55 minutes ago, JasonPC said:

There’s a huge thread of people having performance issues on the pmdg forum.

Can you post a link? Can't find this huge thread about performance issues. Thx.

29 minutes ago, carlito777 said:

Why? Maybe not all people have a 9900K@5GHz and a RTX2080ti like you and really care about performance. Hearing that it performs worse than the FSL A320 is a deal breaker for me and I would like to know this before wasting $100. Especially reports on relative performance compared to other add-ons are always usefull. Especially with weaker systems. My ancient machine for example cannot run the FSL A320 in a reasonable way. But the PMDG 777 and NGX perform nicely. So I would definitely like to know how the NGXu performs relative to other add-ons. Reports from people with beast machines like you have, are really pointless. Of course it runs well on that beast of a machine...

With total respect for your comment I offer the following thought:  you want to know if a higher performance computer is having problems or simply if the fps it's experience is significantly less than it should be. I'm one of those with a high performance machine (9900k, 2080 etc) and sometimes I am really surprised what  combination of scenery, weather, aircraft etc can drag down the fps. If we report this here it gives developers yet another piece of the puzzle.

 

29 minutes ago, carlito777 said:

Why? Maybe not all people have a 9900K@5GHz and a RTX2080ti like you and really care about performance. Hearing that it performs worse than the FSL A320 is a deal breaker for me and I would like to know this before wasting $100. Especially reports on relative performance compared to other add-ons are always usefull. Especially with weaker systems. My ancient machine for example cannot run the FSL A320 in a reasonable way. But the PMDG 777 and NGX perform nicely. So I would definitely like to know how the NGXu performs relative to other add-ons. Reports from people with beast machines like you have, are really pointless. Of course it runs well on that beast of a machine...

With total respect for your comment I offer the following thought:  you want to know if a higher performance computer is having problems or simply if the fps it's experience is significantly less than it should be. I'm one of those with a high performance machine (9900k, 2080 etc) and sometimes I am really surprised what  combination of scenery, weather, aircraft etc can drag down the fps. If we report this here it gives developers yet another piece of the puzzle.

 

Everyone that I have been in contact with regarding NGXu performance has noted very heavy hit. Even those who who initially said that there is no perceivable performance loss noted it once I asked them to compare one-to-one scenarios with other heaviest planes they got. If you are not on a very edge of acceptable performance and not actually monitoring this performance, then you might not realize how heavy this aircraft is. It just means that you have enough resources to spare not to notice it.

So please, prove me wrong. PMDG is in a habit of being in denial about their products.

Edited November 19, 20196 yr by Evros

2 hours ago, JasonPC said:

There’s a huge thread of people having performance issues on the pmdg forum. Many of them have very good hardware too. So I don’t know how you can draw that conclusion. I have the PMDG 747 which is arguably the next most recent and comparable product and I have no issues with that one whatsoever.

Again: Besides myself, I've seen a number of posts of people, even with mid level systems, who have reported it runs fine for them. This is really all I'm saying: how does it add up that some people have issues and others don't? That's how I draw my conclusion that it seems like there's more to it. Perhaps I'm completely wrong, but that's why I thought it would be prudent to wait before putting the label of a performance hog on the addon.

 

1 hour ago, carlito777 said:

Why? Maybe not all people have a 9900K@5GHz and a RTX2080ti like you and really care about performance. [...] Reports from people with beast machines like you have, are really pointless. Of course it runs well on that beast of a machine...

I have plenty of performance issues on my system, actually. ESP sims and tons of addons can quickly cause problems even on higher end systems. Reports from higher end systems aren't pointless just because one would assume it runs fine anyway, it's not as simple as that (at least not when it comes to flight simming).

 

1 hour ago, Evros said:

PMDG is in a habit of being in denial about their products.

As I said, PMDG have acknowledged the issue. According to their latest announcement, they are looking to improve performance with the next update. Hardly any denial in that.

Edited November 19, 20196 yr by threegreen

I also have read quite a number of posts over @PMDG that have complained that the latest update has caused a drastic loss in performance and FPS compared to before the update.

 

I am another user very interested in the performance of the NGXu as my system struggles with complex add on ac, at many 3rd party airports, even with everything turned down to minimal and tweaked for performance...

 

I agree completely that a general statement of how well does it perform means little as there’s a huge variety of systems and hardware people are running and an unlimited combination of other P3D 3rd party add ons running in the background!

 

A performance comparison of the NGXu and Flight One Citation X would really help me decide if I can run the NGXu acceptably for my particular system as the Citation  X is the absolute minimum of what I can run!

 

 

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Edited November 19, 20196 yr by Kilo60

2 hours ago, Evros said:

Everyone that I have been in contact with regarding NGXu performance has noted very heavy hit. Even those who who initially said that there is no perceivable performance loss noted it once I asked them to compare one-to-one scenarios with other heaviest planes they got. If you are not on a very edge of acceptable performance and not actually monitoring this performance, then you might not realize how heavy this aircraft is. It just means that you have enough resources to spare not to notice it.

So please, prove me wrong. PMDG is in a habit of being in denial about their products.

Zero impact on frame rate for me, compared to previous PMDG products, ZERO.
I am monitoring CPU load and temps + GPU temperature flying the NGXu from day 1 and never had any issue with performance.

19 minutes ago, David Roch said:

Zero impact on frame rate for me, compared to previous PMDG products, ZERO.
I am monitoring CPU load and temps + GPU temperature flying the NGXu from day 1 and never had any issue with performance.

You are running a top notch system, David. That leaves you with more headroom than most. Maybe your settings are more lax or you're using less AI, less heavy 3rd party scenery etc.

In a vanilla sim, one would probably not notice the performance hit but since the ngxu consumes such a big chunk of the gpu cycles it wouldn't take much for it to reach its max. A bit of DL, clouds and scenery and you'll see the frames take a deep plunge. Of course people with a 1060 or 1070 will see this much sooner than those with a 2080Ti...

Oh no, I have over 3 Tb of scenes installed including ORBX stuff, + AS, REX, TS shaders, AIG traffic, EZCA, FS Tramp and other progs running and P3D settings are high.

FS Labs Bus is more demanding, although more complex.

2 hours ago, David Roch said:

Zero impact on frame rate for me, compared to previous PMDG products, ZERO.
I am monitoring CPU load and temps + GPU temperature flying the NGXu from day 1 and never had any issue with performance.

 

6 minutes ago, David Roch said:

Oh no, I have over 3 Tb of scenes installed including ORBX stuff, + AS, REX, TS shaders, AIG traffic, EZCA, FS Tramp and other progs running and P3D settings are high.

FS Labs Bus is more demanding, although more complex.

I see the same  ,  have very similar system and monitor setup

@David Roch @westman Could you share your simulator settings?

I ran the NGXu on an I-2500k with an 8 year old system. It ran the same as the NGX and the 744 from PMDG.  16GB and GTX 1060 6 GB. 
 

So it should run fine for almost everyone who use P3D

 

1 hour ago, diajohn said:

I ran the NGXu on an I-2500k with an 8 year old system. It ran the same as the NGX and the 744 from PMDG.  16GB and GTX 1060 6 GB. 
 

So it should run fine for almost everyone who use P3D

 

Yes, It should. That is why a lot of us are asking PMDG for assistance. It doesn't in all cases.

v9961 is out with proposed performance fixes. Hopefully it will deliver as promised. I don't have time to validate for another week or so, but I'm sure we will have feedback here in no time. It would also be interesting to see if there are any performance gains for people who didn't have any issues in the first place.

Edited November 20, 20196 yr by Evros

Question for those NOT experiencing performance issues. Did you uninstall the NGX when you installed the NGXu? 

I have both installed.