No problems here. I find it flies much like the real thing. Just slightly lift the nose approaching 80 and let her fly off the runway. She'll be steady as a rock unless you try to lift her off - that will cause you problems. Small, subtle control inputs and you'll be a happy camper.

 

Vic

Hi Folks,

Thanks for the additional input and I’m glad I’m not alone - wish I had some of you guys testing with me when I was reporting the Skylane issues... It seems like a bunch of us are having some real issues with the FDE... When I get in - I’ll run the updates and try some more takeoffs with and without wind - some power on and power off stalls - although I strongly suspect my results will match those reported here...

Greg,

Thanks for relaying the additional info from A2A...

Regards,

Scott

 

6 hours ago, vgbaron said:

No problems here. I find it flies much like the real thing. Just slightly lift the nose approaching 80 and let her fly off the runway. She'll be steady as a rock unless you try to lift her off - that will cause you problems. Small, subtle control inputs and you'll be a happy camper.

 

Vic

Vic,

You are absolutely correct. That 80 is critical. I let it lift off too early this morning and it was not pretty! Reloaded and as the nose started to come up on her own, I just applied a small amount of forward pressure on the yoke until she reached 80 and then just relaxed the forward pressure and she lifted off like an angel. Next flight I will try a couple of degrees of nose down on the trim and see if that works. She really requires a soft touch on all control surfaces.

 

Lyn

After checking the stalls, I could see the problem not only in the simulator but in the underlying physics, specifically the area that affects the wing stability after the stall.  We had this working perfectly but can see when this changed during development.  The good news is I not only found and fixed this but while doing so, was able to make things even better than before.

What I'm seeing now is a really nice reproduction of how this airplane feels in departed flight.  You can control the wing drop with the elevator pressure, and just do a normal recovery, or if you are not paying attention and don't release the yoke, you will see a sharp wing drop (which is as it should be) which is also fairly easy to recover from with the correct control inputs.  I'll shoot some heavy cross wind landings later this afternoon as well.  We'll get this and any other things we're working on to testers to chew on next week and get another update out as soon as we can.

Thanks everyone for the feedback.

Scott

Hi Scott,

Great news and thanks for looking !!!

Regards,

Scott

Thank you for the fast feedback Scott.  Love the A2A aircraft! 

 

Bill

I haven’t bought this yet but I will, a big part of the reason is the great two way communication and responsiveness on the part of the developer.  Plus it sounds like an awesome aircraft 😀

Looking forward to the update. This is still a fantastic bird. I just love it!

Has anyone noticed that it is impossible to tune the middle number on the NDB?   The tuner has an inner and outer knob, one does the first number of the frequency, the other does the last, but only counts up to 9. 

 

 

Hello Neil,

The inner tuning knob on the KR 87 ADF set is a two position control. Simply click the switch to push it in to adjust the middle digit. Another click returns it to the original position to change the last digit.

Thanks,
Nick

19 hours ago, 757FO said:

Have you all tried stalls (power on or off)? I've never stalled a V tail IRL, but as a Mooney owner, I can tell you the stalls behavior on the M20 is normal (Power off might be a bit more tricky, and most of the time a bit of wing drop is expected), with the A2A model, I will end up spinning the plane most of the time (even though I kept the plane coordinated and no sudden input on the controls).. There are a lot of differences between a Mooney and Bonanza IRL, but I would expect stall behavior to be normal in a Bonanza, and not end up in spin entry when practicing  staills (power on or off), I would like to hear what others are seeing, thx!

I just did some testing, John.  Rather close to standard conditions... 6000' (I'm not chicken... I'm cautious 😋) 29.93/56F and light wind.  First tried with the airplane rather light... pilot and 10-12 gallons per side.  First went to 15"/2500 and the airplane was very docile.  Stall was soft, and the only way a wing dropped is if I aileroned in to.  Then tried 12"/2300  and things started happening!  The right wing would always drop, and the aircraft spun.  Recovery was rather easy... neutral pitch and aileron, counter rudder.  Increasing power did nothing for me.  I then loaded the tanks and put 4 adults in the airplane.  Naturally, stall speed was higher (about 5-8 knots as I recollect).  Again 15"/2500 was not bad at all... the airplane only dropped a wing if I added ailerons.  12"/2300 resulted in the same flight dynamics as when I was loaded lightly, only the airplane snapped to the right quicker and took longer to recover.  Again, recovery was the same... basically centering the stick and opposite rudder.  Lightly loaded I could recover in as little 500'; the best I could do heavily loaded was just short of 1000', but of the 5 spins I did heavy most took closer to 1500' to recover... and of course my recovery speed was higher.  I fly with the IO-550 but the engine had little to do with the airplane spinning or recovery.  At the higher power setting it seemed to hang on the prop much better (not surprising)... I would be surprised if it performed differently with the smaller engine

Hope this helps... I do find it curious how we all seem to be spinning to the right.  It's almost as if we all got the same airplane. 😲

Greg

23 hours ago, regis9 said:

I haven’t bought this yet but I will, a big part of the reason is the great two way communication and responsiveness on the part of the developer.  Plus it sounds like an awesome aircraft 😀

If you have not bought it yet,,,your missing out on one of the best 🙂

Version 18.9.29.0 is now available.  Change log and update process here: https://a2asimulations.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=139&t=65531

I've shot a few RNAV GPS LPV and LNAV approaches and the autopilot easily flies the approach w/ glideslope as driven by my F1 GTN (I don't own any GNS offerings but no reason they wouldn't work perfectly as well).  Easy peasy!  The other fixes/changes are appreciated too.  Thanks A2A!!

Greg

Flight model much more realistic after the update in regards to stalls, a pleasure to fly (wish I could afford the real thing haha)

John