Microsoft, look at this lights. 

Spoiler

 

 

14 hours ago, MatthewS said:

Yep, the FS2020 night lighting is very disappointing when compared to XP11. 

Seems to be another MS failure to actually make progress over FSX/P3D... I suspect the FS2020 engine is just FSX with improvements.

Why? No sloped runways, poor night lighting....

Good grief... it's going to be a long year...

17 hours ago, MatthewS said:

Yep, the FS2020 night lighting is very disappointing when compared to XP11. 

Seems to be another MS failure to actually make progress over FSX/P3D... I suspect the FS2020 engine is just FSX with improvements.

Why? No sloped runways, poor night lighting....

From the ground up FSX and X-Plane are very different and it just so happens that X-Plane can produce more realistic global lighting. So if people were under any illusions that Microsoft have started from scratch with MSFS then now you know...

However I can see clear improvements already and so long as Microsoft are committed to ensure the fidelity and visuals are the best they can make them then I'll be happy with whatever they produce because the bar has gone several times higher than I would have expected for a new MSFS release.

On 8/18/2019 at 2:08 PM, Baber20 said:

Agreed. Xp night lighting is far from perfect. People who think its good havent flown at night. 

I've flown at night somewhat often and I think XP11 NL is pretty great!  You need to get the new freeware enhanced pack at The Org.

18 minutes ago, ryanbatcund said:

I've flown at night somewhat often and I think XP11 NL is pretty great!

For me it's the "bloom" that makes XP night lighing look better.  FS2020 is just plain looking.

I would like to see some custom illumination on buildings. For example. now KLAX is completely dark, but this is how it looks in real life at night  (video from other topic). Well, this applied to the world is something I would like to see...

 

@MatthewS  Is there anything at all about MSFS that you do like? It seems every topic in this forum raises you level of negativity.

 

28 minutes ago, 188AHC said:

Is there anything at all about MSFS that you do like? It seems every topic in this forum raises you level of negativity.

Sorry but what negativity?

I don't think FS2020 has sloped runways, I think XP has better night lighting, I think FS2020 is based on old code base and not a rewrite from scratch.

How is any of that negative?

edit:  I'm really liking the weather and Azure scenery streaming

Edited August 20, 20196 yr by MatthewS
added what I like.

27 minutes ago, MatthewS said:

Sorry but what negativity?

I don't think FS2020 has sloped runways, I think XP has better night lighting, I think FS2020 is based on old code base and not a rewrite from scratch.

How is any of that negative?

Yes they must be super intelligent to use a 15 year old code that runs like garbage on current high end systems and then port it over to xbox so that It can run at 5 fps. You are severely underestimating the Msfs dev team here.

1 minute ago, Baber20 said:

Yes they must be super intelligent to use a 15 year old code that runs like garbage on current high end systems and then port it over to xbox so that It can run at 5 fps. You are severely underestimating the Msfs dev team here.

Lets hope so... But the main reason I think their code is based on FSW/FSX is the way the airports are rendered at night, looks identical to FSX.  Honestly if it was completely new code base I would expect the airports to look quite different.

13 minutes ago, MatthewS said:

Lets hope so... But the main reason I think their code is based on FSW/FSX is the way the airports are rendered at night, looks identical to FSX.  Honestly if it was completely new code base I would expect the airports to look quite different.

Look the last caravan 3 seconds mini-clip they posted on their homepage. The lights are blured by the AO, but I can tell they are nothing like FSW/FSX/P3D lights.

https://cdn.microsoftstudios.com/fsi/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/GrandCaravanEXFlaps.mp4?_=1

On 8/18/2019 at 9:12 AM, 767lover said:

So far, like everybody else, I am extremely impressed and overjoyed by the upcoming MSFS.

But I am not that thrilled with what I am seeing of the ground night lighting; city lights in particular. Like in previous iterations, it seems faint. They have also not shown too much of it yet, suggesting they may still be working on it. Dusk and night sky effects so far look nothing short of spectacular. I am hoping that night lighting on the ground will be equally as impressive. 

To me, xplane 11 offers the best night lighting, in particular streets. 

The title of this should read "Night lighting not so spectacular YET"

1 hour ago, rjetster1 said:

The title of this should read "Night lighting not so spectacular YET"

That XP11 screen shot does look good... but what is it that makes it so?  The lights seem to have more "bloom" and be "hdr"?

I agree with @aleex it would look fantastic if the night lighting had some random ads coloring the landscape, especially in cities. Some blue, green, red lights in addition of the yellow and white from the default city ones. The intensity of each one shouldn t be the same to add immersion.

Edited August 21, 20196 yr by Noooch

5 hours ago, Noooch said:

I agree with @aleex it would look fantastic if the night lighting had some random ads coloring the landscape, especially in cities. Some blue, green, red lights in addition of the yellow and white from the default city ones. The intensity of each one shouldn t be the same to add immersion.

Is it possible that in all flight simulations only street lights serve as lighting?

Then it would be logical for me that the night shows "without life". Many different colors and different intensity would be necessary.

But that would be a huge effort.

Are satellite Data at night available?

Edited August 21, 20196 yr by Pitbull2504