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AS airbus goes into A-floor

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Every time about 10 mins after T.O. my AS airbus, drops speed, horn on, descends while he goes in to A-floor protection...

No orange warnings, flaps, airbrakes, gear, OK. When doing the same flight with FS Labs airbus: none of these problems !

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Unfortunately this is a known bug with the Aerosoft bus, the reason why I have definitely uninstalled it from my computer after desperately waiting for a fix.
The issue is that this problem is not well identified and it only impacts a few users.

Sorry to say that but my single advice would be to forget this product and enjoy your so nice FS Labs one 🙂

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Sorry to hear its a known bug, i will contact AS as i payed a lot for the versions of airbusses the latest years...

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I never experienced that with the AS airbus. Could it be cabin pressure?

Peter

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53 minutes ago, qqwertzde said:

I never experienced that with the AS airbus...

Neither have I, and given that it seems to impact only a very small number of people, OP may have little choice but to shelve it unless he can get a solution from AS.

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I have also have had the same problem with A-Floor, and I couldn't find a solution for it, so my airbusses are also put on the shelf. I have NO expectation of Aerosoft fixing it, cause they tend to ignore it when people critiqe their products, Even though I have bought every one of their Airbus series from FSX to the recent ones, I won't buy anything more from them. I'm looking more and more at the FsLabs, but my system isn't good enogh to run it smoothly, and the price tag also keeps me from getting it. Maybe when I upgrade my PC, I may have another opinion on it.

 

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7 hours ago, Pluto7777 said:

Every time about 10 mins after T.O. my AS airbus, drops speed, horn on, descends while he goes in to A-floor protection...

No orange warnings, flaps, airbrakes, gear, OK. When doing the same flight with FS Labs airbus: none of these problems !

I can concur that this is indeed a problem, one that I have encountered on a number of occasions.

However, after following some possible 'workarounds' here, "...My Observation is not to activate the ap before reaching the ACC ALT and setting climb thrust.", I now get no issues. 

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Me too, I had occasionally that A-floor problem. Not sure though if I did a mistake or if it is a bug as I am new to Airbus.

It is amazing that after so many versions of Airbus Aerosoft have not fixed yet that king of bug?

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according to dave.  he believes only 13 people had this problem, as only 13 people reported it on the aerosoft forum. 

so therefore the product is fantastic and it must be something wrong at your end.

what a crock of rubbish, but that is the spin they want you to believe. 

 

best wishes to all 

 

 

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I see they locked your post over there.

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The life of aircraft addon developers is not always easy, I admit.

However, from a user standpoint, it's really hard to hear things like: you are the only one (few) with that problem, something is wrong with you... with no other assistance...

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On 6/16/2019 at 10:52 AM, garydpoole said:

I can concur that this is indeed a problem, one that I have encountered on a number of occasions.

However, after following some possible 'workarounds' here, "...My Observation is not to activate the ap before reaching the ACC ALT and setting climb thrust.", I now get no issues. 

I believe I have never had an issue, but I also think that the above is exactly what I tend to do. After takeoff I tend to manually fly onto the right course and then turn on the A/P. Can't confirm that's what I always do though.

For me the Aerosoft Airbus has almost always behaved without any issues. The times I had a problem, it was always my fault. That said, this A-floor problem sounds like a bug to me... if the user does everything by the book, there is no reason why it should be the user's fault.

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16 hours ago, Benjamin J said:

I believe I have never had an issue, but I also think that the above is exactly what I tend to do. After takeoff I tend to manually fly onto the right course and then turn on the A/P. Can't confirm that's what I always do though.

For me the Aerosoft Airbus has almost always behaved without any issues. The times I had a problem, it was always my fault. That said, this A-floor problem sounds like a bug to me... if the user does everything by the book, there is no reason why it should be the user's fault.

I feel the same.

On 6/16/2019 at 5:52 PM, garydpoole said:

I can concur that this is indeed a problem, one that I have encountered on a number of occasions.

However, after following some possible 'workarounds' here, "...My Observation is not to activate the ap before reaching the ACC ALT and setting climb thrust.", I now get no issues. 

That's how all my A-Floor(s) ever occured both with AS A320 and FF A320U in XP11 and that's exactly how I cured them.

But it's not like 10 mins into a flight like the OP says there.

Dirk.

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23 hours ago, Simicro said:

The life of aircraft addon developers is not always easy, I admit.

However, from a user standpoint, it's really hard to hear things like: you are the only one (few) with that problem, something is wrong with you... with no other assistance...

As I said before its a very brave business owner that will openly admit their product is cheap and cheerful. 

As always 

Cheeseburger vs 5 guys

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With the Aerosoft a-320, I did have a couple experiences with the aircraft seeming to lose power and then going into A-floor.  For me, this would happen shortly after I changed my throttle quadrant settings for the two engines from TOGA mode to climb mode.

What I found is that if I see this starting to occur, all I do is move the throttle quadrants briefly to idle, and then reset them into climb mode. The aircraft will then recover and resume climbing normally. In my case, it seems that the throttle quadrant does not always hit the detents correctly when I first attempt to enter climb mode. But finagling the throttle and resetting it in climb mode will fix the issue for me.

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I wonder why my complaint on the AS forum about this issue , was closed for further comment about 30 minutes after sending my question ????  Suggested was help via PM...

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Because they only want rainbows, unicorns, and happy thoughts over there.

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so you get that at cruise after 20mins, just like me? Then it's the same issue. a common bug where the fbw will bug when the autogen loads in the distance and your 0.1% fps go to under 10. it makes the plane go up and down like a rodeo with no valid reason. then it stalls. if you stay in front of the pc you can take manual control. if you don't it will trim up till it stalls. also at some point another bug sets your managed speed at cruise to 122 ias, which will make you stall too

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1 hour ago, LH340fan said:

so you get that at cruise after 20mins, just like me? Then it's the same issue. a common bug where the fbw will bug when the autogen loads in the distance and your 0.1% fps go to under 10. it makes the plane go up and down like a rodeo with no valid reason. then it stalls. if you stay in front of the pc you can take manual control. if you don't it will trim up till it stalls. also at some point another bug sets your managed speed at cruise to 122 ias, which will make you stall too

Yup, that's about the long and short of it. As much as I still enjoy the AS Airbus, you're taking a real chance leaving the 'cockpit' to use the bathroom... 

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20 hours ago, Greggy_D said:

Because they only want rainbows, unicorns, and happy thoughts over there.

Where's is "best wishes dave'?? 

he's told you numerous times its only 13 people who have this issues so you must be wrong, aerosoft software is perfect and you must be trolling. 

Failing that the topic will be closed.  I'm sure he's busy now emailing the mods to get this one closed too. 

 

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1 hour ago, garydpoole said:

Yup, that's about the long and short of it. As much as I still enjoy the AS Airbus, you're taking a real chance leaving the 'cockpit' to use the bathroom... 

true, cuz your "copilot" might just shut down completely out of a sudden too

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2 hours ago, fluffyflops said:

Where's is "best wishes dave'?? 

he's told you numerous times its only 13 people who have this issues so you must be wrong, aerosoft software is perfect and you must be trolling. 

Failing that the topic will be closed.  I'm sure he's busy now emailing the mods to get this one closed too. 

 

Being fair to AS, I've never complained about the issue, so I can't be counted in the '13'. However, their forum can be pretty intimidating and unless you've "dotted every i and crossed every t', when posting,  you'll be hit with serious 'Airbus speak" to the point of submission.

But notwithstanding, the plane is still enjoyable to fly and for me, it does do the job nicely. 

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13 minutes ago, garydpoole said:

But notwithstanding, the plane is still enjoyable to fly and for me, it does do the job nicely.

I agree the AS A320 is my go to airliner as well and is very enjoyable to fly and meets the balance of needs I have. I love reading and contributing to the Avsim forum regularly and wish we could leave the repeated bashing of this aircraft out, it serves no real useful purpose. For what’s its worth my inquiries on their forum have always been fruitful and my suggestions taken seriously.

Just another perspective for those interested in an aircraft I would not be without.

Joe

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I absolutely agree to the two statements before, not to forget the framerates, which are much better.. 

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