September 8, 20196 yr I've installed the new KATL version. First I used it with P3dv4.4, and yesterday I updated to P3d4.5. Things haven't changed I'm afraid. On approach Rwy 26L to KATL I usually get 2 CTDs. The first when I'm near the airport flying the left downwind leg at about 8000ft, the next when I'm facing the airport at about 3000ft. Before I did e.g. a flight from KATL to KMSY (maddog, LatinVFR) or KATL to KLAS (CS757, Flytampa) without any problems. The CTDs only occur flying back on approach to KATL. Does anyone have the same problems? Do you have any suggestions what could be done about it? My system is quite good: Intel 5ghz, nvidia 1080 GTX; so I don't usually have any problems at all. Thanks for your advice. Chris Kuehne Edited September 8, 20196 yr by Christoph4445
September 9, 20196 yr Had the same problem i can take of but can t land without cdt try to reinstall it, i did it but had no time to test Frédéric Giraud
September 9, 20196 yr Well, I will never buy anything anymore from ImagineSim unless it is the sole and only scenery for a place I absolutely want (such as Singapore currently is...). Why? Support is absolute below par compared to any other addon developer, things never get fixed. Does not help you, I know, but just that you do not think of getting any support by directly contacting ImagineSim with your issue... Greetings, Chris AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D, 2x32GB DDR5 6000MT/s RAM, MSI RTX 4090 Ventus 3X, Windows 11 Home, MSFS2024
September 9, 20196 yr I have no problems with this scenery. I've also had no problems with the other ImagineSim ones I use. They absolutely at the very least need to create a forum like the others companies do. 5800X3D, 4090FE, 64GB DDR4 3600C16, Gigabyte X570S MB, EVO 970 M.2's, Alienware 3821DW and 2 22" monitors, Corsair RM1000x PSU, 360MM MSI MEG, MFG Crosswind, T16000M Stick, Boeing TCA Yoke/Throttle, Skalarki MCDU and FCU, Logitech Radio Panel/Switch Panel, Spad.Next
September 9, 20196 yr I have to say that I've not an issue with this product yet. Follow the CTD guide here and let us know what kind of crash you're getting with which .dll Edited September 9, 20196 yr by Jude Bradley Jude BradleyBeech Baron: Uh, Tower, verify you want me to taxi in front of the 747?ATC: Yeah, it's OK. He's not hungry. X-Plane 12 and MSFS2020 🙂 System specs: Windows 11 Pro 64-bit, Ubuntu Linux 20.04 i7-13700KF Gigabyte Z790 RTX-4060-Ti , 32GB RAM 1X 2TB M2 for X-Plane 12, 1x256GB SSD for OS. 1TB drive MSFS2020
September 9, 20196 yr There seems to be a common thread that I’m seeing across PBR enabled airports: all of them have problems on arrival. FSDT KORD and ImagineSim WSSS and KATL all seem to have some combination of floating buildings, slow performance, and crashes. None of these issue seem seem to happen on departure. Only arrival. Jon Skiffington
September 9, 20196 yr You can add FlyTampa's CYUL (Montreal) to that list...it's a PBR-enabled airport, and I arrived yesterday to find all the terminal windows floating about 50 feet in the air. Bob Scott | President and CEO, AVSIM Inc ATP Gulfstream II-III-IV-V Sys1 (MSFS20+24/XPlane12+11): AMD 9800X3D, water 2x240mm, MSI MPG X670E Carbon, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, nVidia RTX4090FE Alienware AW3821DW 38" 21:9 GSync, 2x4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2x2TB Samsung 990 SSD, EVGA 1000P2 PSU, 12.9" iPad Pro Thrustmaster TCA Boeing Yoke, TCA Airbus Sidestick, Twin TCA Airbus Throttle quads, PFC Cirrus Pedals, Coolermaster HAF932 case Sys2 (P3Dv5/v4): i9-13900KS, water 2x360mm, ASUS Z790 Hero, 32GB GSkill 7800MHz CAS36, ASUS RTX4090 Samsung 55" JS8500 4K TV@60Hz, 3x 2TB WD SN850X 1x 4TB Crucial P3 M.2 NVME SSD, EVGA 1600T2 PSU Fiber link to Yamaha RX-V467 Home Theater Receiver, Polk/Klipsch 6" bookshelf speakers, Polk 12" subwoofer, 12.9" iPad Pro PFC yoke/throttle quad/pedals with custom Hall sensor retrofit, Thermaltake View 71 case, Stream Deck XL button box Sys3 (DCS/P3Dv4/ATS/ETS): AMD 7800X3D, MSI MPG X870E Carbon, Noctua NH-D15S, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, EVGA RTX3090 Alienware AW3420DW 34" 21:9 GSync, Corsair HX1000i PSU, 4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2TB Samsung 970Evo Plus, TM TCA Officer Pack, Saitek combat pedals, TM Warthog, TM RS300 FF wheel/pedals, Coolermaster HAF XB case
September 9, 20196 yr + Aerosoft Tenerife's both airports. OIiver's official suggestion was to turn PBR off. 9950X3D, X870E ROG CROSSHAIR HERO, Corsair Dominator Titanium 64GB DDR5-6000 PC5-48000, ASUS RTX 5070Ti 16GB, 9100 PRO 4TB Samsung ,990 PRO 4TB Samsung, AX1600i 1600 Watt 80 Plus Titanium ATX, ASUS 360 ARGB EXTREME 360mm Liquid CPU Cooling Kit.
September 9, 20196 yr 2 hours ago, w6kd said: You can add FlyTampa's CYUL (Montreal) to that list...it's a PBR-enabled airport, and I arrived yesterday to find all the terminal windows floating about 50 feet in the air. Which also happened to me at LatinVFR's SCEL a few weeks ago. Random parts of the building were up in the air, and the acrgo buildings were missing roofs entirely. Reloading at the airport caused the issues to disappear. It's unclear to me whether there is an issue with the way developers are implementing PBR, or whether there is a basic issue in the sim that LM will need to fix... Whatever it is, I hope it gets fixed in v4.6. Benjamin van Soldt Windows 10 64bit - i5-8600k @ 4.7GHz - ASRock Fatality K6 Z370 - EVGA GTX1070 SC 8GB VRAM - 16GB Corsair Vengeance LPX @ 3200MHz - Samsung 960 Evo SSD M.2 NVMe 500GB - 2x Samsung 860 Evo SSD 1TB (P3Dv4/5 drive) - Seagate Barracuda 2TB 7200RPM - Seasonic FocusPlus Gold 750W - Noctua DH-15S - Fractal Design Focus G (White) Case
September 9, 20196 yr Commercial Member 3 hours ago, Skiff said: FSDT KORD and ImagineSim WSSS and KATL all seem to have some combination of floating buildings, slow performance, and crashes. About KORD - The floating buildings issue it's a confirmed bug of the sim that happens with PBR but, since it affects only sceneries in .BGL format, we released a workaround for it 2 days after release, which uses our usual Couatl/Simconnect handling for the affected object, so it's not affected anymore. Same for the missing lights on arrival. Both issues has been fixed. - The performance has been generally found to be very good and not worse of any comparable non-PBR scenery, provided recent hardware is used. - Nobody ever reported crashes arriving at KORD so far. Edited September 9, 20196 yr by virtuali Umberto Colapicchioni http://www.fsdreamteam.com FSDT on Facebook
September 9, 20196 yr 8 minutes ago, virtuali said: About KORD - The floating buildings issue it's a confirmed bug of the sim that happens with PBR but, since it affects only sceneries in .BGL format, we released a workaround for it 2 days after release, which uses our usual Couatl/Simconnect handling for the affected object, so it's not affected anymore. Same for the missing lights on arrival. Both issues has been fixed. - The performance has been generally found to be very good and not worse of any comparable non-PBR scenery, provided recent hardware is used. - Nobody ever reported crashes arriving at KORD so far. Thank you. Look like P3d team should be fixing the PBR bug....can't wait LM team to drop the latest and greatest update/release. Always impressed by you Virtuali - you are always on top of things. Edited September 9, 20196 yr by Skywolf How I Evaluate Third Party Sim Addon Developers Refined P3Dv5.0 HF2 Settings Part1 (has MaddogX) and older thread Part 2 (has PMDG 747)
September 9, 20196 yr Wow! I am preparing a new system build so that I can finally adopt P3D and I thought CTD's were done away with now! Ears now on high alert! Frank Patton Corsair 5000D Airflow Case; MSI B650 Tomahawk MOB; Ryzen 7 7800 X3D CPU; ASUS RTX 4080 Super; NZXT 360mm liquid cooler; Corsair Vengeance 64GB DDR5 4800 MHz RAM; RMX850X Gold PSU;; ASUS VG289 4K 27" Display; Honeycomb Alpha & Bravo, Crosswind 3's w/dampener. Former USAF meteorologist & ground weather school instructor. AOPA Member #07379126 "I will never put my name on a product that does not have in it the best that is in me." - John Deere
September 10, 20196 yr On 9/9/2019 at 5:12 PM, Skiff said: There seems to be a common thread that I’m seeing across PBR enabled airports: all of them have problems on arrival. FSDT KORD and ImagineSim WSSS and KATL all seem to have some combination of floating buildings, slow performance, and crashes. None of these issue seem seem to happen on departure. Only arrival. And cyyz.
September 10, 20196 yr 19 hours ago, fppilot said: Wow! I am preparing a new system build so that I can finally adopt P3D and I thought CTD's were done away with now! Ears now on high alert! Why?? It's still the same fsx engine. There is no magic bullet
September 18, 20196 yr Thanks for your comments. I finally switched off PBR via Imaginesims's opscenter. Then I tried a new flight from Drzewiecky's KORD to KATL. Everything went fine until I got near KATL. CTD again. So I switched all the options in the opscenter off. And restarted the saved flight from TOD. And again a CTD. Does the opscenter do its job? Following this I restarted another flight from TOD to CYYC. No problem. I hope that Imaginesim reads this forum and can give us an update. Chris Kuehne
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