I for the love of God really hope that all this bickering about FS20 being built on a 13y old engine is just an outrageous speculation.

Edited August 20, 20196 yr by CarlosF

1 hour ago, MatthewS said:

Yes OFC.  My conclusions are based on the available evidence. If you have evidence that challenges my conclusion then what is it? I'm happy to be proven wrong. At the moment I'm not seeing anything that makes me want to change my mind.

There is no evidence. Those pics might just be prelim teasers. Why don't you let us get a bit further down the road with this before you make such claims?  You are basing all your "evidence" on what everyone sees and it seems you are alone with your convictions. I think you are a pretty smart fellow so don't get so wound up in absolutes when there aren't any at this time.

 

5 hours ago, MatthewS said:

Looks like FSX (and FSW) to me.  If it was a new engine we could expect quite different looking runways.

https://ibb.co/6nMpSMg

It makes sense that MS are reusing old code and not reinventing the wheel. 

Haha your assumptions about the code are based on a shot of runways at night at 500 feet 🙈   But even that looks much better and doesn't have the Papi lights the size of red cars!

18 minutes ago, Noooch said:

MSFS: " We are not building on, but building from "

What else do you need?

The full quote is

Quote

 

That passion, investment, and appreciation must be recognized and reflected in our commitment to carry the Microsoft Flight Simulator franchise into the next generation. We are not building on, but building from, the product and history that is Microsoft Flight Simulator X.

Today, with a bit of bittersweet sentiment, we say “Welcome Home” to an old friend.

More on our FSX plans coming soon…

 

So what exactly are they talking about? Not FS2020 it seems but FSX.

But anyway, I really hope FS2020 is substantively new code that addresses the limitations of FSX and moves the hobby forward in leaps and bounds.

 

Edited August 21, 20196 yr by MatthewS

Same sentence, i understand it completely different.
it's a way of keeping "simmers" calm saying it will be a flight simulator like we are used to, with global scenery, ai aircraft etc etc

Especially the fact they are not building it ON FSX but based on what FSX offerend (feature wise, not technology wise). That's how i see it

4 hours ago, france89 said:

Especially the fact they are not building it ON FSX but based on what FSX offerend (feature wise, not technology wise). That's how i see it

Yeah I guess...  but what are they talking about with "More on our FSX plans coming soon"? Do they mean they are also going to keep supporting (and maybe developing) FSX too?  If so, that's really confusing for the market IMO.

 

3 minutes ago, MatthewS said:

Yeah I guess...  but what are they talking about with "More on our FSX plans coming soon"? Do they mean they are also going to keep supporting (and maybe developing) FSX too?  If so, that's really confusing for the market IMO.

 

I think it would be confusing for people who want it to be confusing. FSX needs some basic improvements that should have been implemented a long time ago. Doesn't mean FSX would be on par with FS2020. 

 

5 hours ago, MatthewS said:

The full quote is

So what exactly are they talking about? Not FS2020 it seems but FSX.

But anyway, I really hope FS2020 is substantively new code that addresses the limitations of FSX and moves the hobby forward in leaps and bounds.

 

Why are you so hell bent on trying to prove unfavorable outcomes even when there's plenty of evidence showing otherwise? You pasted more of the quote but it added nothing to what you've been trying to prove. I can see why some people think you're a troll. Just chill.

6 hours ago, Noooch said:

MSFS: " We are not building on, but building from "

What else do you need?

Nothing, this proves I'm right, they ain't building On FSX. It's a whole new product.

44 minutes ago, MatthewS said:

Yeah I guess...  but what are they talking about with "More on our FSX plans coming soon"? Do they mean they are also going to keep supporting (and maybe developing) FSX too?  If so, that's really confusing for the market IMO.

 

"Going forward, Microsoft will take over support of Flight Simulator X and we look forward to sharing our next steps with the community in the very near future."

The important part being "take over support", not "take over development".

48 minutes ago, MatthewS said:

Yeah I guess...  but what are they talking about with "More on our FSX plans coming soon"? Do they mean they are also going to keep supporting (and maybe developing) FSX too?  If so, that's really confusing for the market IMO.

 

Just keep in mind that FSX engine is written in 32 bit code, that itself should set aside any confusion.

11 minutes ago, Greazer said:

Nothing, this proves I'm right, they ain't building On FSX. It's a whole new product.

Yeah, I just wasn't talking to you.

57 minutes ago, CarlosF said:

Just keep in mind that FSX engine is written in 32 bit code, that itself should set aside any confusion.

Prepar3dV4, MS flight and FSW where all built on a FSX 32 bit code and converted to 64 bit.

 

Edited August 21, 20196 yr by Adrian123

32bit or 64bit, regardless the FSX/ESP engine is build on a hardware ideology from 2006. That is why performance is bad on FSX/ESP, that will not change with an updated engine. If MS is serious about MSF they will start over with a new engine otherwise don’t bother.

Imagine adding ray tracing on the ESP platform, performance would tank, even with a 2080Ti because the game engine is still CPU bound.

1 hour ago, Adrian123 said:

Prepar3dV4, MS flight and FSW where all built on a FSX 32 bit code and converted to 64 bit.

So, what's your point?

Edited August 21, 20196 yr by CarlosF

2 hours ago, france89 said:

"Going forward, Microsoft will take over support of Flight Simulator X and we look forward to sharing our next steps with the community in the very near future."

The important part being "take over support", not "take over development".

What support. There hasn't been a patch in about 12 years and people have move on anyway.