11 minutes ago, Kilo60 said:

Funny but pointless argument!

Are you actually naive enough to think MS will only consider adding VR depending on how many pages this thread gets to...?  Lol!

Apparently so, and you are helping. Thanks a bunch

Just now, daveinca2000 said:

Apparently so, and you are helping. Thanks a bunch

Anytime 😉

Just now, Kilo60 said:

Anytime 😉

We actually make a good team. 😀

4 minutes ago, Kilo60 said:

ATC is not easy to implement and there is a reason why payware addons all have varying issues trying to improve on the default FSX AI!

It’s a great point..

I’d be just fine with MS/Asobo building the framework to support great third party add-ons to really make ATC shine.

It’s likely that a really in-depth and accurate ATC system is really high on the expenditure (time and money) scale and honestly may not be worth it for the first party to fully tackle.  

I could see a basic implementation from the first party with the pipes laid for 3rd party add-ons to really make it fly.

Edited October 3, 20196 yr by irrics

29 minutes ago, Kilo60 said:

I don’t get for the life of me why VR would be a priority over ATC in any realistic flight sim!

People want different things from their flight sim, simple as that.

I'll take the realism of feeling like I'm actually in an aircraft cockpit over ATC (of which I've yet to see a really great implementation in any sim).

And Santa wants his sleigh in MSFS in VR. LOL

36 minutes ago, daveinca2000 said:

Indeed. Thank you for playing.  I think you need to update your persuasion game.  Keep going.  I’m confident, at this rate we will hit 60 pages by the 10th

Which would achieve what exactly?

2 minutes ago, Casualcas said:

And Santa wants his sleigh in MSFS in VR. LOL

Santa is very tired of encouraging  Rudolph though a window.  What...what?

2 minutes ago, Superdelphinus said:

Which would achieve what exactly?

I’m willing  to find out.

Edited October 3, 20196 yr by daveinca2000

2 minutes ago, daveinca2000 said:

I’m willing  to find out.

I'm so lost? We still at it? Ok. I'm game.... why do you prioritize seasons? (Insert whaa noise here ___)  Philippines only has 2 seasons, hot and hotter!!!! Cause that's your choice, just like VR is our choice. We are allowed to have our opinion, just like you. So let it go

4 minutes ago, Casualcas said:

I'm so lost? We still at it? Ok. I'm game.... why do you prioritize seasons? (Insert whaa noise here ___)  Philippines only has 2 seasons, hot and hotter!!!! Cause that's your choice, just like VR is our choice. We are allowed to have our opinion, just like you. So let it go

Wrong guy. I think. Lol but I can take a stab at it. I personally want to use my plane as a toboggan. Wheeee.  I’m not kidding 

Edited October 3, 20196 yr by daveinca2000

1 hour ago, Kilo60 said:

Exactly why ATC and Seasons should be a priority over VR....

 

It benefits everyone first!!!

Do you now where the ATC and Season devs are with progress?

I dont speculate.  And everyone in here knows as much as the other. Just watch the insider home

1 hour ago, Kilo60 said:

Exactly why ATC and Seasons should be a priority over VR....

 

It benefits everyone first!!!

At the end of the day it is MS business decision.  They are in the business to make money not to "benefit" everyone.  So the priority of features like ATC, VR and Seasons will probably be determined based on the resources necessary and the expected return they could expect in market share as a result.  I would suspect ATC would probably be the least on the priority list just due to the admitted difficulty of it and the fact that there really isn't any real competition in that field (i.e. none of the other players really do a very good job of it now anyways).  Seasons is kind of a tricky one in that do you want to do it "right" or do you want to "fake" it with shaders etc.  Even the shaders solution might be tricky considering you are talking about a Global scale.  Of the three VR s probably the lowest hanging fruit with the biggest benefit.  Typically VR users are either all in or not interested based on if the title supports VR.  On the other hand, lack of seasons or good ATC at the onset is not likely to be a deal breaker for the 2D crowd.  Even if VR users only account for 10% that is still a decent amount of share and at the same time probably makes the younger crowd more interested (especially if MS starts marketing VR headsets to work with their new console coming out in 2020 I believe).  For what it is worth I would like to see all three included.

7 minutes ago, BrettT said:

Typically VR users are either all in or not interested based on if the title supports VR.

You just hit it on the head.

VR is a feature that, if one wants it, will keep many from even purchasing MSFS at all until it’s implemented.

For non VR people to understand this, imagine a scenario.

Suppose that MSFS wasn’t sure if “joysticks would be supported at launch”, just as an example.  

See what I mean?  You’d likely wait until they were because you’d have ZERO desire to try to fly with the keyboard or a mouse or something.

Once you are all in on VR - the interest in non-VR simming is essentially “none”.

Edited October 3, 20196 yr by irrics