The best traffic and ATC combo?

[Thomasso 224]

Hi, 

I've been flying offline for quite a long time, but the empty world is becoming a little boring for me.

I definitely want to buy the Ultimate Traffic Live, as it looks like the best traffic add-on currently available. 

But I feel like only a traffic add-on won't be very useful because I will have no idea about the surrounding traffic (no ATC). So I want an ATC software that will control the UTL traffic. 

What is the best combo for P3D 4.5 at the moment? 

Thanks, Tomas 

[Sethos 4,299]

3 minutes ago, Thomasso said:

I definitely want to buy the Ultimate Traffic Live, as it looks like the best traffic add-on currently available. 

Please don't, waste of money with their abysmal support.

Check this out;

It's free and far superior.

 

[Dave_YVR 968]

UTL is the best traffic program that you can currently throw money at to get marginal AI, but it's nowhere near to what you can have with AIG's AIM for free. 

[Gandalf 45]

Hi

I would definitely second AIG for traffic, but in my opinion there unfortunately  isn’t really a good ATC programme that does all that is required. 

Regards

G

[Clutch Cargo 384]

I second the use for AIG! 😉

[DaveCT2003 1,820]

I'm thoroughly enjoying flying with PSXseeconTraffic, and Lorby has a nice one as well (Lorby Live Traffic).

Aircraft you see are their real world counterparts, flying the actual routes including SIDs and STARs.  Liveries are courtesy of FLAI (which are outstanding).  I also fly on VATSIM.

There are a few things in development to improve all this, but i wouldn't look for any of the to mature to Beta Stages for a couple of years (please don't ask, I can't say anything else).

Best wishes!

 

[Thomasso 224]

Huh, I had no idea about the freeware option. Thanks guys, I'll definitely look into it! 🙂

So there is no viable ATC software compatible with that? So how do you know that you can land or takeoff if the ai isn't controlled? How do you avoid an airplane entering the runway when you're on final? 

[SoJourned 65]

PROATC works fine with UTL. Ive never heard of AIG either but I may check it out to see if PROATC works with that.

[kiek 1,212]

34 minutes ago, Thomasso said:

So there is no viable ATC software compatible with that? So how do you know that you can land or takeoff if the ai isn't controlled? How do you avoid an airplane entering the runway when you're on final? 

In case of PSXseeconTraffic you don't need an ATC software package and would not even work. The AI is controlled by real live ATC! In some countries you can listen to live ATC in real time as well.

If you take the place of a real live aircraft in the queue for landing (the block call sign option in PSXseeconTraffic), the real live traffic controller will not let an aircraft enter the runway until you have landed.

Nico Kaan

developer of PSXseeconTraffic

Edited May 19, 2019 by kiek

[Thomasso 224]

So I have downloaded the AIG just now and I am a bit confused. I have no idea what to do. Is there some kind of a manual for the installation? Where are the plane models, repaints, schedules?

Thank you for the advice 🙂

[Nemo 1,305]

You run the AI Manager (current version is 0.9.0.3). After settings are completed click "Online" then "Available Online" choose a prominent "Airline" (of your favorite airport) within "Not Installed" and the AI Manager will do the rest: Installs the fllght plans/traffic.bgl and all necessary aircraft models  (with  several variations of the chosen airline). It also places an add-on.xml which activate airplanes and traffic. Repeat for each airline you want to see. Nothing easier than that, when you get used to it.

[Thomasso 224]

Just now, Nemo said:

You run the AI Manager (current version is 0.9.0.3). After settings are completed click "Online" then "Available Online" choose a prominent "Airline" (of your favorite airport) within "Not Installed" and the AI Manager will do the rest: Installs the fllght plans/traffic.bgl and all necessary aircraft models  (with  several variations of the chosen airline). It also places an add-on.xml which activate airplanes and traffic. Repeat for each airline you want to see. Nothing easier than that, when you get used to it.

Thanks Harry, seems easy enough 🙂.  I am just watching this video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rWe3A3mZQ_s

What is the role of the FLAi models?

 

[Gandalf 45]

1 minute ago, Thomasso said:

Thanks Harry, seems easy enough 🙂.  I am just watching this video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rWe3A3mZQ_s

What is the role of the FLAi models?

 

You don’t need models, paints etc the program downloads and installs everything for you. I would recommend using the OCI option. You can select as many airlines as you wish and use the bulk download facility.

Hoe that’s helpful, plenty of advice etc on the AIG forum

Regards

G

[Nemo 1,305]

Just now, Thomasso said:

Thanks Harry, seems easy enough 🙂.  I am just watching this video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rWe3A3mZQ_s

What is the role of the FLAi models?

 

You don't need FLAI for the AIG-OCI method. FLAI mainly contains the same models/liveries but no flight plans/traffic files and rather brings confusion and error message (because of same a/c)

[Ray Proudfoot 8,927]

AIG for the aircraft and Radar Contact v4 for ATC. Both free although I made a decent donation to AIG.

As for the person who said there’s no viable ATC program have you any idea how hard it is to write one? 🙄 I’ve been using RC4 for 13 years and it still does a bloody good job.