilize this pricing policy is SO unfair - the solution is simple. Don't purchase their addons.

How PMDG sets their pricing is an internal matter, and to be frank shouldn't be discussed here or anywhere else! I seriously doubt it have ANYTHING to do with users expressing that they're willing to pay triple pricing. Besides, PMDG has already explained the reason(s) behind the increased pricing for their addons and one of the reasons was, so you could have a FREE upgrade to their 64-bit installers. It's SO tiring of people expressing their own frustration and opinions as facts - especially when they're projecting the reasons of their frustrations to the actions of 3rd parties, which they - in reality - haven't gotten a clue about. 

Personally I think it's really unfair towards the developers when opinions like this is displayed. Most customers have absolutely NO IDEA how much work goes into creating an serious in-depth airliner like the one PMDG has pulled off multiple times. I mean, just watch the Airline2Sim 777 Cadet training to just get an inkling of just how in-depth this simulation is. It's a simulator in itself! 

I'm terribly sorry, people! Rant off! But I just get SO frustrated AND a little sad when reading these posts. Mainly because they seem to be reflecting an opinion, which keeps popping now and then. It isn't fair towards neither developers or customers alike. The simple thing is, that these posts have a tendency to generalize a sentiment, which up I really hope isn't dominant in the community....  

Again - sorry people! ... I just felt something needed to be said... 

Anders, we all have different views and opinions. The post never referenced any specific developer(s). It simply pointed out something that is true (not false). But, again.. you might be perfectly fine with such practice, but others might not. People will give their opinions. Is it necessary to be upset? No, no need to.

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44 minutes ago, joemiller said:

Anders, we all have different views and opinions. The post never referenced any specific developer(s). It simply pointed out something that is true (not false). But, again.. you might be perfectly fine with such practice, but others might not. People will give their opinions. Is it necessary to be upset? No, no need to.

First of all - I never attacked or criticized your right (and privilege) to express your opinion and view. I simply pointed out, that with regards to matter of pricing, the point is mute, so to speak. The pricing is set internally and isn't reflected on some greedy will, to suck money out of their customers.

Second - your facts may be true, but your projecting your frustration of set policy and justifying it, with above mentioned reason, is simply unfair towards the developers. As already mentioned, PMDG has already explained their reason for differentiating in pricing with their product line... if you don't like that - don't support them and purchase their products! The same goes for FSLabs and other developers who's using this method of pricing. Personally I think it's fair - to be frank, I think both FSX and Prepar3D version should be $135. But to iterate, that's not for me (or anyone else to decide!). It's solely for PMDG, FSLabs etc, to decide!

Anyway - I won't go into a long (and tiring) debate regarding this with you. No one deserves that... My original post was means as a counter-point and comment on these views regarding 'unfair and greedy pricing' from developers.  

The reason I mentioned PMDG is because you're currently posting on the Support Forum of PMDG. Where you also have to respect their rules regarding full names on all your posts in the signature (which you currently don't). 

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16 minutes ago, Anders Bermann said:

First of all - I never attacked or criticized your right (and privilege) to express your opinion and view. I simply pointed out, that with regards to matter of pricing, the point is mute, so to speak. The pricing is set internally and isn't reflected on some greedy will, to suck money out of their customers.

Second - your facts may be true, but your projecting your frustration of set policy and justifying it, with above mentioned reason, is simply unfair towards the developers. As already mentioned, PMDG has already explained their reason for differentiating in pricing with their product line... if you don't like that - don't support them and purchase their products! The same goes for FSLabs and other developers who's using this method of pricing. Personally I think it's fair - to be frank, I think both FSX and Prepar3D version should be $135. But to iterate, that's not for me (or anyone else to decide!). It's solely for PMDG, FSLabs etc, to decide!

Anyway - I won't go into a long (and tiring) debate regarding this with you. No one deserves that... My original post was means as a counter-point and comment on these views regarding 'unfair and greedy pricing' from developers.  

The reason I mentioned PMDG is because you're currently posting on the Support Forum of PMDG. Where you also have to respect their rules regarding full names on all your posts in the signature (which you currently don't). 

Please get well

Good luck!

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